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The missile up-link should definitely trip the RWR, what it produces is really up to ED but should be a missile launch warning.

Except that the R-73 has a con-scan seeker and the 9X a FPA.

What you're referring to is bang-bang guidance which is mostly used in early air-air missiles and some ATGMs. Modern missiles (our sparrows included) don't use this.

Most air-air TWS modes just sweep, as long as the designated targets remain within the TWS search area. Some radars will use spotlighting once targets leave the scan area to maintain tracks though.

To add to what's been said already, I recall the batteries being maintained improperly resulting in the motors failing to ignite.

No it's fine, you can fold them with missiles attached. Shouldn't cause any problems. There's this to keep in mind though:

I don't have time to read through all the threads you keep linking in this convoluted way of yours. Modders aren't ED or 3rd party devs, they don't have access to the SDK. The poll asked about the removal of the datalink, that's what I voted for, if the devs come back and say that's not possible without removing the VSD, we'll reconsider it. Let's just see if the devs respond. No need to make such a fuss about it...

How do you know? It's literally only you who's saying that. It might be as simple as one line of code to completely disable the datalink and retain the VSD-style mode. Real one too, same HDD as the 27SK. For the early versions that is, which is what it represents right now. No, it's the only function. That's why it was changed. Not because ED is inept at changing their own code and could only remove the entire display. Truth is that you don't have a clue how hard to re-code it is, period.

Some radars can automatically disable the notch in look-up which is why notching won't do much there.

I think it's hilarious how you keep making all these assumptions about what I want or do. I had my fair share of stick time in the J-11 and plan to fly it in the future as well... And even if I wouldn't I still have a right to vote here lol You keep saying that and only link back to your comment where you say that that's how it works. How about we wait and hear from the devs if and how dificult to remove it is? Lastly I strongly disagree with making it a mission editor option, look at how that worked out with the mirage. It's a pain to disable and most mission makers don't bother. Either have it or don't, I gave my opinion on the matter, you gave yours, stop being condescending to people that disagree with you. Won't comment on this anymore.

Okay buddy, whatever floats your boat. I actually do care about realism and had you actually read what I said over and over again you would know. I think we all understand the issue, the early lot J-11 we have modeled in game doesn't have the data link equipment because Russia didn't sell/license it. The later lot that has the domestic datalink has a completely redone MFD isn't the one we have modeled in the sim, so the obvious realistic answer is, remove the datalink. It's funny how you say I'm only concerned about competitiveness while arguing it should keep the datalink because the F-15 has 120Cs or the MiG-21 Groms. If everyone takes that approach we'll end up with aircraft that are all a mix of different versions and capabilities because you feel it's not balanced. This should be decided on a case by case basis. Not to mention that the AIM-120C is banned virtually any competition anyway, so wouldn't effect me, the guy that is apparently only concerned about how I'm going to spam 120s on something ;)

Lol, I'm done. This affects everyone who is up against the J-11 not just the people that fly it... I won't comment on the rest, it's just non-sense, you're overthinking this. They asked if we want the unrealistic feature removed, people say yes. The vote has clearly shown this. If you can't get over that then that's not our problem. You're the only person saying it's somehow impossible to simply disable the AWACS link without providing proof, without the devs having commented on it and you call people stupid when they ask why you think that way.

So you're saying it's impossible to disable the datalink without removing the HDD? Where did you get that from? If you're not sure what they're allowed to do you should take a step back before being this bold lol

We're talking about the datalink not the HDD, that wasn't changed in our version of the J-11. Only thing that wasn't there is the datalink equipment.

I'm not biased towards the F-15 and its "competitiveness" but it seems like some people are concerned about just that with regards to removing the datalink on the J-11 which was clearly not installed on the J-11 block that is currently represented in the sim. Not sure why this even needs discussing...

Are you talking to me or the guy above me that brought the F-15 into this to begin with?

Well, but if that's how the real plane displays it then I don't see the reason to change it, for balance. If it's not then show some evidence to ED and hopefully they change it.

Hey, I'm all for giving the J-11s their datalink that only later blocks had... If ED gives the F-15s link-16, AESA radars and HMDs, you know, because later versions have it.

Source?

The radar can be slewed to the HMD LOS, so can the 9M but only to the seeker limit obviously, which is less than 70° (don't remember exactly how much).

What are you on about with the datalink/MFD removal? It was done to reflect reality as the 29s that we have modelled didn't have that feature, only HUD repeater.

It is very much not just a drag issue, the guidance is completely borked. All missiles in game, IR/RF, use LOS-rate PN. Radar guided missiles should be taking into account range/range-rate, angle/angle-rate, altitude, target accelaration, target maneuvers and so on, influencing the guidance response. INS is not modelled for RF guided missiles, when they loose lock they stop pulling any Gs and just fly straight. Lofting isn't properly implemented and just kills all the missile's speed instead of extending the range. All this combined with the drag, CCM issues, netcode/proximity fuse issues makes ALL missiles a lot less effective than they should be, making for unrealistic BVR dynamics.

All missiles are FUBAR, the AMRAAM probably the most (as in how far away from RL capability it is). A 15nm missile in DCS (77, 120 or any missile) will not kill any skilled pilot, even if it's launched from >40kft, M1.3.

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Necro, anyhow in the MiG-29 the TD "box" will change depending on what sensor is on and you will see a lamp on the right dash light up when the radar is on.