Thanks for the response, not suggesting anyone get banned! :) Just thinking out loud, my prob is sometimes with Viggen and Mig 21, and yes can get up close enough for pos ID, but after a recent near miss have become paranoid! Can see that there might be only a marginal benefit in grey vs camo for instance, but not sure there would be any downside to having it this way...Either way missions are great, for me the best place to fly F-5