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Hi guys! I`m thinking about Pure Blue VS Red tournament using 120B and PL12 missiles with identical range. It will be hosted on "EXERCISE RED FLAG" multiplayer server. There is a temp mission running on it with Reds armed with PL-12. You won`t find beter matching missiles amongst Fox3s. I would gladly host this turnament. As in Red Flag scenarious anything is possible Russian Flankers will represent their Chinese variants J11B and J15. It can be 1v1,2v2,4v4,8v8. If you`d like to take part in such Jousting competition and like the idea of having modern capable and BVR combat effective Flankers feel free to join our Discord: https://discord.gg/5B9yTpM There`s a mission sample file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nvUsZWsAoSb1Sf4d5Q7McsbAI_xPcLlT/view?usp=sharing Check out this test sample mission. Flanker-D has mixed loadout with PL12 and couple 120B missiles for comparison. There is F15 armed with 8 120B missiles going against this Flanker. Flanker`s hud is perfect for such comparisons. You can try out this mission and see for yourself how those two missiles perform. You can replace F15 with other 120B carrying jet of your liking. We have cool cockpit skin for Flanker-D fans in #Files channel. I have flown F15, F18 and recently F16 and got bored of it due to the fact that with all those cool Bluefor jets coming to DCS, Redfor jets becoming less and less relevant. In fact as of today they are inadequate and there is that feeling that they`re there solely for a role of clay pigeons. If there are guys willing to take part in fair Red vs Blue competition you are most welcomed! Cheers!

Is there a hostting you could advice for a small server . I want to make server for the first time anddon`t know much about it. Smallest possible configuration. I tried to find info mhow to run server on a VPS host butfound old guides that where done for old DCS when it didn`t have dedicated server. I want test things out first and learn how to manage such server. Could you point me to relevant info on the topic and maybe share sime tips. Thanks!

Why you repeating my words to me? Can you read english?

Othere Chinese company made game about J-15. https://store.steampowered.com/app/880200/J15_Jet_Fighter_VR_15/ And autorities don`t care about it. Why? Because it is arcade game meaning nobody will be able to fly real J15 after playing this game. Same thing with "Low Fidelity" Non Study versions of J-11B and J-15. You have allready developed all avionics for JF-17. I bet they are pretty close to those of J-11B,J-15. You could make simplified NON CLICKABLE version of this avionics suite and use it for those two jets. Nobody in China would ever care about secrecy of such FC3 modules cos they are in a nutshell same Arcade planes. Just few checkboxes in options menu and DCS becomes Ace Combat. Too Modern argument is irrelevant in this case. You have nothing to worry about exept how much you will spend on developement and earn from them. Math for developement is simple for you guys a tiny fraction of the cost of JF-17 developement . Math for gross revenue of iconic multirole Flanker family LF fighter is couple of dozens of thousands happy Flanker fans and REDFOR enthusiasts in general. Price tag for such module would it be closer to FC3 modules 20 - 30$ will be very affordable and most of those craving for modern multirole Flankers would be happy to pay. I think it`s safe to say that developement cost compared to gross revenue of such module would be much better ratio than what you have for JF-17. Think about MAC when it will come out there will be acute severe shortage of modern capable REDFOR branch jet fighters. This J15 Low Fidelity module is poised for success. With most of AA/AG armament allready present in DCS. I hope you`ll seize this great opportunity before someone else does. Cheers!

What about AI J-15? You anounced it some time ago. Any rough eta on that one? Thanks!

Hi guys! Was wondering how to display custom kill messages with replacing Unit Type in them. If for example bot or client was flying J11A and killed somebody to replace J11A with J11B in kill message, or Su-33 renamed to J15. I`m brand new to lua and DCS scripting in general. I have little C# knowledge. But couldn`t come up with solution on my own. I get that there should be two strings created that would be displayed instead of two original strings. I have no idea on how i should write this function or two separate functions. How it or they would be structured to "intercept" Unit Types of interest and rewrite message to remove original unit and paste fictional instead? Would greatly appreciate any help! Thanks!

Easy to check for yourself i tested on flatlands at the southern part of Caucasus map where Turkish coastal line would be.

Shouldn`t N-011M perform better than N-001?

Look in it`s entry file. it`s there saying RADAR ="N-011M",

I`m talking about AI plane. Check for yourself. You`ll see it.

I tested SU33 and SU27with hot A10A target at 2 km coaltitude. their own N-001 radar detects it at130 km and locks at 115 km SU30s N-011M radar detects at 100km and locks at 93 km JF-17s KLJ - 7 radar detects at 136km and locks at 118km Mig29S N-019M radar detects at 88 km and locks at 76 km

Luckily this mod keeps server IC protected. So that PL12/SD10 on Russian and Chinese planes is the only thing implemented there. Hopefully it will be possible to modify messaging system soon so that it would allow For J11B and J15 names in kill feeds among other places. Not to break immersion) Since we`re not ever getting those jets from "factory" we might as well have fun with diy mockups of them.

You got me wrong man. I said that ability to modify stuff on server side and stay IC clean should be implemented. To have controll from server side on what can and can`t be used there. That would be great thing to have and would allow for more servers with cool mods implemented whithout turning that kind of server into sandbox. Wright now IC option either on or off with no extra options available to modify server in a controlled predictable manner.

Again it`s a fictional scenario where Sino-Russian military cooperation reached new level in formed alliance agaist NATO and those mutual upgrades both for Chinese Air defence systems and Russian air to air capabilities. And we all know how fast all those license limitations and bureaucratic obstacles get overriten in a matter of days when it comes to matters of state survival. Are there techicalities to that? Ofcourse. Is it doable in those circumstances? Ofcourse it is. Again as a FICTIONAL scenario it makes perfect sence))) Take it easy) Cheers!

Well. Good enough for me.Can they do it? They can. Your "unrealistic" mantra doesn`t change that or makes it less possible. After all it`s not about what actually happened. It`s about what potentially could happen. You are against that i get it. You just don`t want this to happen. To have fun with what others consider plausible scenario. And if those jets will be renamed to their respective PL12 carrying variants then it will be even more fun to fly them and splash them. I never intended to insult anybody. Phrase "You are a poison, not a medicine" is not i insult it`s a metaphore that describes the negative outcome of such attitude. You`re too stiff to have fun with it i guess.

Will this one do? Can i take your last post as a yes to this Chinese upgrade possibility for all Red planes as a realistic as it actualy is irl ? Credible enough plot for the Servers with rearmed REDFOR fighters?

I`m calm as a python. I`m merelly describing your input to the matter. There is a way to mod server and make sure only mod made by server is the one being used by clients. It`s still IC protected server. You don`t have to download any mod to play there. Something that should be implemented years ago. The story is there to justify this mod. You say it`s impossible for China to modify russian jets lol. Are you hearing yourself? That`s how they roll man. For deckades now. And it`s a given fact that vanilla FC3 Redfor planes will stay the way they are. What is your concern exactly?

What it is whith you guys objecting to me that this mod should not be official? I`m not ED CEO to make that kind of decisions, i`m not even ED employe lmao. Would i be happy if they tookJ11A slapped PL12 on it and called it J11B , and if ED would do same for SU33 yes i would be pretty happy. And If they shoved another cheapest (salary/ man hours wise) MFD with some stuff on it i would be much more happier. And there are couple of dozens of thousands guys that would be happy about it too. There will allways be sad boys of course that will find million reasons against that. But you forget one thing nobody is forcing you to play them. Low fidelity niche is the place for all kinds of such planes unavaillable in Full Fidelity. Those mockups have their purpose. First of all to train against them. Second to fly them against Blue planes, not to study how to get in to one and fly away in it. It`s a combat simulator not MFS And low fidelity niche serves that purpose perfectly. There is place for mockup planes participating in Red Flag exercises irl. Having J11B and J15 AI and Latest Russian AI Flankers and Migs would be priceless in cases like this. Your "All or Nothing" attitude leaves you with Nothing. Something is beter than nothing however you look at it imho. Honestly it`s because of guys like you they removed DL from Mig 29. You and your "realism" demands from LF planes only make things worse. If you don`t like it than stay out of LF niche with your snobby FF modules and fly Blue on Blue all you want. Redfor enthusiasts like you guys killed FC3. All you do is bringing your negativity into the discussion. No constructive suggestions, no helpfull ideas just constant whining in whatever next thread you happen to stombleupon. You`re not helping here. Infact this is not even your original intention. Nothing is good for you. Nor wiki, neither other resources. The only way we can have capable Red planes is for them to be AI and Low Fidelity. Get used to it. i`ts been a wile now. But instead of incouraging ED to do so. You hit them with your "realism" bs. It would be better if you`d stuck on Blue side honestly. This is no hate speach in no way. I`m just saying that you are being distructive and discouraging to anybody who spends time listening to you. You are the poison, not medicine. You say why instead of why not. You are a gate keepers, not facilitators. Honestly if i had a say in this matter we would have all latest Red Flankers and Fulcrums as an AI planes. And some of them as LF flyable ''Red Flag" kind versions. With minimal cockpit upgrades, new missiles and AG capabilities (borrowed from SU25). This would be a good stem to prepare Redfor for MAC. Coz man will this problem show it`s ugly face in it tenfold.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL-12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-15 Some hints for you to be found if you wish to see them. This is tip of the iceberg. But to resume your passionate text. You are trying to destroy the current plot behind this Flankers upgrade on the server. And what is more painfull for you to see - a Clean server. Unsuccessfully dare i say. Comparing pl12 to meteor. Just say it. You hate the idea behind capable modern day Flanker if it`s not made by ED themselves. You bring cons, i`ve found all the pros i need wich are more than enough to make things happen. I`m trying to make something you trying to brake it. That`s the base line. You can fly your realistic planes on 99% of the servers out there. You don`t have to object as if someone is forcing you to play with us. You are free to make your choice. You see you are not interested what it woul be like to fight J11B or J15. If you`d be eager to know how you`d perform against them youd be happy to join the fight with your F14,15,16,18. You`d look for something new credible enough for you to accept as a guy on receiving end of that pl12. And i will tell you a little secret. When we tested those J11B and J15 Flankers i was flying for Blue side. For me it doesn`t matter that it says that i got splashed by John in SU33 with PL12. For me it`s a J15 coz i want to get as close as possible to fighting J15 as i can. That`s where i begin to form my philosophy. You on the other hand looking for every possible and sometimes inappropriate arguments against that. You are not venturesome pilot looking for fun. You are everithing opposite of what i am. Your ethos leads to a dead end. Mine is making me strive for a solution to my problem. I`m having fun you sitting there trying to spoil it for me. Not intentionally of course. You see you use youre knowledge to close the door i use it for opening it. This dispute could go on forever aand we still have our own opinions. I guess you get or didn`t get what you wanted. I got what i wanted. And i`m getting it good. And it gets better and better the more i devote my time mood and skill to it. I`m having fun with those Mockup Flankers man. And i`m looking for the guys like me to share this with them. Feel free to skip it if it brakes your immersion. Cheers!

We will never get offficial Flanker that can carry PL12 bro as mush as we all want it, it`s not gonna happen ever. Face it. Stop dreaming. Start playing. As for the missile behaviour before it goes pitbull. I had same thing with 120C in F16 yesterday).If you want play J11B and J15 like Flankers this is as close as you ever gonna get. And if you don`t beleive that all Flankers can be retrofitted with PL12 irl. Than do your research. Surf the internet for a couple of months. Man the stuff you`ll find there will bring you to same conclusion i came to. It`s the matter of a political decision and funding to upgrade all Flankers to ANY existing systems and armament developed for them. On "Red Storm Rising" server we just pretended that in a time of war this decision have been made? As it allways have been. It`s a SIno-Russian allied fleet man. That says it all. And if you want legit J11B and J15 and latest versions of Russian Flankers. Well. Read first sentence again.

There are Flankers irl that toss PL12 at you right? It`s just that you can do that in their twins represented in DCS. This is as close as it gets buddy. You`ll never have anything closer to real thing. With or without chaff "bug" you`re dead man against me in my F15,16,18 in a jousting round. Good pilot eats Fox1 era Flankers and Migs for breakfast like a happy meal served in the sky. What difference is it to you what kind of suffix it shows you after J11 really? ALL existing Flankers can be fitted with pylons that carry PL12/SD10. For those carrying r77 you won`t even have to bother yourself with refitting the plane with new pylons coz PL12 developed - surprise- by same company that developed r77 for the same pylon. NPO Vympel. And now that there is one little Clean server where this "Chinese" missile might be thrown at you by Flanker Now that they are no longer a fast food for you, you start throwing all "unrealistic" talk. It only shows that you don`t like the whole idea of Fox3 era Flankers, nor you wish to fight them on equal terms. Someone who really want`s something, is looking for the means to an end. Most others just find excuses.

I think deep down inside you rooting for Reds.Come join us comrade. Enjoy Sino-Russian symbiosis. Help us grow fear in the hearts of enemies of the socialism! Protect the motherland. Join the Red side! Ride the mighty SinoRussian Flankers properly armed with your beloved PL12/SD10. Or if you are hardened capitalist, bored and tired of easy kills, splashing Reds left and right, and looking for a true challenge. And feel that you can put up a decent fight on equal conditions. Test your skills. Arrange duels. We`re waiting for you mister. You`ll have something worth braging about for once! "I splashed buffed Flanker" Very few can do that. Can you do that? Server name is "Red Storm Rising". See you there pilot.

Coz lack of any players really. It was a temporary test server. There`s another little server Called "Red Flag" where Flankers are being upgraded with PL12 and SD10. With SEAD capability on the way. Legend being Sino-Russian military techology exhange . Russian Air defence capability in in return for Chinese Air to Air superiority. But it seems you don`t like the whole idea bihind potent REDFOR . Why bother yourself chiping in? You still have a lot of servers with Red planes being there just for life target exercises. Enjoy) '

Hi Is it possible to rename flyable unit types with this framework? Su27 to J11B, or F14b to F14A?

it`s clean server. See for yourself before posting