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Nothing to do with what I want.. just trying to find an answer or a way. And I don't wonder anything it's just my thought.. Checking what other teams do for their development it's quite important mostly while in the same Sim. But by the holly sausage from space...who am i to say or even to just think about it.. :) .

And yes this is the MiG-21 external view . Hope for the fix :)

I wonder if the " Mi-8MTV2" is suffering from the same and could be tweak for a much better result. I hope that the Devs can have a good communication for the benefit of all .

true but lets see what the " Leatherneck Simulations" team do and trying to fix this.. the result start to be fantastic this should require for other 3D models and developers to do the same, having a SIm that is good in FPS will change the quantity of people wanting to fly it and in a very positive way.. a little bit of extra effort toward what "LN" are doing would change the whole sim for the best.

" The sim feels so different it is incredible." yes it does this why i was trying to say .. FPS will change the way you fly really and respond Still need a tester ?

I feel like this portion of the forum has been forgotten.. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2181598#post2181598 Thank you :)

This fix did a lot of good I wonder if you guys could do the same for this great low fps Mi-8MTV2, please check their fix and maybe adopt it for your craft as well .. this is problematic.. Thanks greatly many more people would fly it more if it could have better FPS. Ok with the fix I have now way up FPS and probably as good as inside the Su-25T which is good monitor has Vsynch so I'm locked at 60 FPS. So the MiG-21 come to be the worse in FPS to one of the best in Frame rate .. I'm happy so far.. at list for the 4 minutes i spend this morning first light up before work.

Ok with the fix I have now way up FPS and probably as good as inside the Su-25T which is good monitor has Vsynch so I'm locked at 60 FPS. So the MiG-21 come to be the worse in FPS to one of the best in Frame rate .. I'm happy so far.. at list for the 4 minutes i spend this morning first light up before work. Now the other part that is very very important is to fix the FFB ( not working ) buzz ON that can probably damage our FFB beloved Joysticks.. is there a files that I can tweak or test ? Thank you greatly for this fix again.. and again Worse to best overnight !! :) Great job

The FFB of the Sabre has constant forces no shakes or different forces. This was broken from last update and not been fixed yet. FFB of the F-86F Sabre and MiG-21 are missing or completely corrupted. Can we ask about the status of this fix ? Thank you greatly,

Now thinking about it .. This FPS problem is hugely important .. The FPS should be optimized at maximum for a best smooth experience .. This is very important for the up coming new Terrain that will change many things .. if the plane graphics produce low FPS it will kill the work done by terrain graphics 3D textures team's efforts. So everything should fit together to aim for the best FPS smooth flight possible. No body want to fly on a sluggish aircraft that kill the flight combat sim experience due to low FPS.. ( and Vise Versa ) Thank you for "Listening"

There is this discussion about how low FPS the MiG-21 get and the devs are looking for the problem and found some.. I was wondering if your model probably suffer from the same 3D problems.? Too low fps.. would you be interested on looking out to as well optimized or really make sure there are no 3D/Textures problem ? We've found a serious flaw in the visibility flags on the external model when in cockpit view. This is one of several things we've identified that are causing poor performance. Yes; we accidentally didn't merge the proper LoD files into our repository build. Thus the even lower LoDs are very high in terms of polycount. etc.. Thank you greatly

Well since it has big issue with the FFB and stick forces been always on ON and buzzing I wont be able to get in the plane and fly.. waiting for fix or it will blow my FFB rare Joystick.. I'm wondereing if the other dev checked their garphics as well. "We've found a serious flaw in the visibility flags on the external model when in cockpit view. This is one of several things we've identified that are causing poor performance."

True I was going to write this as well :) LOL The Mi-8MTV2 have low fps as well. >>> lots of buttons, gauges

New patch on other craft run very smooth! :)

@Cobra847 This is fantastic and a great act of a developer. +1000 ;)

@Art-J.. Gozr - probably because only minority of folks have FFB sticks? Notice that most (if not all) youtube previewers used Warthogs or similar gear. Keeping modern software compatible with the old Microsoft FFB (no matter how good it is) is going to be a problem. Ok here a very good example. DCS is aiming to be complex and great simulation. I know people that had Cougar's, warthogs and what do they have today ? well they keep their great throttles and use a FFB M$ or G940 etc,. if you want the most fidelity with an virtual aircraft you should invest into good gears that can simulate more or less some forces since those forces are very important on an aircraft in RL. and .. DCS should never alienate FFB's and more sophisticated hardware. You always do the best to cover all . I hope I make some sens.

This post is not made to hurt feelings but just a serious matter and criticism to obtain a better product to our actual hardware. I'm not here to rub no body's back but tell how it is in our end. While testing beta or Alpha the tester should be frank to every angles to have the best performances on programs and graphics optimization. We all know how difficult and time consuming and beauty this aircraft is. no doubt I cannot give any flight model input or review with this low fps that can affect the aircraft negatively unless lowering all graphics to a minimum like on the tests reviews we all saw online from beta testers or reviewers. lacking to tell about low fps make me doubt. If someone give me an aircraft to test I'll tell how it is directly for the best results with the appropriate settings etc. In the other hands i'm very excited by the MiG-21 and the up coming MiG-15 which i have experience with and hopefully this will be optimize soon.

SkateZilla, " So a Small FPS Decrease " Are you serious to call this a small hit ? it's important to optimize and not letting it pass. no this is a serious problem and it should of been seriously taken in consideration.. this remind me of the first Lockon no one could run it .. it took 10 years to do so basically and we shouldn't wait that long again. i am rough about this but this is serious if we ALL want to enjoy the flight sim and to have new comers. The MiG-21 is very well done and a great work but now ot's the optimization that should be adressed

Now thinking of this why no FFB problem reported in Alpha/beta before? as flying in RL I can tell with out any doubt and reservation FFB is the only good way . you can get any ultra expensive sticks but it wont cut out. invest in FFB. ;) So a fix should come quickly thanks to LN... hopefully

Well wao!! hummmmmm doubt FFB ? joystic doing a buzz sound when activated.. and stay activated after DCS off. ( can cause damage ? ) ? .. Hope a serious boost with EDGE.. unflyable atm.. ( shouldn't be due to 3D polygons count, modern days GPU should eat this right up maybe a dx9 problem ? but maybe by gauges quantity to compute ? ) -Polygons/computing optimization solution? Horrible FPS ( Only for the MiG21 cockpit view and external directed toward 3D model ) Why double set keys ? FFB ON/OFF in DCS interface and in MiG21 controls ? I barely touch it .. I'm sure there are more but i prefer waiting for a LN's solution on the FFB enigmatic problem to ovoid more trouble. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=130353 BTW getting + 80 fps regularly and below 20 fps in MiG-21 ...

Thx derelor

MiG-21 FFB ? Well wao!! hummmmmm doubt FFB ? joystic doing a buzz sound when activated.. and stay activated after DCS off. ( can cause damage ? ) ? .. Hope a serious boost with EDGE.. unflyable atm.. ( should be due to 3D polygons count but maybe by gauges quantity to compute ? ) -Polygons/computing optimization solution? Horrible FPS ( Only for the MiG21 cockpit view and external directed toward 3D model ) Why double set keys ? FFB ON/OFF in DCS interface and in MiG21 controls ? I barely touch it .. I'm sure there are more but i prefer waiting for a LN's solution on the FFB enigmatic problem to ovoid more trouble.

Out Wooo! Ok Thanks !!!

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Tomorrow big test for all.. :)