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As per the manual, the SA page should display on its datablock the NCTR print of offboard donors like AWACS. It doesn't currently. Track attached. sa page nctr offboard.trk

I've never seen it before and I tested it thoroughly. Tested it again now and it only shows ownships NCTR print. @Santi871 You probably know about this. Can you tell us please if the SA page datablock should or should not display offboard/SURV NCTR print? THanks a ton! EDIT: manual says The manual even shows a picture of an offboard only (not radar detected) target that has an SU27 print. So it seems there is a bug going on. I'll make a report.

Thanks. So you think the SA page should display the SURV NCTR print? In DCS it only shows yours.

No, it doesn't need to be in the radar's field of regard. The blades send an independent beam, but the carrier frequency is totally different and has no intention to listen to the return of the interrogations rather than the reply itself. Remember the hornet doesn't have the interrogator in the mechanical gymbal of the radar. It uses the blades antennas that you see in the nose.

So the AZ EL page shows the type of aircraft of the L&S: How is that possible? Are AWACS beams so powerful to determine that no matter the aspect? Why doesn't this appear on the SA page? Doesn't make much sense to me. Does anyone know if the real jet does it? Thanks.

Nope. Simple as that

OK I see now that you were talking about range not azimuth. In azimuth is like I said. As for the range, I'm sure the velocity and range gate are the same as the radar's, so it won't allow it to display everything.

No, it doesn't work like that. Only the covered radar beam generates trackfiles to be interrogated.

Say what? I don't think you're talking about the same thing here. We're talking about the interrogation azimuth and range, has nothing to do with how many things are shown in any radar format.

Huh? I am not having any issue with range. See OP. It smashes the water when trying to skim.

Interrogations signals will tell everyone that they are being interrogated so there's a thing there where you might not want that. But at the same time why would that matter if the radar itself is already giving away your position and type of threat (carrier frequency)? I think there should be a performance penalty but in DCS no matter what you set it will always interrogate every 10 seconds. Wags even said there is an update rate change but they forgot to code it in dcs? I don't know. Good questions though.

I tested more and seems that the skim profile is broken. If you select pop it will not crash.

Still wrong in every paragraph, sorry to be that guy Modes 1 and 2 are military, not civilian. Mode 4 is not implemented, instead a magic iff is hardcoded and just named mode 4 by wags in his hornet videos. If it was simulated you would have at least the need for setting the UFC right, tick mode4 and select which key to use, if you wanted it simplistic for classified purposes then ED could have made that all coalitions and aircraft within use the same A key for example but at least make you select it. Another way to see it is not simulted is the fact that you can touch the erase switches in the left console and nothing happens, oops and you still have IFF. Now all you have to do is turn it on and no matter what you touch it will "work". Can you see finally why this is not simulated and why this thread goes on? Regards.

Any thoughts guys?

Yeap! Or they can use the IDENT function, or IP in the hornet.

Ok, so forget about what module does what, as we're talking about real life behavior. There are two parts in the IFF world, the transponder and the interrogator. The hornet has a CIT which is a combined module, but for all intended purposes its the same. The transponder responds to an interrogation, but you have to tell it what to respond. In other words you have to tell it what mode and what code inside that mode it has to respond to the interrogation. The interrogation also has to be in that same mode if the code is to work. If the interrogation is in mode 1 and you have set your transponder in mode 2 then the response will be taken as negative or no reply at all. The hornet and every other aircraft in dcs apart from the jf17 has a magic iff where no matter what you do with your aircraft it will always work fine, apart from turning the system on in some aircraft like the hornet, there is nothing else to do. So we are missing a lot of the real life procedures counterpart. Selecting the mode to answer and to ask (transponder and interrogator), selecting the code or key, etc. This video will help you more:

I know, thankfully xd But you're wrong in many levels. First fighters do use those modes, otherwise they could not operate in the skies of the free world Second, plane to plane comms? What are you talking about? This is IFF thread. Sorry language barrier may be preventing me to catch what you are trying to say.

Lotac has nothing to do with DCS, so no, it doesn't work other than turning the system on. Bunny was right. Lotac just uses UFC status like switches to know where the switch is or in this case what option and status the ufc has, in order to do things. Doesn't mean it works at all. Regards.

It would be really awesome if the Hornet had the simulation that the jf17 has currently. Simple transponder and interrogator modes (combined in the Hornet CIT), nothing classified, just modes and codes, and the mode 4 encryption just a simple coalition A/B setting. Just by doing that the immersion we will get gets really bumped up.

Thanks guys! Let's hope ED can bring the SLAM back to the state it was when first released. It is too accurate now. Regards.

I meant SLAM. JDAM always hit a small tank 100% of the times since day 1 in DCS.

Roger. I remember the first time it was implemented in the hornet (in dcs) that the long shots from more than 20nm always ended up missing if not using terminal guidance. But now you can hit a dove from 60nm.

So having GPS isn't a guarantee that the CEP will be the same between different platforms? So JDAM can have GPS and a CEP of 30 while SLAM can also have GPS but a CEP of let's say 100? I'm trying to understand the real life aspect (personal knowledge)and then compare it to how DCS works (so as to have the best experience).

It doesn't have GPS? Wags says it does that's why I assumed it did. Are you sure? I know I'm playing a game, no need to be that guy, just curious about the facts and the implementations thanks.

In Wags instructional video he says that the slam isn't as accurate as a jdam and that we should use the man in the loop option for it to hit precise. There are two things I don't fully understand about this: If the weapon has both GPS and INS, why would it be any different than JDAM? In DCS I can hit a small tank from 60nm without any MITL. Why is that if it isn't supposed to be that accurate? Thanks!