MadMonty

So I used the Arduino Mirco and Brunner DX which worked out very well for me. Yesterday I tried Brunner DirectX for the very first time, flying the hornet. The trim buttons did their job by trimming the airplane, but the stick remained centred. Using the Adruino I was used to the hardware trim which moved my stick to the trimmed position, which I like very much. So did I do something wrong using the Brunner DirectX method, or does it simply not support hardware trim? I switched back to Arduino and everything work perfectly again...

Do you have easy comms on? If not, you will have to switch your radio (e.g. Comm1) to the correct frequency of the carrier and also have to press Right-Alt-backslash for Comm1.

Interesting. How does only game sound simulate gear movement, stalls, air brakes etc.? I was not aware that the game sound differentiates all these individual conditions...

Yes, you need SSA and Sound Module to get your buttkicker running in DCS. But it´s worth the money, André is doing a great job with his software. Unfortunately I do not know which other games are being supported, maybe you check his website.

The size of the disappointment correlates with the magnificence of your simulation. And I am very disappointed... All good - if you wait 1 month for this day (and think about it every day), then a little disappointment is probably understandable. Although I fully understand that your plans can change and you want to release a mature product.

The concern that the date would be postponed was very present. But after nothing was heard until today, I firmly assumed that it would work out. Too bad, I had now already privately freed up my time for the patch and testing.... On the one hand, I would find it nice if the postponement of a patch that has been announced for over 1 month would be communicated a little earlier, on the other hand, I very much hope that the short-term postponement on the last mile is a sign that the patch will be published only a few days later then!?

Please write to Andre: simshaker@proton.me He will provide you with valid payment solutions, it worked out very well for me.

Apache does not have force trim off like the Huey. So while pressing trim button in the Apache you can move the stick freely to a new center position, after release force trim brings the stick always back to the (new) center. So are you missing creating a new center position or a real force trim off (no recentering) which I think is just not available in the Apache?

Thanks - you saved my day. I was lost in CTDs and had no clue what to do....

Yeah - just plug the micro USB - done! It is very tiny and lightweighted, so I leave it hanging on the cable. Of course you can put it in a tiny box or something.

Exactly - also only using Throttle without any problems…

With an USB micro cable (not included)

Hey Mark, unfortunately, I can not quite understand what happened to me. In a flight with the F18, I had the center of the joystick relatively far back and could then hardly pull any G in DCS. I suspect that when using the autopilot there was an offset between DCS and BrunnerDX. Maybe I accidentally used the trim in flight or changed the center point with the autopilot activated , in any case the stick in DCS and in my cockpit were no longer in sync. But this happened only once - hence my assumption that something similar may have happened to you.

Hey Mark, please check if your joystick trim of BrunnerDX was centered before the flight. I once had the same problem in the F18 and I think the reason was improper joystick centering (DCS centered, BrunnerDX not centered) before the flight started. It's just a guess....

I guess you shouldn´t go to stable but to latest beta as mentioned above...

I played around a bit with BrunnerDX without knowing exactly what I was doing at first. First of all, I specified the buttons of my POV hat as trim in BrunnerDX. With it I had then in DCS (e.g. with the F18) no success, since in DCS the trim assignments were deleted, because I had trimmed before over CLS2 and wanted to avoid a "double" trimming. I have then assigned the trim to the POV hat in DCS in the same way as in BrunnerDX. Now DCS trims the joystick and BrunnerDX returns exactly the joystick positions from DCS to the Brunner stick. Yes, there is the disadvantage of not being able to save the profiles differently. But in the end there are only 2 sliders you have to manage. One is "Force" which sets the maximum strength of the stick. This is then not constant, but dependent on the DCS module. With a BF109, for example, I have lower forces in slow flight than at high speed, because DCS (apparently) delivers this as output. The second slider (whose name I can't think of right now) is under trim, it determines the centering force. For airplanes I set it rather higher, for helicopters rather lower. More can and is not to be tuned, however. I was initially surprised with the helicopters, because the stick first wanted to return to the center position and only when I kept the trim depressed, it could be moved freely and after releasing the trim, the new position was the new center position. I wasn't sure if this is correct for helis (in this case Huey) until I noticed the Force Trim On/Off button. If I press it (center console cockpit) the centering force goes to zero and the stick is free to move, if I turn it on, the centering force comes back. The real trim of the Huey seems to have been implemented here 1:1 (without that I am a Huey expert, but otherwise the Force Trim switch would make no sense). It may well be that some modules are better to fly with CLS2, but it is only 2 mouse clicks to configure CLS2 again as the main software. In this respect, BrunnerDX is very worthwhile, at least for me.

Guys - have you had a look into this thread? I haven´t been happy with CLS2SIM for various reasons and must admit, the solution described here is cheap (only Arduino controller needed), installation is very easy and the result just perfect. It took a while for me to understand how trim works, but at the end it is not the hardware trim of CSL2SIM giving input to DCS, now I trim via DCS and my Joysticks receives stick position from DCS (so the other way around). Also forces are much better, because from my point of view DCS gives different outputs (e.g. fly by wire is different to ww2) and now my Joystick is doing exactly (in terms of forces and vibrations) what DCS ist telling him and not artificial simulated by CLS2SIM. Last but not least my center position is way more accurate, I have no oscillation problems any more and helicopter flying is on another level (e.g. deactivation force trim in the Huey Works like in real life). If interested, you should give it a try - the Arduino ist only 20 Euros invest.

I have now also got the Arduino and installed everything. The whole process took a few minutes and worked absolutely smoothly. My big compliments to @Chuls for the ingenious implementation. FFB now works so much better with DCS! I always had problems with the exact centering of the joystick via CLS2SIM. To get it exactly centered, I had to increase the forces, but then it started oscillating. If I reduced the forces, I was minimally off-center left and right and could, for example, not use the heading autopilot (HSEL) in the F18, because it only overrides the joystick at exact center position. Now the stick is where it should be, precisely in the center with well adjustable forces, without oscillation. Also the helis can be set up great. I was first irritated, because CLS2SIM just does not automatically center the stick, which is desired in the heli, but BrunnerDX still returns the stick to the center. In the Huey I then saw that I can (or must) deactivate the center position in the heli itself via "Force Trim Off" switch to be able to use the stick without centering, so the functions of the helis are really passed on 1:1 to the stick - simply brilliant. THANK YOU for this implementation - that makes the Brunner CLS-E a so much better joystick!

A stupid question - why do you need BrunnerDX (with Arduino)? The CLS2-Software supports DCS and it works fine. Or does BrunnerDX provide additional features that CLS2-Sim does not?

For clarification - you can´t choose the F18-Stick out of the drop down menu, but choosing TM Warthog grip is fine and the F18 grip is fully functional.

Thanks - I guess I haven´t read to the very end of this thread

So just to clarification: Should BS3 work with 2.5.7 beta or not? Because my buttkicker still does not work with BS3 and I do got error messages...

USING F18 AUTOPILOT WITH CLS-E I have the following problem... I use the CLS-E with an extension, so I have set the forces relatively low near the dead zone, otherwise the known problem of oscillation occurs. However, this does not give me a fixed dead center, but a zone around the dead center in which the joystick can be moved very easily. This is not a problem for flying. However, when I want to use the autopilot with the F18, the following problem arises: If I use CSEL to follow the path, the autopilot works without problems, even if the joystick is not exactly in the center position. However, if I use HSEL to follow a given heading, the autopilot only works if the joystick is exactly in the center position. However, because the joystick is almost never exactly in the center position due to the aforementioned settings, I cannot use HSEL properly. If I move the joystick to the center, the autopilot reacts and brings the aircraft on course. If I leave the center position by 1mm, the F18 perceives this as an override of the autopilot and the aircraft drifts off course. Do you also have this problem or does anyone have a solution?

Yeah - my comms were broken too and a complete repair fixed it...

Good morning community! i wish everyone a relaxed friday - please enjoy the day whether the patch arrives today or not. The bigger the patch the higher the dissapointment for any delays. So this patch must be really big ED has always delivered, not always the day we have wished for, but we all have been very happy at the end. So keep on being patient… You can do it