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Very good to know. I have found previously, people usually recommend Hardware that they own, simply because they have recent experience with that Hardware and have good current info. When I saw you recommended the i7, but ran with an i5, I was wondering if you purchased the i5 but later wished you had gone i7. Or if it was exactly because of the reason you gave. You have a really good i5 that has suited your needs and you dont need to upgrade. But felt an i7 would be better suited to what I am asking. I take it as a very positive sign that your CPU is a few years old and you are still completely happy with it. I havent felt like that about any of my AMD processors after even 2 years. So switching to Intel, although more expensive, could end up saving me money and hassle in the long run.

Thanks for your advice. Ideal situation for me at the moment would be to patch up this system and keep plugging on for as long as it can handle. I've considered finding a new Processor of the same make to replace the one I have. And although it would leave me with a functioning PC, I still need to replace my Power Supply because it is too close to minimum requirements for my liking. I have a 625Watt Power supply, but my video card alone requires a minimum of 550Watts. In my mind, that doesnt leave a lot for the rest of the system, even under no load at all. That would cost me about $400-$500. And in the end, with new parts, its still an old computer system with ever diminishing ability to be upgraded. It's only a SATA II motherboard and I have a 6Gbit SSD on my system. But because its only SATA II, its capabilities are halved to 3Gbit ( on my system as it stands, its more like 2.1Gbit ) It seems like a waste of good potential to me. I really only have two basic options 1. Patch this system as best I can and hope I will have the money to upgrade again later this year ( not too likely ). Or 2. Try as best I can, to predict the type of system I may need and make that move now while I have the finance's to do so. That means I only have to try and save money for 1 upgrade this year. ( I can handle that ) Admittedly, it does leave me open to buying a system that is not compatible with the way EDGE will work. And it may need futher upgrading to accomodate EDGE when the time comes. Or I may just have to accept the consequences of my upgrade and move on. It is a gamble that I am not happy about having to make it. If I had any potential what-so-ever of earning a little money with my PC when EDGE came out, then DCS would be a major consideration and I would wait until EDGE's performance and requirements were a lot more certain. But seeing as that isn't very likely at all, I have to look at getting a System that will be mostly geared towards HD video production and some 3D animation creation. Those type of features can earn me an income. If DCS Pre and Post EDGE will run nicer than I have now,on that system, then it is Win all round. Even if it is not the best performance available. As making DCS videos is just a hobby of mine, it must not be the major consideration in the Upgrade. I would have preferred for my PC to wait until EDGE came out because then I could kill 2 birds with one stone. But at the rate my Processor is Degrading, I don't have the luxury of being able to wait anywhere up to another 12 months before EDGE is implimented, Beta Tested and Stabilized. I'm not even sure I have 2 months of reduced duties left in it.

Both of the facts you presented above have been weighing very heavily on my mind. As I am not strictly building a DCS Machine, EDGE is only part of my consideration. And as you pointed out, with its potential performance being somewhat unknown, I can't make any decisions based soley on that. I'm more looking to improve my performance in mutiple area's and find a system that can, on average , cope with what I would like to do with it. Also, I am looking for a platform, that once EDGE comes out, it will be a good foundation for any adjustments that may need to be made to make it more compatable, without a rebuild. And seeing as there is no set release date for EDGE at this point in time, if I were to wait, I would have to switch my PC off and not use it until EDGE is released. My Poor old CPU is really sufferring high temperatures ( we are in winter here ) and is beginning to show some early warning signs that all is not well. I am sort of damned if I do, and damned if I don't. If I upgrade before EDGE I will have some time to get used to a new system and its average performance. That way, once Edge is introduced, I will have some hope of knowing what is happening in my system if it all goes pear shaped But that same action could doom me bad performance because I didn't wait. ( no offense intended E.D.I have total faith in you even when things are not so great ). The time factor is the major problem I have right now, but I am not gonna rush into making any hasty decisions. Thanks for that advice. I am getting a really good basis to work from with information like you supplied. When you are faced with so many choice's, its not easy to pick. But when you see common advice, you start to see a much clearer picture. Thanks for you advice. I am mostly only considering and i7 for HD video render capabilites as was advised by another member. After doing a fair amount of research today, I was starting to agree. Do you have any suggestions of a CPU that would be a much better alternative ? An i5 maybe? I'm open to any advice you can offer. I'll thank you anyway, because your advice and help really does mean a lot to me. It may be simple knowledge to you and you may not think much of offering that advice. But to someone who needs advice like that.....it is GOLD. You've suggested alternatives, that I am not knowledgeable enough to figure out on my own. Thats why your advice is appreciated very much.

Dang! I really hoped to avoid something like that. I have $1100. The upgrade I was looking at pushed my budget to $1700. I really didnt want to replace my windows or ram. Even though they are not a major part of the expense, it's all the little dribs and drabs at the end that I didn't think of and they will end up pushing my budget over $2000. On the side, I am looking to get my commercial RC Quad Heli clearance so I can work as an Ariel Photographer. I don't even have the Quad yet. As I am on a low income, I sort of have to decide between one or the other. PC or RC? Not an easy choice. RC can earn me money and I have a lot of experience in RC, but 1 thumb-slip and it could cost me just as much or waaaaay more. The PC can't really earn me any money ( I'm not very experienced ), but after the initial expense, it's hardly likely to cost me anything for a couple of years. RC is almost a daily expense. :( Thanks for your help. I really glad you spotted my mistake with the board. I may have to either switch to a CPU that will match that combo. Or find another board as you suggest above. I'll have a good look and see what I find. Thanks for taking the time to look into that for me. I really appreciate that. Sorry to hear you are in the same boat mate. If this thread can be of some help, then I am more than happy to post that information and answer whatever further questions you may have. As you can probably tell, I am no expert so I may need a hand finding where all the new stuff is ;) But I would be happy to help in any way I can. Maybe, if you find yourself a little ahead of where I am ( you upgrade before me ) please let me know how you went, if you have the time. I am hoping to get the Upgrade done within the next 2-4 weeks, but I have some surgery coming up that may throw a spanner in the works. If I end up having to have surgery in the next week or two, it may be several weeks before I am back on deck. I am not sure of my recovery time at this point. Thanks for taking an interest in this thread though, and if it ends up helping you in your decision, then cool. Glad I could help. :)

To start with, I would like to thank you all for your input. This time yesterday I was in full panic mode when I found that my processor is in the....er...process of failing. I was hoping to be able to wait until EDGE is released before deciding to upgrade, so I could judge what sort of performance is needed v's how much I can afford. After having to go to bed and sleep on it, I woke up fresh today and hit the net hard. I soon found that what I can afford, really doesn't have much to do with it. No matter what I do, it's gonna hurt. So I may as well go for broke and get something that will impress me, rather than just buying the minimum requirement for my needs. I think that that may be the key to why I could never get the Eye-Candy into my videos. I was buying the bare minimum and hoping for performance that just wasn't gonna be there. After a fair bit of research and watching many video's, I have come up with a system upgrade that I think may meet my needs ( maybe even exceed them a little ). ( Again, links are provided for reference only. ) Intel Core i7 5820K 3300Mhz ( http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-5820K.html ) Intel Motherboard DZ87KLT-75K Extreme ATX ( https://dstore.com.au/buy/intel-desktop-board-dz87klt-75k-extreme-atx-ddr3-1600-lga-1150-motherboard-boxdz87klt75k-16145364?utm_source=myshopping_AU&utm_medium=cpc ) Seasonic X-1250 80Plus Gold 1250W ( http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_972&products_id=18807 ) Corsair Hydro Series H110 280mm CPU Cooler ( http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_45&products_id=22790&zenid=5cfbe30b17235973913829600c8f207e ) So that would change my system quite significantly and I would be interested to see what you all think of the set up I have listed. Below would be my future System Stats if I go through with the above upgrade. Can anyone spot anything askew? Or just plain wrong? Can anyone guesstimate if this set up would be a good match for what I require? FUTURE SYSTEM SPECS Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit Intel i7 5820K 12.00 GB 1600mhz 12800 Ripjaw ( most likely will reduce to 6 Gig due to less memory slots ) Intel Motherboard DZ87KLT-75K Extreme ATX SAMSUNG SSD 830 Series 256Gig SSD Western Digital 2TB HDD AMD Radeon HD 7950 3Gig Thrustmaster Warthog Saitek Combat Pro Pedals AOC V27m 27 inch LED Monitor. Logitech G-15 V1 Keyboard Razor Naga Mouse Storm Scout PC Tower TrackIr 5 + Trackclip Pro Seasonic X-1250 80Plus Gold 1250W Corsair Hydro Series H110 280mm CPU Cooler I don't expect answers I could set in stone and hold you accountable for. I'm just trying to gauge by reaction, wether I have made some good choices, or if I need to be looking into this a lot further because I am misunderstanding how it all works. When buying a new PC, I usually like to do what I call 'Futureproof' my PC. I usually try to get higher end parts with the latest technology so that it remains current technology, for as long as possible. But with my limited understanding, it's hard to pick I feel that if the above combination is a winner, it would probably be my best candidate and will go ahead and shred my wallet. :) All input is welcome, even if you have bad news. I appreciate all the advice offered so far, and hope that I, in turn, will be able to help you all out sometime. Thanks for your time. I know I type a lot but I really try not to. :)

@Skatezilla and outlawal2. Thankyou very much. That's some very helpful testimonials from you both. I too have been worried about the future of AMD and have always supported them, partly because of pricing, and partly because I never had any problems with AMD.....until my last system upgrade which didn't yield the expected results. After much head scratching and dirt kicking, I started to find out why AMD and Intel are so different. I was quite disappointed I didn't switch then, but that upgrade cost about $1300 and I just had to wear it. :( I swore next time my PC became too old, I would look at switching. My PC is mostly still good, but just not going to be able to keep up for long. My processor is on the way out, so it was either buy another processor for my motherboard ( of the same age ), and just give up on making videos. Or find another answer. I really enjoy making videos and I would hate to give that up. But I can't keep making videos that make DCS look flat and really quiet for a combat simulator. Ironically, I have 1 video posted on YouTube, that I think is the worst DCS video I have ever made. It's hitchy, glitchy , the wrong resolution and bit rate and frame size, but years later, still gets more views in 1 day, than many of my more recent videos do in an entire week or lifetime. Made with a garbage computer and all. If I remember rightly, it was a Dual Core Celeron. I have been trying for a long time to undo that injustice I created with that video. :)

Lol. No need to ask you what your experience is. Definately a lot more than mine. :) And your advice is very much appreciated. An i5 or i7 would be my choice too as the chipset architecture is reportedly much better than previous versions. If I can convince my budget 'It can be done ' then I think that would be my choice. I like the sound of 'can't go wrong '. :) AMD has been great for me, but for as long as I have owned them, I have been on an eternal quest for a good video. And so far, haven't found it. Maybe the switch is what I need. Thanks for your time. :)

Thankyou very much for both the information and compliment. I wasn't fishing for compliments, but its nice to see someone other than my girlfriend likes my videos. I don't even like my videos by the time I have finished making them. I really only post about 5-10% of the videos I make. I think my videos can be a bit pale and limp in comparison to the True DCS experience. But it doesn't stop me trying :) The first video I ever made on a PC was with Lock On. I never had internet, but that wouldn't matter much as there was no youtube. :D MAN! I feel old all of a sudden :( Its pretty hard to ignore benchmark results when comparing AMD to Intel. If the price to go Intel, would work out to be similar to going the AMD route I have in mind, I would dive for an Intel and bite anyone who tried to take it off me. I just have to balance the costs of the parts I need, so they all fit within a budget I can handle. By getting some Varied results here, so far, I have been able to narrow down some options which has helped a lot. It doesn't help that Intel has about 20 i5 processors to choose from. And even more i7's :( I have a hard choice. If I can only afford to add a little more Eye-Candy to my videos, then I would definately go for an AMD to get the better render speeds so those flat looking videos can be made a lot quicker. But if my budget stretches far enough, that I could add a decent amount of Eye-Candy to my videos, then I would be happy to wait all day for that render to come out. And I am not talking about wanting to run it at MAX settings. Set at MAX, I would drool too much to get anything done. I noticed you recommend the i7, but run on an i5 yourself. Just wondering if the i5 is letting you down in some way. And if there was a particular i7 Processor you have in mind as an example of what you think may be suitable for making videos in DCS. I have looked up the i7's and i5's, as they seem to be the most common for gaming use. But because there are so many different versions of them both, it makes it hard to narrow down your choice, without just blind buying one and hoping for the best. I could just buy the most expensive one in the list to guarantee it, but then it could be massive overkill and I could have managed a decent upgrade for $500 less. I have been trying to research benchmarks and reviews to gain some perspective, but I find that many of them are either bias ( because the company paid them to write a positive simple review for people who want to access their emails ), or its gaming websites where liquid cooling and Liquid Nitrogen seem to be the minimum requirements for any new computer. I very much appreciate everyones advice so far I thank you for taking the time to answer my niave questions. Hopefully something stands out to me soon as a winner, and I can start making videos that I might even like :) All feedback is welcome.

Thankyou very much. I have researched quite a lot about PC Hardware ( I barely stop and I still know nothing ), but my biggest problem is that have been intel/nvidia before and it was an extremely expensive lesson. The Graphics card was 2nd highest of its time ( admittedly, many moons ago ) and it cost me $937.....just for the card. The whole PC cost me just under $4000. It took me nearly 3 years to save for it and the card burnt out within 6 months. It was replaced with an AMD Card at $185 and it lasted the next 3 years. That hurt a whole lot. :O Ever since then, I have been hesitant to go intel/nvidia again as I have had 2 PC's since that time and they cost me One Third the price....but never quite ever hit the mark. Having high performance for Rendering Large HD video files was really important to me, especially for making DCS video's. But I'm not sure about the price of the upgrade v's interest in my videos. I'm not much of a gamer, but make a lot of videos and work constantly on improving quality and substance. DCS is really the only program I see pushing my system at all because the few games I do have, don't really push it much at all. It's mostly just video rendering time that is my problem. For example, Taking a Sabre to the Enemy, took around 50-60 hours to produce.My other video P-51D Mustang Kickin Covoys. took in excess of 100 hours. If I was able to put some more action in my videos, they may get watched a little more. Better camera views, things like that. But at this point, the few views I use, push my system and hitch and glitch it right up. I'm not game to create and custom views because FPS goes south real quick. ( my processor is the bottleneck ). And if I reduce graphic settings to improve performance, I have to turn it all the way down to ugly, just to get stable FPS. Most of my consideration, is not so much the gaming side of things, but more the rendering side of things. I am also looking to learn 3D modelling with 3DSMAX. So I am sort of wanting the best of both worlds, without buying the Best in the world. Probably an impossible choice :) Thanks for all your advice so far. you are helping me a lot. :)

Cool. Excellent. Thats one good thing to hear so far. Thankyou. I was thinking I may have to email tech support and all that stuff, before being able to register again. I keep forgetting about the Activations and Deactivations because once its installed, DCS isn't going anywhere. Last time I activated it was about 2-3 years ago, and I don't think the activation system was in place the time I upgraded before. DCS World didn't exist yet :( But I'm glad to hear it should go smoothly on that part. :D

Hi All. I'm wondering if I may be able to get a little advice from some more knowledgable members on the forum, about upgrading my PC. MY CURRENT SPECS ARE IN MY SIG. I am looking to upgrade the Processor, Motherboard and Power Supply. Because of such a major change to my system, I already think I may have some registration issues with my DCS products. But with any option I pick, I think it will be the same thing. The Power Supply is an easy fix, it's a 1200w Gold Seasonic Modular. Pretty standard there. Where I am having trouble is picking a Processor and Motherboard. I am looking at 2 processors :- AMD 8 Core FX Series 8320 Black Edition 3.5Gig ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285 ) AMD 8 Core FX Series 9370 Black Edition 4.4Gig ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113346 ) PLEASE NOTE:- Links are for reference only. I'm not looking to buy it from there. Same with the links provided for the motherboards below. The questions I have on these are not technical, more user related. 1. Does anybody here on the forums, have any experience with either of these Processors and using DCS? If so, do you like it? And do you make any DCS videos? 2. Is water cooling necessary with either of these processors? ( by necessary, I mean essential, not just recommended, but HAS to have it. ) If yes, then I need to research some more. :( I have a very bad relationship with electricity/electrical appliances, and do not like the idea of adding liquid to the mix. :) The motherboards I am looking at :- Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.0) ( http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4455#ov ) Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 (rev. 1.x) ( http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3891#ov ) Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 (rev. 3.0) ( http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4658#ov ) 1. Does anybody have any experience with any of these Motherboards? 2. And if possible ( in a brief explanation ) what's the deal with the -UD* part of the product code. Anything to do with performance? Or just an I.D code? Being naive, I would assume a bigger UD number, would indicate a higher potential in performance or function. ( That'll probably make a few people laugh ) I know very little about Motherboards ( just general knowledge, no technical knowledge ) and would just like to know wether any of them is a decent board, or if there is a better alternative out there. The one I have at this point in time is fine, nothing wrong with it ( other than being only SATA II and I need SATA III ). I would prefer to leave it as-is, but that severely limits the type of processor I could upgrade to. And it's really my processor that is having a problem. The reason I ask all this is the usual reason....cost. It's going to cost me about $1100 to upgrade my PC. I don't want to buy a lemon, but I also don't want to go cheap. I have found in the past, if you go cheap, you'll be going cheap about every 6-12 months. Go expensive and you'll get longer out of it and it will be more reliable. I have also found that if it hurts to hand over the money, then it would want to be good. On my income, it doesn't take much before it starts to hurt. So before I go and blow a heap of cash, I would like to know if there are some 'More informed' members on here who wouldn't mind offering a little advice, to help me get a little more bang for my buck. If I need to spend more.......I will, but won't be happy about it for a while after. But if the performance is much different to what I have now, then that will help to numb the pain a bit. :D Any advice you all could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. P.S. I realize that Intel Processors are the preferred processor for just about everything as AMD suffer a bit. But I have been in the AMD groove for about 8 years and would need some convincing to switch to Intel and Nvidia. I have nothing against them other than I have no idea how to troubleshoot and manage an Intel and Nvidia, so if I went that direction, everything I have managed to cram in my grey matter about AMD's would be useless.

As much as I would like to see any of the above aircraft ( in the Poll )in DCS today, I have also dreamed of having The Boeing CH-47 Chinook. Sling loading, Door Gunners, Paratroopers, supply drops, troop transporting, muti-player compatible....... It might be only me, but all that appeals to me. :) Not to mention, if it was possible , it would really demonstrate DCS WORLD capabilities to the world. But , of course , it would highly depend on how the program handles the multi-rotor set up it has.

I too have seen this with the Mi-8. I have the key commands set up to a 4 way hat switch on my TM Warthog and once switching this dial all the way to the top, it will not cycle back the other way. I have found that it will respond to right clicking with the mouse, but gets stuck in the top position each time I use the Hat Stick. As above, cycling from I to VI and back again is fine, but go 1 click too far and you have to use the mouse. I haven't tried the actual Keyboard to see if that is the same or not. :/

Taking on Ground Targets in a high wind really takes a lot more effort to line up. This was the first time I was able to clear all my targets and do a reasonable job of it. I hope you like the show. :pilotfly:

Thankyou very much. I'm lovin the Sabre and this was just a lucky run. A very lucky run. :D The camera angles make my flying look a lot better than it really is. Thank goodness :D

Hi All. :) The more I fly this amazing plane, the more I want to fly it. It has just enough Technology to help me Aim and shoot, but not enough to confuse me about the simple art of flying a plane and having fun. I'm no Ace and definately have a lot more to learn, but each time I fly the Sabre, I have a blast. Thankyou E.D and Belsimtek for this great addition to DCS WORLD and to my Daydreams. :D Here's a short video of me havin a blast. I hope you enjoy the show. :) P.S. I sooooo can not wait to see this beauty in EDGE. :pilotfly:

Excellent. Thankyou Thanks Flagrum for checking that out for me. You are correct. I did read your post and suspected it may be related, but as I was not using 'Unlimited Weapons', I was not sure if the problem was just limited to that. I tried your suggestion and had 100% success. Lights were lit and all. ( .trk file below ) Just prior to seeing your post, I started the scenario in the same manner, changed the loadout from the Fuel tank to the 1x500kg bomb. I took off and dropped it as in the previous track files. I then landed, re-armed with 4x500kg bombs and tried the same proceedure. No luck. And never saw the Lights lit up at either time. Out of curiosity, I did run a Repair on DCS in case, and the situation has not changed. At least now I know that I am doing the right thing when trying to drop a bomb. When it seemed so simple, it was kinda frustrating to not be able to drop the 50kg bombs.:joystick: DCS FW-190 D-9.Yes.Now I can Drop 50kg Bombs.trk

Interesting...... Just for comparison, I loaded the exact same scenario, but this time I switched the Drop Tank for the 500kg bomb. Using the same procedure as I used in the previous .trk file, I tried to release the 500kg bomb. I noticed the Lights above the fusing Switch was not lit again, but on the first push of the Release Weapons button, the bomb released as expected and exploded upon impact. If others are following the same procedure and are able to release the 4x 50kg bombs, maybe something is borked in my installation? I'll try a repair and see if that makes any difference at all. Shame I didnt think about that before posting :/ DCS FW-190 D-9.I can drop the 500.trk

Still Can't drop a Bomb After reading the above information, ( "Wagerecht" (flat attack angle) -> 0-30 degrees dive angle ) I again started a mission of my own making and tested to see if I could drop a 50kg bomb. I followed the directions as per the Manual, and while flying "relatively " level and using the above fuse setting, I am unable to drop a bomb, nor figure out what I am missing. I have supplied a .trk file of the flight in hope's someone may have the time to watch it and help me figure out what I am doing wrong. In the .trk file, I take off, turn around and fly level-ish, I set up ( what I understand to be the required settings ) and try dropping a bomb. I show the button responding as expected and switch to an external view to demonstrate that the bombs are not releasing. During these shots, I am continuously pressing the Release Weapon button. I have also watched a few video's ( including the recommended video above ) and I have noticed 1 glaring difference that tells me I am missing something. Above the fusing selector switch, there are a series of lights. I noticed in the video above, that prior to dropping the bomb, that light was lit up. After dropping the bomb the light goes out. At no time have I seen that light lit when I am trying to drop a bomb. Obviously there must be a power switch or circuit breaker I am missing. Can anyone spot what I am doing wrong ? Apart from forgetting to set Take Off Trim and almost forgetting my landing gear upon landing ( and my best landing yet :D ), what am I doing wrong ? If anyone has the time to check it out, I would be very grateful for your help :joystick: DCS FW-190 D-9.Cannot Drop Bombs.trk

I'm not having much trouble straifing targets on the ground ( other than holding the rudder in a steady position ) , but bombing seems to be beyond me for some reason. No matter which position the fusing switch is in, nor angle of attack, can I get any of the 4 bombs to release. Even while flying straight and level. I have followed the directions in the Manual to the very letter. :( Usually, when I have something like this happen, it usually means there's a tiny little switch ( or dirty big one ) right in front of me that will fix the problem. I tried for about 1 hour today and I could not get a release. :(

I've had the same problems too. I've tried the fusing selector in all positions and at the same time, tried it at many different angles of attack within peramaters, and still no luck. I see the button depressing, no luck. I even checked to see if the Rocket arming switches were involved. No luck. I've also made sure to be holding the nose straight, no luck. Also short and long push's on the Release button don't seem to help me either The only way I have been able to release a bomb was to hit the emergency jettison. :(

Wow! Thanks for the info I too find it a little weird. Considering how advanced this plane was for its time, I would have assumed Aileron and Rudder Trim would be a given. :joystick:

I'm not really having much trouble with Up Trim, but is there really No Trim for Rudder or Horizontal Trim? I ask as I am setting up my Warthog and can not find key commands for these functions. I read the flight manual and it doesn't refer to these functions either. A little confused, but lovin it :D

Video for those who couldn't view my .trk file As well as the Dora, I am forever grateful to Eagle Dynamics and Partnered Companies, for the ability to alter a Track file as I and many other do all the time. It never cease's to amaze me, just how much you miss seeing when flying in cockpit view. And thanks to the Hard Work of the E.D and Partners, even poor flying can come out looking great with a little camera work. I just wish I was much better with the camera's :D Thanks everyone.:pilotfly:

LOL. Pheeeew!!! I thought I would add my first Take Off and Landing. Its not pretty and I am probably not using the right Technique, but I got her off the ground and back again in one piece. I will also upload the video to youtube for those who are working. I feel sorry for you all :( I can see I need a LOT of Practice with this one. Thank you E.D for the Dora. She's a great addition. To see such Variety coming to DCS WORLD makes me happy. I may not be crazy about all of the Aircraft, but flying them all, each with their own nuances, helps you fly them all individually much better. And in the end, you end up crazy about all of the Aircraft. :pilotfly: DCS FW-190 D-9.My First Take Off and Landing.trk