borchi_2b

hi folks, last night i figured that 3d max 8 does not work properly anymore. next week i want to reinstall windows, so sorry for not having the blackbird in lomac allready. i have to apologise for all the time the blackbird needs, sorry well in the meantime i have started yesterday a new project. somebody told me that the walmis f-15c files were lost some time ago and that there is no update on the model available anymore. ok, that was the time i thought, make your own then ;-) so this is what i ended up last night after a few hours of playing with the prog: 4 pictures, diffrent stages can you recognise which plane that will be some day , lol well my effort to this project is, to get a new , high detailed, but playable F-15c the model is going to be designed like the newest flying f-15c, so do not be surprised when there might be tiny changes in the model in reference to the one all know. the F-15c that is the reference for my model is the f-15c 86-0159, stationed at the RAF Lakenheath USAFE ok, guys, hope you like what you see there so far. greetz borchi_2b p.s: we will also get a new pilot, for sure with some cool animations but this time i will not say zo anybody what kind of animations, cause some people used an idea i had a few month ago. lol

well here are some pictures of the complete wraped modell. hope yo like what you see sofar. unfortunatly i have to reinsatll my windows at my home pc, do to many problems, also with 3d max 8, therefor it takes a few more days till i can put that sucker into lomac for the first time. meanwhile i have started a new project :-) how i promised greetings borchi_2b p.s: here a little closeup of the gear

hi folks, some of you guys might have thought that this project is dead now well here is a update from the blackbird project. the complete uvwrapping is done now. i wanted to export the file to 3d max 8 today but 3d max 8 has quit on me, i do not know why yet. next week i will do a complete newsetting of my system so guys please have some patience till i will post new pictures of the bird. i hope i can post the first pictures of the lockon blackbird then, but still without skin or animations, that will follow then, when everything looks good in the next few weeks. i really want to get this bird done so that i can start with my f-15c p.s.: all together i have now 86 uwmaps and 86 bitmaps thanks borchi_2b

i am happy with my cougar, no trouble at all so far. nice is, everything is made of metal, sometimes a bit cold but cvery coool ;-)

air to air scoring should be done like this: crash to kill and it should be devided by by plane, cause it is a grater challenge to kill somebody with the su27 then to kill somebody with the mig or f-15 cause they are fearly easy to fly and fight with. thats why i think we should devide the scoring into the specific planetypes so we could figure to find out who are the best pilots of each typ of plane sounds cool and fair to me at least the reason for the crash to kill stats is, that i could kill 100 planes in 1 hour but got killed 200 times so that would not be taken into account when you search for the best pilot and bvr or dogfight is not just about killing it is about surviving and flying tactical

Hey folks, thankns to yeniceri, who is producing the new a-10 at the moment, the BLACKBIRD will not die :-) here the newest picture of the wrapping. only the canopy, the gear, the left engine plus left wing and the 2 pilot need to be doen with wrapping. then day one of tests will start what does it look like in lockon, :-) i was locking forward to this day for 4 month and now it is coming, cheers to yeniceri this picture is for you man :-) borchi_2b (boom boom)

hi guys i have huge problem, i want to make the unwrapping of the blackbird and well there is some trouble. everytime i try to unwrap there are alot of lines crossing through the next popup window and when i switch to the 3d view i see this picture can somebody help? what is the problem with that, i turn crasy and i am close to quit on that problem please please, help is needed and it is very important that i get this fixed otherwise i do not know if the blackbird will be realised some day shit greeting borchi_2b

force feedback, he he just tries something, there is no reason to kick out that way. maybe he knows something about the su27 you do not know, could be or? !

that would be very kind

ahh, nearly forgot something, does the graph prove anything about the structure of the plane at mch 2.5? no, and it does not tell you, what you learn in fighterschool. it is not recommended to go up to mach 2.5 cause the airframe will sevear structural damage caused by the high temp and the weaknes of some parts of the plane. quote from GGtharos: It's pretty interesting how big a difference temperature makes - but in any case I'd expect a real pilot to know this graph and say 'yeah, you could reach it under such and such circumstances' ... don't you think? and GGtharos, i did not say that it could never reach that speed of mach 2.5 just read over all my posts and you will read that i said, that it can only reach that speed in a dive ok lets just drop that now, cause it gets childish to argue who is right or wrong lets keep it the way it is and not accuse people of anything, thats how i want to betreated and you guys to, so a little appologie should not be to hard or is that to much i ask for?

ok, guys, what is a trim of 102%, do you know? i do, and it is not very common that the eagles fly with that setup. maybe in areal theater, cause the engine runtime till it is done for good is about 2 to 3 weeks. but well i do not want to argue, but i would just like to remind you that such perfect sircumstances never really exist, cause air pressure and tempratures can change very fast at each diffrent altitude. so when you take a close lock at the left graph you will see that at no point the max is greater then mach 2.3 when you stay at levelfilght at the right graph in levelflight with max thrust the f-15c can only get to mach 2.31 to 2.32 at a flightlevel of 38000 feet, so what has that graph proven. it has proven that my informations are not wrong and well maybe i do have first hand sources, but well i do not care if the people who said i am bullshitting will trust me or not, cause i know better and do not have to deal with such additutes like you guys. by the way, my question i asked a few posts ago was not answered why? cause you guys think you are so good and unbeatable in your arguments and do not want to answer to a question you cannot know unless you have first hand informations, lol, you guys are so wrong with your additutes, nothing else. here again my question for our professionals: how many f-15c in europe are in flyingduty right now, or lets put it a higher level, how many are allowed to fly? when you can answer that then you maybe know what firsthand source means, and sorry but never discredit me again, that not a behavior an ed tester should show, just my opinion i only agree with GGtharos in one point: that the eagle is weak in lock on, when you want to refer to the performance of the bird. have you ever tried to fly at 40000 with full armament and 1 or 2 externals? the f-15c in real life is able to keep its speed steady at about mach 0.9 plus minus a bit in regards to weatherconditions, but in lockon, the speed at full power without burners, it slows down all the time. ok, but i am sick of proving anything to you guys and talk about things that do not have to do anything with maddoging. we could start a threat where everything deals only about the f-15c, so that it makes sence again

i guess the grafic that goya posted says enough, just have a carefull lock at it and understand whats written or shown there ;-) then you maybe get a sence of what i said and somebody else told me from first hand. ok, i guess we are thrugh with that part and credebility is not just about simpathys in this form, it is about knowledge

ohh the prof are talking, lol it is not recommended to fly that speed and no pilot would do, cause it does damage to the plane. data is something that has to be seen at 2 sides, but you probably know that, and hey GGtharon, change your additute and tone, you are getting more and more respectless. do you want to have the tel number of my cousin and talk to him yourself or are you just jealous? what does the max performance has to do with maddoging, thats what i do question right now but guys just stick to the data instead of facts given by somebody who has a first hand source it is way to childish to argue with you guys about what the eagle is able to perform or not. if you are that smart then tell me how many eagles are flying right now? now i am intersted how good your are informed and how good yozr sources are, lol

@GGtharos: have you ever flown an Eagle? for sure not, otherwise you would not write such stupied thing. first, mach 2.5 do you know how much airpressure exist up there? my cousin was at 41000 feet over the atlantic. his jet the 86-0159 is known in europe to have the best engines overseas which are available for the f-15c, and he only managed mach 2.3, point. it is not possible to go faster then that without sevearly damaging the frame cause of heat and drag there is no point to it to convince me from something other cause i do know

@ crasy eyes: you can get closer, you only have to understand the ET and also the way how to fight in a su or mig, then you will get closer, and believe me, i also outturned the ET many times, and i do fly mainly the eagle in lockon, even in my suad, but i do have leader who flies only russians, so i had to learn to addapt to the su27 very quickly. now since i understand the way how to fight with the su or the mig fully, i know that i do have to think about flares when i am at a certain range to a russian fighter. the et only hits me when i forget about the flares cause the fight is to hot, but at other times, we my lead and i tested alot with the et and the su, passed on that knowledge to our squad, and we do not kill with the et at 25 to 30 km anymore, you know why? cause they learned to handle the problem 8-7 miles can be to close when you fight against an experianced pilot. when to good pilots fight against each other, the know that they would never get close to visual range or dogfight

that is allright is think ;-) i myself know that it is porked and we had several discussions in our virtual squad about it, and people asked me to talk to my cousin. hehe, i did, but i was not allowed to pass the informations on to third party. so it does not help te community, but well, what you say about the sparrow is true in some point. the bandit, esspecialy the russian fighters cannot predict, when they have to pull a f-pole, and in high alt. it has more range then the amraam. but for many pilots it is hard to use the missiles, cause they have to fight in a diffrent way, it is not just fire and turn, lol the only thing i figured is, that when you use the sparrow or 27er against ki, it is way harder to hit them, they seem to know where the missile is, and do the exact right all the times @frost1e: nice post. finaly here spoke sombody who is a person who really understood BVR thanks, that keeps my hopes up :-) and we are both at the same point, the amraam is powerfull enough in this game, it is all about the pilots, what it will allways be, even when in the future the comps will fly the fighter, still somebody is watching them or stearing them from some far of bunker and has to perform my opinion is, that people who complain about the amraam, are people who never really flew against experianced pilots cause they do not whine about the missiles, they accept the facts given and work with them

@haj: who tells you that the listed facts are the real once, i guess that the r-77 is capable of more than 80km, but thats not the question. we as non real fighter pilots , other then the guys who know people of thier trust :-), will never get the information about the real effective range of the missiles that are used in modern combat airplanes today. i can only say that it allways depends on the azimuth and so on, bla bla, like we did talk about the last couple pages, but in good circumstances the amraam can be fired at about 100miles, at least the newest version. when you want to know how far they can go, ask raytheon in a mail or go the flightshows and talk to them, maybe they tell you something, but they will not give you the exact datas, cause the industrie sell products and what they tell you is thier wish how the missile or plane should perform, but reality has proven that most of the times things perform worse then the industrie tell us. little example, the f-15c is supposed to fly mach 2.5, thats what the industrie tells us, but in real life, it would only achiev that from a hgh altitude dive with full burners and max out the structural performance. i a straight lefevl max power flight in high alt. the eagle has a real max of mach 2.3 not more or less cause the drag that causes the plane to hold at a certain speed is way to big for the thrust the engines can provide max. that is the rule for all milplanes in general, that they performe just a little worse then the industrie tells us @crasy eyes: well even when the amraam is porked, you have to deal with it and that makes the diffrence to me between a good or a bad pilot, is the person able to addapt the facts or not? is he able to work with the stuff he gets? i real life some pilots which they could allready shot a bandit down at 200miles, but that does not work so they have to deal with it. even when the amraam ould be better in the game, not much would change for good pilots, cause all only happens just a little bit earlier, or they know that they cannot go into the bandit that deep anymore, but thats all, believe me. and when a pilot is not able to kill with a weakend missile, he will not have so much advantage out of a slight better one. when you are able to handle a bad thing, you are even better to handle a good thing

just one thing to all. i have the feeling, that many of you guys think, that you only have dump asses you fly against. did anybody of you ever think of the facts why a missile does not hit the target? it is not only about the missile envelope and the performance. the biggest factor of a fight is allways the pilot, that implies you and the guys at the other side. i could upload 2 tackview for you guys to show you how things can go wrong and how they can go right if you want, and the guys who flew are not beginners at all, they are guys of my virtual squad and fly for many many hours and years now in the tackviews you can really good see missiles performances what normaly a real amraam would never do unless it is guided by the planes radar. but my actual point is, that good pilots make good decisions and know what they do and talk about in a fight and also in normal flight. i bet , that when you guys start spaming (maddoging) the missiles in a 1vs1 against me, that in the end you will have no missiles left to engage me but i promise, that i have at least 4 to 3 left plus the 2 aim9, which makes me in the end the more leathel fighter. ahh, the fight would be without refueling and without rearming, before somebody very intelligent writes, "ok, then i will land and come back up with full arm". the point is, to analyse the situation, make a choice, and in the case that i see the bandit move out at a certain distance, i can predict, that a active missile is allready on the way, and cause of TWS you will not know right away if i shot or not, so you cannot predict how many missiles i have left, so therefor i have two possibilities to go out of the BVR everytime, shot one support and turn, or just turn and pull your missiles out of thier effective envelope and kepp my own on my rails and wait for a good point where i can fire my own missiles but normally i only fire 1 or 2 missiles cause when the first is fired at max range and has not hit when the distance to the bandit is about half i can assume that it has not hit and it is time for the 2nd missile which is closer to the bandit and has more energie to move so point is, to decide how you go into the first BVR, cause that is vital for your futher fighting. you go in agressive, you have to saty in a certain way in the fight no matter what comes. you go into the fight defensive, you first attempt is to pull so many missiles out as it is possible, cause that weakens the bandit alot and will change the balance of the fight. you will end up as the more leathel, how i allready described cause you have in the end more missiles. but it is allways, and can only repeat that 1000 times, to make decisions and to predict the fight in every little moment, like in chest, and keep the balance of the fight at some point that is favoured from you. when the balance for example in a 2 vs 1 is favoured in the beginning for the 2 bandits, then you have to weaken them right away, to bring the balance to your advantage like pulling thier missiles out, cause they will have the advantage to make you move devensive just by having more missiles they can use thats what you have to compensate ok, i could keep on going for hour like this and tell you things what they tell you in fighterschool, but that is something i do not need i guess, cause here are so many professionals ;-) greetz borchi_2b

@GGtharos: ok, first sorry for talking d to you about your status of beeing an ed tester. bur one little thing, the bird my cousin flew till feb tis year was the 86-0159 which oe out of 3 f-15c of the 493rd thats has a official mig kill over serbia. his rank is LtCol, maybe Col now, have not talked to him for a few month , cause he moved, and he is really busy but believe me after 23 years of flying and also instructing and testflying he knows what he talks about you might call me a liar, but that does not interest me cause i know that i am ot what you accuse me to be ahh by the way, i will not write his name as prove, cause that is something the militry does not want, cause they want to save thier personal, what i can understand and in addition it will not make any diffrence to this topic @kuky: yes get your point cause it is based on real facts ad it was mentioed i tis threat, that pilots might loose thier job whe they just waste missiles. thats true for every field of military, cause a wast of resources makes troops ineffective. ineffectivenes causes lifes and you have to write a report for each weapon deployment esspecally whe the single weapon cost more than a house most people here, thats wha it seems to me, like to forget the fact that in the airforce, the pilots are controlled about 99% and have no freedom like we do have it in lockon. whe you do ot behave the way you are trained or advised by air control you are grounded for many days or eve loose the job. but well, it is true tha in real life o 2 ship would for example attack a 6ship cause pilots know tht it is impossible to engage all the planes with success in the firs time, so they would have to risk more the thier plane, they would have to risk thier lifes ad that is something nobody likes. ok lets sum it up, real life is harder then a sim, although real life has more techical advantages

ok GGtharos, now let me tell you one little thing about the real life. taktiks that work in real life do work in lockon and the other way, thats what i actually mentioned with my words. and only because the is the ED Tester Team underneath your name does that not mean, o just saying others are crap. you know, i could tell the people here alot about fighting with the eagle in real life, but in that case it is part of the secretact, and would cause my cousin to loose his job and bring me into jail. thats not worth it, believe me. it is nice to read your oppinion but well i have my knowledge from a real pilot who is, or was 23 years in flying fighters, and sorry when i say that this way, but he for sure knows more about fighting and all the tactics, then an little ed tester who propably never ever felt what 9 gґs feel like. ahh, before i forget it, the aim 120 in lock on is like the a version of that stick, thats what i can tell you cause it is all known how good or bad the aim 120a was. the new aim 120c is way better after it had many software updates and boster updates, the max range is at about 100 miles which is way more than the one in lockon has. you should never forget lockon is game, or a sim if you want to call it right, and not real life. real life is more advanced and has more possibilities then lockon, thats why all the easy stuff of lock on is possiblie in real life, believe me or not it is your choice. and well GGtharos, why do i have picture of myself in the avatr of me wearing a helmet off the new target cueing system of the us air force? do you think that it is a joke ? for sure it is not ahh by the way, i also have a friend who is a german instructor pilot who trained the guys in canada and he also knows lockon. his comment, most realistic fighter sim, next to falcon. do you really think these people do not know what they talk about?

and by the way, cause i read on page 3 some interesting oppinions, when an amramm does not hit the target, it does not mean, that the missile is the guilty one, nono guys, did it ever came to your mind, that the other pilot, the bandit, made the right choice at the right time? maybe the pilot you are fighting with is better then you predicted and well that means it will end up in a hard fight, cause when nobody is shot down, till you reach a dogfight distance, then both sides have made things right and wrong at the same fight, is everybody able to follow? but one thing is for sure, when you are a good pilot, you will have killed your target with at least the 3rd missile. that is thefact, cause a good pilot always tries to predict what the bandit does next, it is like chest ok, i better stop now, or they will kick me out of the forum, lol

thanks kuky i am way to deep into the bussiness of fighteraircrafts for a too long time, to not say anything to that threat. i myself have a f-15c pilot in my family, and guess what, maddoging is the last choice acting in a fight. first you fire and hope with a big possibilty of not hitting the foe, then you have to redo it more than one time, most likely, unless the bandit is in visual range, and the worst is, you really, and i mean really, waist missiles. out of six unguided missiles, without support of the weaponcomp, only one will evantually kill one bandit. but how everybody knows, fighters are not rambos and fly alone, there for you allways have to predict at least 2 to 4 bandits. when you shot in a maddoging style, like mantioned, it will be for a good team of 2 pilots, like chicken hunt, an easy task. and by the way guys, maddoging is real when you want to fire an 27et at override, which they can also perform in real life. but it is not easy at all to fire an et at a range of 40 -50 km. you rally have to be well trained and have to know what you do, but thats a totally other topic, just wanted to mention that nearly everything in lock on is possible in real life, only that in real life you have better weapons, but he basics of fighting an bvr are the same, as far you have gone through a good flightschool in an onlinesquad but well, you all will figure for yourself, trust me greetings borchi_2b

thats awesome, now we can also train like the real pilots not to have a birdstrike, what is very recent, when you fly at low level keep up the work i like it

ok yeniceri, let me tell yozu, yes there are existing pilots whos name is or was maddog. i myself know one former f-15e WSO whos callsign was maddog, but the actual thing is, maddoging is one, sorry the words, piece of bulls.... . all the pilots who say that this is the way of killing a bandit, are not really good pilots, sorry, but in real combat no pilot would ever maddog a amraam unless he is in a close range fight like 10 miles where he shots the amraam nearly visual on a target and has no time to lock, cause the misslie goes of the rail active. maddoging is crap, cause, when you have a good pilot, he will evade the dangerzone right away, like my leader and i do it. as a team we know what to do and when to do. the maddoging only works against noobs or people who never tested the azimuth of the amramm. we know how long we have to flank or gimgle to get out of that envelope of the missile. i bet, that no maddoging missile will hit anybody of us, cause we always try to see in advance what happens next be analysing the movement of the bandit. usually the people who are maddoging turn after they have fired thier missiles. so when the bandit turns at a range of 25 km or about 17 miles, or less, we know that an rwr call of an active missile will follow shortly, so what do we do. we turn 180, or gimble 90 and raise altitude. so what happens folks, the missile runs out of energie and it will not hit at all, even when you predicted the right direction there is allways a countermeassure for bandits like the people who shot and thrust the actives to much thats about all a good pilot, does not matter if in real life or virtually, always makes decisions, it only matters if he makes the right once. you make a mistake, you usually die greetings borchi_2b

just one little question, why do you model the prototyp? i would rather like to see the f-22 raptor which is the plane the airforce is using allready, and which is approved in design and so on i personally do not like the design of the prototyp. whats with your request. ok, i will, if i have the time, look for some tutorials on the internet for you, but maybe somebody else with a bit more time, can help you out C4D or Maya would be easier for me to explain, cause that is what i normaly use 3d max only for lock on