Zulu

I believe only the incident with the Patriot SAMs where friendly fire where as the incident with the Roland SAM was enemy fire. The Iraqis still had some left over when they were still friends with the West.

Gee I never realised that many aircraft have been shot down, its weird how this is not really reported on in the media.

Ya well we need a big lifter and quick as the only thing that we are some aging C-130B's. I hope they decide on something like a C-17 or something, I highly doubt they will go for any Russian or eastern design.

I dont remember anything like this happening before?

BANG! And passenger was gone BANG! And passenger was gone Joyrider accidentally ejects from SAAF aerobatic aircraft Oct 31, 2009 9:26 PM | By ROGER MAKINGS The civilian passenger was expecting the ride of a lifetime when he strapped himself into the back seat of a South African Air Force Silver Falcons aircraft. But after the aircraft took off, he got more than he bargained for - way more. Although confirmed details are thin, it is probable that during an aerobatic manoeuvre, the passenger tried to steady himself by grabbing the black and yellow striped handle between his legs. And that's when the ride really began. The ejection sequence started with the firing of the three cartridges in the Martin Baker-built seat. The seat lifted about 45cm off the floor and this activated the two rockets. Passenger and seat smashed through the Perspex canopy of the Pilatus PC-7 Mk II and, pulling about 20G, was 100ft out of the aircraft in two seconds flat. The bewildered, and probably terrified, former occupant, whose identity has not been revealed, would have found himself floating in the crisp afternoon air of the Western Cape's Langebaanweg, probably watching as his equally stunned pilot, Captain Gerhard Lourens, circled to make sure his erstwhile passenger was okay. In confirming Wednesday's incident, the SAAF said a board of inquiry had been established. "Much of the information has yet to be tested, but it is confirmed that a civilian passenger unintentionally ejected from a Silver Falcons Pilatus PC-7 Mk II Astra during a general flying sortie out of Langebaanweg Air Force Base this week. "The passenger was recovered (by helicopter) unharmed, and returned to Langebaanweg. The aircraft landed safely." The spokesman said the flight had been cleared and all procedures adhered to "prior to the passenger boarding the aircraft", making it unlikely charges would follow. A retired SAAF instructor pilot said yesterday the passenger could consider himself extremely lucky to have survived the ejection with barely a scratch. "We train for this and if you don't get it right, and are not in the correct ejection posture, you can sustain severe spinal cord injuries or even worse." He said it was not possible that the seat fired of its own accord. There were too many safety features built into the system. "All it takes is for the firing handle (the rubbery black and yellow striped loop) to be pulled up about 2.5cm and you're on your way out." He said the ejection would have been dramatic. "You get one almighty kick under the backside and then you're gone. "The seat separates from the pilot automatically and the chute opens. This is in case the pilot is incapacitated during the ejection." He added that the passenger would have received a thorough briefing on the ejection sequence and warned that the "loop" between his legs was not to be touched unless the pilot called "eject, eject, eject" during the flight. Such a briefing is done routinely, even when two qualified pilots are involved in the flight. It is likely the rear cockpit was extensively damaged by the firing of the cartridges and rockets during the ejection. The Silver Falcons are the SAAF's aerobatic team that perform precision formation and aerobatics displays at airshows around the country. The five pilots are all serving instructors at Central Flying School, Langebaanweg. As one observer put it: "What a trip. That guy took off in an Astra, came down in a parachute, and landed back at base in a helicopter. Not bad for a for a single flip." http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytim...icle174661.ece

xm-108 glide bomb

wtf since when?

Well it doesnt nessarly happen below the recommend level, it can happen as low as 18 - 20m depending on the person. It is called Nitrogen Narcosis and you dont feel 'high' you mainly see things that no one else see's or in extreme cases people forget they are underwater thus taking off their gear. All in all it just depends on the person. I have had it and most if not all divers that go deeper than 20m have had it. In my case I thought I saw a 6 foot long 3 foot high fish that no one could recall seeing.

Hi am also and Advanced Diver and have been to the Red Sea aboard a Liveaboard and I can tell you it is a great experiance, especially the wreck dives such as the SS Thistlegorm which was bombed in WW2 and contains 2 bren gun carriers lots of Lee Enfields, motorcycles + sidecars, plane parts and has a cool what looks like a 3 inch AA gun on the stern with lots of empty shells lying about. But what does spoil it is the amount of divers on some of these spots, where sometimes there where over 60 - 70 divers in the water!

Ya thats how real pilots do it

F-18 being refueled

that is the weirdest looking afv I have ever seen

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XB-70

ahh my bad

Well I agree that not many third world country's has F-1s but during the 80's South Africa(though I wouldnt exactly call us 3rd world) did and they worked very well in taking out coloumns of T-55s etc. I would also recommend the Aermacci MB-326 or as we called it the Impala. It was a steady gun platform and had a large payload. Only one was ever shot down after hundreds of CAS missions

Zimbabwe about 8 years ago-

I know the Rooivalk can carry AAMs it has a set of pylons just for them

I believe this is how the campaign is supposed to be. ie. you cant just redo the mission till you are successful but rather new missions are presented according to your success/failure

OK XP it is

Hi guys I want to ask your opinoin on what operating system I should install once ive formatted my drive. Its not my computer but rather my dads work computer which doesnt really need to run games or graphics intensive programs. Its current specs are: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 32bit 3.4Ghz Intel Pentium 4 1.5Gb RAM 80GB HD Nvidea 7800 GT 512mb I want to format it due to windows giving alot of problems including not updating to service pack 3. I have a spare Vista Business 32bit CD which came with my comp but didnt install it due to the many issues surrounding it. So is it worth installing Vista(are the issues fixed) or will I have many compatability issues and will it be fine with two computers connected to it that are running XP. Or should I just stick to XP? Thanks alot in advance.

C-47

k well tour turn

Ya ur right u clever bastad but it isnt a Oryx but rather a Puma, XTP-1

Sorry they are scans but try figure out what these two are. Hint: There related.