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Tested the server July 19th Well It was a bit glitchy when some one got shot down or some one entered the mission. Frame rates for me were 68 to 30

Ill buy the walker for ya! :music_whistling:Ice How Old?:drink::drunk::hehe::beer::cheer3nc::clown_2::juggle::yay::clap_2::clap_2::worthy::yay::yay::juggle::clown_2::clown_2::prop::blow::santa::harhar::cheer3nc::beer:

Nice! But theres one big mistake you made. All of the fighters Mig 29, Su 33, Su 27 all show "29" on TEWS Thats because in real life F-15s, and A-10 TEWS can not tell the difference between the different radars :thumbup:

This is getting old Oh my god, wow, I mean come on. Im sure some people already modify the codes and if its true get a grip and retire your virtual rubish. :megalol:

nice no whining if they fix the f-15 and the 120s. it will take 1 120 insted of 4, just like it was. :smartass:

Wow Nice! ;)

Hi Mr Goya! Well I have said this many times, if they dont "keep up with the Jonses" LOMAC will be a thing of the past. In reality there is a huge market in flight simulation and accesories. Some players are very tired of "biast" program modifications and will jump ship to an "Un-biast" filght simulation softwear. I have been playing LOMAC for about 2 years now and I have learned alot from many good pilots. I was very disapointed with some of the "new" modifications released in Flaming Cliffs. LOMAC is the only P.C. game that I play and I do love the chalenges, problem solving, and friendships created by our comunity. But as many of us have stated we realy need "ED" to live up to our concerns. Some of us have spent alot of $$$$$$$$$$ and time on this game and we all work hard to pay bills, buy food, put gas in our cars, make house payments, buy beer, and keep our wives and girlfriends off our backs when we are "Merged" So lets hope for the best like when we were kids waiting for Santa or Honica, Ramadan, ect. So on that note S! To S77, 169th, RVE, TAF, 3sqd, RAF, 504, Pilotasso, Ice, MOMO, GOYA, Cali, YODA, FUDD, REO, MoGas, Mikei, Lt-Bratschnik, Paploo, l()csta, General lee, and every one else I forgot. Lets pretend im at a resturant. Waitress says "what can I get for you on the menue, sir?" Cool t replies "Daaaerrrrrr I'll take the KA-50 with all of the fixes please" :pilotfly::joystick::thumbup::music_whistling: :smartass:

hehe So does this mean we r getting IFF for ECM? Cant tell you how many times I call out "Blue ECM IFF" amd you get no reply. The Tech stuff is very interisting and the research is nice. :thumbup:

Well Hi there, Well forinstance, I was in 169th server the other day and there were at least 6 bandits infront of me. I was tracking 3 of the "opertunity" targets and well sad to say killed one. Now b 4 Flaming cliffs I can remember killing 5 bandits with out diverging from my altitude and hedding. You must remember all of the factors involved, you can fill in the blanks according to your own experiences. Practice with AI on different settings. also set missile effectiveness. Remember with a pilots known information about his jet and the condition of his oponant use opertunity and deception to luer him in for the kill. :joystick:

hehehe! Nice, fix the 120! So I can effectively kill 5 bandits at once like I usto before Flaming Cliffs. :thumbup:

ahhhhhhhhh ya same problem whats going on, some one hijack ED? :lol:

LOL guys Come on it would be just alittle bit more iceing on the cake. Shock wave, please! :helpsmilie:

Hey, all hi!! Can some one please program the shock wave "Visual" Mach +1 +2 ect. :pilotfly:

F-14 AI Ice I was shot down by an F-14 with its AIM9. Strange, I guess the F-14 pilot was new. ;) No problems with server runs great. :book:

Reaching out So how do we grab all of the "could be pilots" that want to upgrade? Should I sit outside Wallmart with my G-suit on and hand out flyers? One thing for sure, when new guys are on Hyper loby BE NICE TO THEM! :pilotfly:

HBDAY :thumbup::music_whistling::joystick:

Yaaaaa Yaaaa Ice is on track, we need more "Active" people. AND Like Ive said B 4. They, ED needs to take the offencive and JUST RELEASE BLACK SHARK with all of the OBVIOUS UPGRADING. You know its funny alot of you guys are really inteligent and know a good amount of De-classified information about fighter jet stuff,so why do I feel offended and insulted when I need to call out "BLUE TEAM ECM OFF" so I can IFF. Some of us are, and I will speak for 98% of you,:mad: hate having our intelectual and cognative reasoning skills insulted every time we hit hyperloby. ITS GETTING OLD RELEASE THE BLOODY GAME WITH THE THE :mad:CORRECT "KNOWN" MODELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 REPUTATION Come on guys wheres the S!

Your missing the point Your a good pilot, but your missing the point. If one shoots all of there missiles in 3 to 4 seconds thats just bad tactics. Think about it at the point of release the bandits just needs to avoid the kill zone from the release point. So SPAMing is actualy pointless and better for the oponant becase if lets say I "SPAM" all of my 120s at 20nm and you get out of the way, im winchester and you got some fire power left in you. Its just the fact that 3 or 4 seconds seems like a life time in Air Combat, right? I have seen some of the "Best" pilots "Spam" missiles and in no shape or form do I consider it rude or do I "Pee my pants" My flight procedures are proven effective but not perfict by any way shape or form. I feel that once a pilot realises that hes not the "Top Gun" he wont just go for the kill but place him self in a posistion of advantage and will live to fly another day. :joystick:

Well now F-15 tactics. 1. Learn the radar. 2. Learn Basic fighter Manuvers. 3. Learn to assume. 4. Use TWS and kill 3 bandits in one engagement. 5. After a 120 hits a mig finish him off with the cannon. As far as all of LOMACS missiles befor Flaming Clifs I had no problem killing 3 or 4 bandits in TWS at 20 nautical miles. With the known forum data and leaking of information the 120s effectivness has been cut to the point of %50. So now in Flaming Cliffs programing one must use 3 to 4 120s to splash one Bandit. I have been called "SPAM T" by some one and it just reinforces the 120s discrimination in LOMAC programing. My reply to the oponant was "Take it up with ED!" people complained when the 120 was modled some what good and now they complain that us EAGLE DRIVERS shoot to many 120s. Its like saying that when im behind a mig you only get one bullet to hit your oponant; get real. What ever the programers were thinking the discrimination of the 120 has hurt some people and forced the to fly migs. From my personal experience I still love the way my 120s leave a vapor trail just befor impacting a SU33 or a overpowerd Mig 29. As far as the IR-ets, ect. dump flares and they will miss, especialy at longer ranges. With all known info on the jets and missiles in LOMAC the Migs should be WAXING us EAGLE DRIVERS 12 to 1 with no exceptions! I have encountered many good pilots and we all have spent alot of time and money on this game. Our comunity is growing and becoming an Icon in the flight Sim world. So lets hope for the best in Black Shark and pray that Flight Sim competitors dont "Out program" LOMAC and make it a thing of the past. See you in your G suit. :pilotfly:

Where do I sign up? I would like to be a part of Red Flag II please. :joystick:

Where do I sign up? Do I need to join a squad? Or can I just chose a side with some buds I have flown with on previous missions in Hyperloby? :joystick:

Right In the situation I gave you the mig does not do a split S. All I am trying to say is that at what ever the altitude, speed, of the fighter jet and at the point of relase of a missile (cumilative speeds) Jet speed + missile speed = ? Jet speed + missile speed + incomming bandit (That does not move)=closure rate No more no less. Just the simple fact that in LOMAC high speed interceptors can not perform there missions. Now when I think about it, in 169th I some times will go for the a-50 and I will be with in 20nm at point of fox 3. My speeds in the F-15 are at Mach 1.8(40k) + Aim 120 speed + closure rate of A-50. I will stay locked untill active signature on the 120, ecm, chaff, ect, then fox 3 at 15nm. Now granted the A-50 BMF's to avoid the 120 but now that I have done more mission editing, I and many other people have concluded the underperformance of the Aim 120. Now the next question is are all missiles in LOMAC undermodled? Ok please read the info in this link. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/research/Phoenix/phoenixmissile.html http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/aim-120.htm Thanks for your time, Torrey

D-scythe Rgr, S! Ok, lets just pretend that an F-15 and Mig 29 are head on at 40,000ft and the F-15 shoots an Aim 120 a unknown range. F-15 Mach 1.7 + Aim 120 Mach 3.5 = Mach 5.2 Now this, ( F-15 Mach 1.7 + Aim 120 Mach 3.5 )+( Mig 29 Mach 1.4) = 6.6 Mach So if we do the math at 10nm 20nm 30nm 40nm we should get some relitive closure rates and time to impact. Obviously the 120s motor will run out but we get the idea of closure rates.

Ok now we are getting some where I think that they will fix the "obvious" issues with the missiles. I realy love this game and to tell you the truth with some of the new sims that will be comming out soon, ED will have no choice but to fix "obvious" issues or LOMAC will Die in 5 years. perhaps thats why it is taking so long for the release of "Black Shark" So back to the Question. I was on Turkish Airforces server and I did some variable attacks, low speed/low alt- high speed/ high alt and the conclution is simple as it was stated by many people; undermodeled missiles from the launch platform. At 45,000ft Mach 1.7 the Aim 120 barly reaches 8 miles from my F-15 when it slows down. In the upper Troposphere drag and frictonal compression is weak at best, but the aerodynamics of the Aim 120 react like it is pushing through mudd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That defeats the whole purpose of a high speed interceptor. I wish that ED and/or WAGS would be a bit more attentive to our questions and concerns. For we buy the game and hope for the best realisim and we know that all they need to do is fix a few lines in the programming. They could give us most of our "realistic" fixes in a 40 hour work time frame including breaks for lunch. Its not that hard to fix the program and by god the 120s in 1.1 were like 10 trillion times more effective than in FC. (reguarless of player skill) Sorry guys im just a bit frustrated due to the fact that when I see a formation of 3 migs 20 miles away(With a HUGE closure rate) from me and Im going Mach 1.7 there is a good chance that after the Migs get the launch warning they have plenty of time to move out of the way. :mad:

Well I guess? One thing I know fore sure, with the recent additional awareness of many pilots being able to (BFM) "Basic Fighter Manuvers" threading the neddle becomes a bit more "edgey". and unpredictable. I also have noticed that with speed and higher altitude the "window" opens a bit. :thumbup: