The Black Swan

If you take that point of view then ED as a business would put the most lucrative part of their business in highest priority.... Which would be the civ sim market... And again there is the question of why develop a civilian rescue chopper when you could develop a MILITARY rescue chopper.... Or a passenger jet when you could a B-1. I get what your saying I just think the transition to what you're talking about could destroy the momentum ED has in developing DCS as a military sim at least for a while

Yes but ED has to quality check everything... Which is a lot more involved than it sounds. Oh don't get me wrong I love the idea of ANY replicated aircraft, it's just from a development standpoint why would you want 3 people from the development team (whether 3rd party or not) developing a private jet when they could be helping make a f-16, or if you want non combat, a C-130. Why make a civ plane when you still have SO many military aircraft from different eras/countries to put effort into instead? Does nobobody see what I'm getting at? If ED had to start testing 3rd party civ aircraft while the civ sim market FLOODED into DCS, it would strike a heavy (if not fatal) blow to EDs goal of making THE combat simulator. At least in our lifetime...

But why would anyone want to spend their free time flying a Cessna when the can fly a P-51? Lol Sorry I just don't get it. I like the idea of a deeper sim but I'd much rather ED devote their time to military aircraft. Think just how long it takes them to put out current modules/major updates to DCS. If the civ flight market took over they would quickly become just about that, even if they hired more programmers, because the demand for that is so high. Not only that ED gets a lot of support from TFC and TBS. ED is really a combat sim from the ground up. If we ever run out of military fighters/bombers to make modules out of then fine make civ stuff lol. But until then there are Plenty of civ flight sims out there for the other market.

LOL! Go ahead and add a helicarrier to that! :D

F/A-18C Hornet Spitfire Harrier F-14 Tomcat P-40 Thunderbolt 2.5 with all effects clouds etc. Strait of Hormuz Everything else

Awesome idea, I also thought Hawaii would be great. However with such a diverse community they might take a long brake from the US after Nevada...

Wish for? F-22 hands down... Fictional? hmmmm Millennium falcon One of those jets from stargate with a stargate to fly through or maybe one of those jets from the movie stealth

Same.

SON.... Just don't.

Gotcha, I wasn't sure if missle ranges were listed that way or not.

Whoa.... I take it that's for shots fired from high altitude right?

Ah ok that makes a lot of sense. Still surprised we don't have a more modern version of the Phoenix. Then again, do we actually know the real range of the newest AMRAAMS?

:( Aww... So what is it about the AMRAAM other than its active radar that makes it a viable replacement? Or is that info not really clear to the public?

My question is why did they retire it????

Just curious, but why did your enthusiasm calm down because of that? The real f-18 grip is made from a hard resin, which he is trying to duplicate. You would be excited if someone gave ya a real f-18 grip wouldn't you?

"Instead I think it should be more like a Wargame by Eugene Systems. More like a Wargame:Airland battles" YES

Lol sorry... i'm really trying to understand your point of view here.

So the textures that they distribute on the current map for FREE are protected? how? how can people make texture mods then?

So? how does that change the fact that ED could use starways textures?

But ED can't claim it, because its free for everyone. Unless they change it significantly enough to make it a separate product. and then sell, lock down that version. But then Starway's would still be around for everyone.

ED could probably fix that

really? how? explain? i mean really think about it. If i paid a guy to release a new OS to the public and he did, and then someone used that OS on their PCs they were building to make them better. That wouldn't be fraud. Because EVERYONE can use it. FRAUD is when someone gains something by dishonest means. NOT when someone uses something free to enhance their product

That's like saying if a guy was giving away mulch and sod for free on the side of the road to a neighborhood and a company in charge of maintaining the neighborhood took it and made the whole place look better and then sold more homes because of it. that they were committing fraud.... and that the guy on the side of the road committed fraud....

WHY? In the original situation ED would have only "bought" it as much as people would buy the map and then given whatever agreed percent to Starway. In this situation people bought the map but ALL of the given money was sent to Starway at his price. Like I said the community bought the map for ED and themselves. The last thing i would want to do is offend Starway, but HE set the price for the map to be released publicly and it was met.

EXACTLY -ED's sim looks better so they get increased sales -Starway gets the donation money he asked for -The players get a better map Its a win, win, win, for a situation that originally looked pretty sad. Unless Starway felt betrayed in which case i would hesitate.