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You started it the whole debate by calling it ugly IIRC! :lol:

As opposed to the one sided English langauge ones? :huh: I can assure you, most UK media to do with the subject ever since takes a very 'balanced' view, in most cases it is criticisied for being too 'left wing' and anti Thatcher/war etc so sorry but I don't buy that you are in some way more enlightened because of your documentaries. Is it not just as possible that Spanish language documentaries have agendas? - I don't neccessarily think they do by the way, but I can't see how you can imply critisim to English ones on the same basis. This is also borne out by the fact that most of your points in relation to the engagements have already been accepted as accurate in this debate by both, even us who only have the benefit of propaganda ;)

Facts as I see them thus far from this debate - 1. Early engagements went sufficiently well against the Argentinians to change their tactics - had it failed in this and been the dog of a fighter that it should be as A2G platform then as Nigel Ward (indeed, excellent book) said, the ability to protect the fleet would have been over-run fairly quickly. This could be considered a failure on behalf of the Argentinians, true, but to deny the Harrier recognition entirely in this respect here is unfair. 2. It did perform better 'than expected' against air superiority fighters, I have read this twice in different places. 3. It would get whooped 9 times out of 10 by modern fighters, obviously. 4. It's not particularly 'beautiful' in a conventional way, but holds appeal more as a deisgn classic. But two points thus far missed - When was the 'Kestrel' first tested - 1960? My bet is then, and up to the 70's, it could have been a very comparable A2A jet. I might be wrong on this but I'm sure I read that it's use of vectored thrust allowed even better performance and unmatched manouvres in VR confrontations... Anyway, can we not agree that for a primarily tasked ground attack airframe (and the only option A2A for the RN in '82) the Harrier was 'surprisingly' decent in the A2A role?

If I may refer the honouroble Mr M to the Falklands war when 20 Sea Harriers held off the entire Argentine AF, as referenced by my esteemed colleague Mr Vault. Argentine pilots nicknamed it the 'Meurte Negra' (sic) or 'Black Death'. Mirage III's? Still pretty impressive. Ok, so now most 4th + generation fighters may prevail but considering the harriers apparently questionable dynamics they'd still get quite a scrap! In fairness, probably a jack of all trades, master of none. The USAF at one stage said they didn't want it because they questioned it's payload - they said 'it couldn't carry a coke bottle round an airfield' or something like that! Edit: beat me to it V!

Vault - was 100% with you until you mentioned the T10, I would put that in the less attractive of harriers!

See - beautiful!

Well, consider offence taken! :D That's so unfair! The GR5/7 & SHAR Mk1 are great looking. Granted this incarnation with its big nose, and possibly the snoutish GR3 aren't as pretty. Still better than the Yak anyway. ;)

Yeah - what DS said, take notes. I watched the training missions and jotted a few reminders down and after a few runs of my own I was ok at the basics of target aquisition and weapon delivery. I have no idea why the ABRIS is there still other than to show me my route (I can change waypoint) but thats about it. Same with the PVI800, not much of a clue there either! That said I still have flown and completed 3 campaigns (quite) easily, with a low spec rig as well I might add. Now I can fly and fight and have got slightly bored of this I'm going back to learn manual start up and ABRIS. You don't have to know as much as you think at the start to get a lot out of this sim. Plus - ask on the forum - you'll get few unhelpful 'rtfm' snipes but if you exhausted a search or the sticky's first for your problem you'll get an answer.

Did the trick for me! Only had to shoot down one this time, and I just about managed that. :)

Can't we have a 'what kind of thread do you want to see next' thread? This has been done to death! zzzzz Tornado btw ;)

About to try - any tips of what I should prioritise with the new triggers?

It detects the motion of your head so you can 'look' around the cockpit, zooming in and out as well. Rather than use the mouse. I don't have it (yet) but everyone raves about it so it won't be long before I'm in the club. This sim has the best cockpit interaction and realism already - so I imagine it's unbelievably good with track ir. The only way I know to 'duck out' of the screen is to press 'alt-tab' which minimises and switches you to desktop. That might work?

People will get suspiscious of your joystick, throttle and track-ir though! Unless your job is a UAV pilot ;) Arf! Sorry, no practical advice as I don't know :(

Nice one Eddie, might not be as pretty but the GR4 looks mighty fine. :thumbup:

Or see 'City of God' DVD for further information. Mega film :thumbup:

Expertly argued Lucas but couldn't agree with you less.;) ED could model a flying bathtub and I'd fly it. I'd never have picked a KA50 before experiencing it. One thing at a time, whatever they can do that they can do justice to, and don't rush it we want it just right, just like BS. The great thing is about ED they don't seem to be too worried about commercial demand and I think that is what makes BS so good, the focus and only doing something they know they can nail. Oh look you've got me involved on one of those threads I can't stand! :doh:

Agree, but lets face it anything ED do either fixed wing or heli will be amazing judging by BS. But also - and it seems I'm in a minority here but how many threads should there being saying the same thing...'I wonder what they will do next/I want x'. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz already! When they do one they'll tell you. Go back to the earlier threads, the ED team got involved and fed back when they had news but now I bet they're like jeez not another 'Hurry up with A10' or 'where's my Apache'... Should be another forum for 'mindless speculation and dreaming'. IMHO of course! Like I say judging by the raft of responses every time I'm on my own... I'll go and be grumpy somewhere else now.

They've even managed to screw up the new GR(AW) games - though not quite as bad as COD. Sorry to drift but whatever happened to stalking out a large map with many different ways to accomplish your goal. Some of the night missions in GR were actually scary and when you got shot you'd sh*t yourself, not to mention have to restart the entire level. I've heard that Op Flashpoint is supposed to be close- can anyone confirm that (for Xbox) - My PC too slow for that, only just manages BS!

^Original Ghost Recon on XBox^.

Thanks guys -I'm gonna save up now, dem things ain't cheap! Looks awsome on the youtube vids I've seen. Can't wait. Anyone got any good UK stockists with good deals?

Hi two quick questions: 1. Firstly my Rig I don't think is the quickest so how resource hungry is TIR? Will it slow down things at all? 2. Also - which one should I get, is the 5 version worth the extra? Thanks in advance!

Joey's bookclub! Spider, check out this page. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=44435 Wholeheartedly agree about Rasmus' books, both I've read are great.

Vulcan at Manchester airport 27/9/09

I only know about 10 key commands, between mouse point and click, and 12 joystick buttons I'm sorted. Easy!

I had a similar question a couple of weeks back, GGT in reply 7 went some way to explaining. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=44850 Hope it helps - The Oil War ones seem to be set up a bit different to the Deployment campaign which is a little more scripted (IMHO better) and seem to try and ape dynamic based camaigns, but in effect just become a tad more repetetive. These more open outcome missions are probably more like real conflicts however.