ElCuco68

Well, thwarted once again! The guy from Virpil, acting all hurt because I so unjustly accused them of poor customer service, told me to come back today, when the store would be open. I did, and before I could pay, the base was removed from my cart and marked "out of stock". I couldn't even pre-order. I'm done. I'm getting ready to order the FSSB lightning base, and use it with the Warthog grip that I was able to pick up for $50. It will be a better product anyway.

Oh, please kid, regale us with your wisdom about the third-world; I'm dying to hear it! I'll bet the house that you've never even set foot into a third-world country, unless maybe it was as a tourist with your mommy and daddy paying the way. Just to let you know, kid; I've actually BEEN to "third-World" countries, places like Somalia (1993), Cuba (1994), Haiti (1994), and Kosovo in 1998, and carrying a RIFLE instead of a beer and a camera, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm not humbled by the lecturing of some fetus who probably got all of his Worldliness from listening to his college professors, who also think they know something about the World despite never having had any hard contact with it.

So far, I've got pretty much everything I need to squeeze out all the realism DCS is capable of, including Oculus VR goggles. Having tried it using the Oculus, I'm convinced that adding a motion platform with VR would be absolutely breath-taking, and now I'm obsessed with the idea. Once that happens, I go into tunnelvision problem-solving mode to acquire whatever the object of my obsession is, especially when, like this, the above-mentioned object would be considered a non-essential toy by the Treasurer (wife), and the turn-key solutions are very expensive. To that end, I'm committed to finding a DIY means of getting one of these. I have a machine-tool/metalworking shop in my basement, and have built things that were much more elaborate than this, including flying aircraft, so this should be do-able. What I want to do is build a top-notch 6-DOF platform; something very powerful, fast, and accurate. I've already found some builders' forums, and have been asking some questions, but I'm hoping that someone on here might have some background in building one of these as well. As far as I've been able to gather, there are several major types of 6DOF platforms, primarily classified according to whether they use hydraulics or geared motors, as well as other variables. Does anybody on here have any experience with these things?

Yeah, I think I'm done trying to divine their intentions. I know that TM and RealSimulator (they make the "FSSB Lightning" gimbal upgrade for the Warthog grip) are eager and ready to do business and make money. Besides, any company that puts up "Next batch availability: To be determined by VKB HQ.", and just leaves it up there, doesn't deserve my money, or anyone else's, for that matter.

That's pretty much how I do it these days; on an ad-hoc, on-the-fly basis. There was a time when I could keep abreast of all the things that interest me. Now, being a 50-year-old student in medical school, with all of the cognition and memory issues that often come with age, I don't have nearly the time I'd like to spend learning this stuff the way I normally would; via textbooks, tech manuals, etc., so people like you who are willing to help an old man out are a Godsend! Okay, so I did everything like you said, using AI Suite 3, HWInfo, and Prime95, both 26.6 and 29.4. Using 26.6, and setting AI Suite to "group tuning (all cores)", I was able to lower the voltage to 1.36 before I got a BSOD. From there, I set it to 1.37 and ran it for 15 minutes. Temps never exceeded 75 C at this point. Next, I set it to 1.41 volts, and started the later Prime95. I noticed, not long after I started Small fft's, the core votage in HWInfo, as well as the setting in AI Suite,went up to 1.525, even though I had manually set it to 1.41 and hit apply and OK, and the temps went up to about 91 C ! I shut it down (Prime95) the instant i saw this, and brought the voltage way down again, to 1.42. The temps came way down, but the core V reading was at 1.44. I slowly brought voltage down to 1.38, but the reading only came down to 1.41. It crashed at 1.37, so I went back to 1.38 and ran it for 15 minutes without incident, the temps staying below 73 C. I did notice that when the voltage was set this low, only 3 cores were at 100%. Going up to 1.42, all but 1 of the cores were at 100%. I brought the voltage up again to 1.48, hoping to get all cores running at 100%, but by this time, temperatures were getting high again, so I gave up trying to get all cores going at 100%. Running Prime95 version 26.6, all cores were always at 100%. I also noticed, while using 26.6 at 1.375 volt setting (what I settled on), that the indicated voltage was 1.376 while idle, and 1.392 (despite being set at 1.375V), which I thought was odd, being that you said it would run lower while testing. Could this be indicative of a problem? By the way, all tests were with it running at 5.2 GHz. Tell me; given all this, how would you set this up, if you were using Oculus Rift, DCS, and other VR games? Would you make another OC profile, with lower speed and voltage? What speed would you use? 4.8 GHz? Also, I was hoping you could give me some guidance on overclocking/setting up the 1080Ti? Thanks again!

Thank you especially for your help and guidance throughout this process, B.M. !

Could you walk me through this a bit? I'd be lying if I told you I was particularly computer-savvy. I know just enough to get myself into trouble, most likely. I downloaded Windows 10 directly from Microsoft. Considering the gear I have listed below, how would I go about getting prepared for this possibility (boot/recovery disk, back-up's, etc.)? I have the OS on the 1Tb NVMe SSD, along with DCS and my Steam/Oculus games and other flight sims. I imagine that's the one I really need to worry about, whereas I could just unplug the other ones if it gets screwed up, so they're not formatted if I have to use a recovery disc, right? Thanks for your help!

Yeah, I'm going with the Warthog and the FSSB. After all this, I wouldn't buy their product if it gave me a "happy Ending" at the end of every flight.

First of all, pal, I DID contact them directly, as I stated, on several occasions, and never got a response. Either answering emails is beneath their dignity, or their really is only one guy there doing everything, in which case I completely understand not having time for trivialities like that. Second, your "Input" sucked, because, as most people know, the customer ISN'T "the problem" if a customer can't even buy an advertised product. I haven't even had an OPPORTUNITY to be a Goddamned problem! You weren't trying to give "your input" as in, something constructive; you were just looking for an opportunity to be a ball-sack and a troll. Congrats; you win that prize! In fact, you were a ball-sack from pretty much your very first sentence, and more of one with every sentence thereafter. So, it affected you? You see someone with the unmitigated temerity to complain about crappy service, and your sense of social justice indignation DEMANDS that you chime in and set the offender straight? The karmic balance just HAS to be restored, because God knows that people that don't enjoy Western opulence and excess have to have a worldly guy like you take up their cause, because they're backward peasants that aren't sophisticated enough to deal with the occasional irate customer? Well, given their "growing pains", you're gonna have your hands full there! Thirdly, I definitely didn't come on here asking for the opinion of someone like you. Fourth; that was a rhetorical question, genius! And yeah, that feeling's mutual. In fact, I wish I'd never had the profound displeasure of making your acquaintance. But I agree; if you're as much of a nut-sack as you sound like you are, yeah, you're probably better off not knowing me.

Do I need to turn avx on in BIOS when I run the newer Prime95 bwith AVX? How do i go into MSI IRQ mode? What is LOD (PD is a setting in DCS, right?) ? By how much should I lower VCCIO and VCSAA, or how do I go about finding a more appropriate voltage? I'm drawing a blank on ffs for some resason, too. As far as voltages: am I using the applied voltage in HWInfo to set voltages manually, or am I using AISuite to test out voltages, and then going into BIOS after and setting core voltage to whatever stable voltage I find in AI Suite (just guessing that setting voltage in BIOS is more of a "hard" set, or more durable for lack of a better term. That Kaby Lake guide you posted; is that applicable to the Coffee lake too?

I normally am patient, but I've been buying thousands of dollars in hi-speed, low-drag computer parts, and all of the DCS modules so far, and using this crappy Microsoft Sidewinder joystick for the last 6 months or so, and trying to fix a broke used Warthog, waiting for one of these good sticks. I'm dying to see if I can actually land the Harrier without crashing with a decent stick. So, I'll give this another couple weeks, but if it's still anybody's guess, I'm just going to buy a new Warthog, and maybe that FSSB modification.

Yeah, something after having more near-death, and actual death, experiences than i can count, I am more than keenly aware of. And, if you think about it, life being short, and time being precious, is at least obliquely my point. I'm not going to even bother guessing what you decided to delete, but I'll bet it was nothing at all like your last post. Maybe I should ask; if you're the sort that lives by your own advice, what are you doing engaging someone you don't even know, over something that doesn't affect you? Or is that fun?

Actually, looking at the pictures I posted, I actually do have CPU SVID support disabled. That being the case, what should I do with my voltage and other settings, based on the results I posted in those 10 pictures of the HW monitor? Also, while I got you here, what should I do about that fine jittering/vibration, or whatever it should be called, that makes things hard to read or see in VR? This is only present in DCS, by the way.

Okay, I'll use that, and disable SVID. Based on the pictures of the hardware monitor I posted, what voltage do I need to set? Do my other settings look okaY/

Okay, I ran small ffts again for a half-hour, and used the software you recommended. The first 5 screenshots are from during the test, the next 5 are immediately after the test, and the last 12 are pictures of the areas of the BIOS where I made changes before. I honestly couldn't find anything called VSID. Could it be SVID you're thinking of? As for that, there's no off or disable setting, just what type of scenarios, and auto for choices.

I'll look for VSID, though. I'll also post some pictures of my BIOS settings. Looking at the picture above, that ends in ...27.jpg,, which was taken 20 minutes into a small fft test, what would you set CPU core/cache voltage to? If I'm understanding you correctly, I should set to 1.41, because that's what it's saying the max voltage is?

Do you mean SVID? I've got that set to "typical scenario".

"Stay on your toes bro, and maybe find a better attitude along the way. Also, it’s “hurdles,” not “hurtles,,” that a business faces...to my knowledge the latter isn’t even a word in the English language. Not very many people are going to get a better attitude about not being able to divine the right moment to get a product for the last few months (a business problem, not a customer problem) followed by a grammar-Nazi chide about the misspelling of a single word, which has nothing to do with anything, by the way. I'm not exactly a spoiled kid that just doesn't know how good he has it, buut I'll tell you what; if i ever feel like I'm in need of life lessons by someone presumably ollder and wiser, I'll look you up, bro. personally, i think my attitude is just right for the circumstances. I'm far from the first person to complain when things don't go my way. Customer service, however, is definitely an exception for me,being a big believer in merit-based commerce. You being an American should be familiar with that. We tend to spend our hard-earned money where we feel valued, and look with alarm at anyone who thinks we have to adjust our attitude about customer service when we feel we have a legitimate complaint. At least for the time being, we're not yet a socialist dystopia where we feel that a worker's labor is always an invaluable commodity.

You might want to take a look at the website (rest of the World button) that's available here in the US. Almost all of the products, rather than "add to cart", had "notify me when available", which, by the way I did use on about a dozen of your products back around March or April, and I've heard nothing from VirPil. If there are going to be production and/or shipping delays of this magnitude, you might want to invest some time with some automated business software that, once it's configured, will send out boilerplate statements to your customers at any interval you choose, and make a point of updating them, by email, frequently as to what your current situation is, and projections about estimated ETA's of products. I'm telling you, doing this will go a long way at keeping people interested, and keep your very small market pool from spending its money elsewhere on this likely once-in-a-lifetime purchase. Very well then. On October 1st, I'll make a point of getting up early, and being the first person to order. I truly want to be wrong about this.

"There’s more to selling products than design and production. If you have a company like VPC, you have employees, taxes to pay and laws to follow." You don't say? Well, I totally retract everything I said! I had no idea that they had all these hurtles to jump through in their country. I just assumed they used slaves or clones or something, like I do, and claimed charity status when the government goons come around looking for their cut. I know all about the problems that dog every business. I was only accounting for the variables that I felt might be extraordinary. And I definitely have sympathy for the fact that life in general can dump all manner of un-needed grief, complications, and unforseeable events. Believe me, if there's anything I've had to learn the hard way in my 50-year wobbly nightmare of a life, it's that. I also learned that life will run you over and spit you out without so much as a hiccup if you don't get good at getting out of its way, and that in today's cut-throat, instant-gratification global business environment, people want what they want, when they want it, or they go elsewhere, period. Our country's cottage industries are folding every day by the hundreds because they're either not willing or not able to make the paradigm shift. It's tragic, but that's the nature of evolution. I'd honestly, truly like to see these guys succeed, and I mean that with all sincerity. I'm not on here saying that these guys should be flogged to within an inch of their life and have their birthdays confiscated. I'm saying that not everyone is okay with waiting months or years for a product, especially when there's no readily-apparent end in sight. Should I NOT say what I know beyond a shadow of a doubt isn't just on my mind? Personally, I'd want to hear about it if I was running a business, and some of my customers felt the way I do. If I didn't, well, that would mean I didn't care if they felt that way, no?

Oh, okay. So I misunderstood. " Maybe I can help" wasn't an actual offer to be helpful, just more trolling.

Maybe I should have made two separate posts; one for your company, and one for VKB. I'll cop to hat, and that only. This is what I was referring to https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=gunfighter-mk-ii Unfortunately, you and VKB are pretty much the only ones making these upper-tier controls, and given that you both seem to have a problem keeping stock on hand that's more the rule than the exception, so you're probably going to get lumped in together. This situation is what it is, and for whatever reason or combination of reasons that it's occurring, we don't have to like it, but we have to live with it or go pound sand, right? Well, just the same, if this hit-or-miss availability is going to be the norm, you're just going to have to accept that your customers or potential customers may not all be okay with it, and may complain. Your only other recourse if you don't like people complaining about having to wait for months or years for your products (and that is the reality of it, or at least it is for a significant portion of your customers) is to abandon this particular business venture or, as we were always told when I was part of a marine infantry battalion, "adapt, improvise, and overcome". Similarly, if we don't like the wait, our only recourse is to find another product. That said, you're apparently saying to me that I should have no problem obtaining, in a timely manner, essentially everything except the Mongoose base once your Worldwide store opens up again on 1 October? If so, what do I need to do to ensure I get a crack at a T50CM stick and Warbird base? Are you able to take my credit card info now, or on 1 October? Because I'll recant everything I said here, and even write something to the effect of "I was wrong; these guys are the bee's knees and the cat's pajamas" along with a photograph of me eating my words in my tighty-whitys on this forum.

As a matter of fact, I did have LL set to 6, and pretty much everything else as you stated. Here's a series of pictures during a Prime95 version 26.6 small fft test, about 20 minutes into it. I had to scroll up and snap a new picture to get everything off of HW monitor. Temps never exceeded 80 C, and usually stayed in the low to mid-70s.

I forgot to mention; I'm getting a fine jittering in VR, like a small vibration that makes things blurry when you look at them. This began after the overclock.

Actually, that's far from his best video. I've been following him; he makes very elaborate jet engines in his very basic machine shop, often using salvaged parts from cars and other unrelated things. He's brilliant!