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This conception is nothing new in military vehicles, and usually called "emergency power", or something similar. And usually require special means to activate it. The fact that Huey have no emergency mode, and also that civilian Hueys are exactly the same as military ones, tells me that Huey governor is NOT designed to routinely kill the engine, as DCS Huey does.

I know what the relation between collective and governor. But if you are an engineer, and your governor is constantly killing an engine - you go back to the drawing board. And they did! As Huey enthusiast, I had read and watched my share of Huey pilots memuars. And although they mentioned various downsides of Huey, noone ever talked about that you can kill it engine super easily, just pulling up the collective. In fact, they were talking about reliability of the machine. This makes me think, that Bell engineers weren't bunch of guys who had no idea what they are doing.

It just an estimate from muscle memory. Of course it not very accurate, but you always have plenty of additional collective movement on Huey, that you can not use. No, current Huey is nothing like DCS WWII props. As I told, with WWII birds 100% throttle is a viable control option. With current Huey, 100% collective is not an option, if you planning to fly home by your own.

To my understanding, in reality, engine performance is not depend on collective position. It is just with the same control inputs, you get less power depending on ambient temperature and/or altitude. And it shouldn't be like you always blown your engine if you dare to pull more collective. With very little regard to any external factors. No sane engineer would design a machine like that.

Current situation in my opinion is every bit as ridiculous, as it was before EGT was implemented. Now you always have plenty of additional power available, it is just a gentle pull of the collective away. But you can't use it, because your engine will die. No other module have this nonsense. You were talking about WWII warbirds? 100% throttle is totally an option with them, you just need to use it wisely. For Huey, it is not a case. It would be much better if they just take out 30% of engine power, but let pilot to use full collective authority when needed.

I'm not comparing Huey and Mi-8, those are very different machines :doh: But you CAN push DCS Mi-8 to it limits (which are very different from Huey), if you know how. And you CAN'T push DCS Huey to it limits (IT limits, not the limits of Mi-8, what idiot would want to do that?), no matter what. Not even close.

I'm asking for no such things. All I want is to be able to squeeze from engine what it have. If I use some figures of speech, it dosen't mean that I expect to pull collective like crazy and go for the Moon landing PS Role model how it should work, for me it DCS Mi-8. You can break it easily if you do not know what you doing, but at the same time, if you do, you can get great performance from this machine.

Why everyone suggest that I do not know how to fly a helicopter? I do. And by the way, currently you can't "work your way up to it". You will carefully work up to around 70% and then you in the red zone on EGT, where it going to stay forever. Although there are plenty of engine power and lifting power left.

Most frustrating thing for me in current EGT model - DCS Huey still have plenty of power. If you pull enough collective - it will go up as a rocket. But you can't use this power.

This is what I'm doing. But I think that Huey is capable of more.

No, I don't expect wonders. I expect it to be better than today. But yes, with careful flying, I expect to be able to squeeze more power than we are able today.

When loaded, about 80-90 knots on level flight. Around 60-80 with sling loads. PS It is pointless to try to prove me that Huey is not broken right now. I know it is.

To my experience - torque is completely useless now. So are the engine sounds. You blown engine out because of EGT much faster. So, at least for me, I'm ending with monitoring only EGT. PS But it not only that. Overall performance is far from plausible too, in my opinion. Especially if you start to compare what we can do with Huey in DCS with it actual specifications. It need fixing.

Exactly. But currently, EGT gauge is living it own life. And as result, you do not care about any other gauge. You concentrating only on EGT: is it in yellow already? Is it red? This alone is not right.

I can land on autorotation, no problem at all. And you are right, it is quite releaving, because you can use collective as situation dictates, without EGT restrains.

I'm not a pilot, but to my understanding if you are really careful with collective, you should be able to get maximum power from your engine into torque without blowing the engine. Currently - there is no way to do it. That why our Huey is broken.

I'm using precondition, that if control element have it range, this range have to be useful, at least in some circumstances. And this is true for any other DCS module. Of course, if you start jerking the stick carelessly, it will end badly. But in certain situations you CAN have 100% input. But not collective on the Huey.

I'm currently on 11 mission of Argo campaign, flown missions 8 to 10 today, so I know exactly what I'm talking about. Upper range of collective is currently suicide mode, nothing more.

Perfect example of "be careful what you wish for". Belsimtek indeed BREAK our poor Huey. I get used to current EGT limits and can fly without toasting my engine. But man, with current model under no circumstances, never ever, I could give more than about 70% of collective. This is wrong, and that why current Huey is indeed broken.

I would recommend it also. Very nice and simple plane, yet have lot of potential.

I had restored mine that way, but in couple of days it dead again. How this feature works exactly (what kills your pilot in a log) and how to turn it off for good? PS To get things more complicated, I had Russian installation of DCS, then English (because ED do not care to implement proper multilanguage support), so now my pilot have some Cyrillic writings in the log file. Could it be the reason the game is killing me?

This is what I call "tough luck" :doh:

I was thinking that something like this could happen, but then I had convinced myself: no, it can not be, things like this are surely accounted for :P

Interesting, that it is actually designed to break. Brute, but somehow elegant solution, nonetheless.

Yes, that was my question. And I got an answer already :)