OK, a negative post for a change.

Pet peeves du jour:

 

1) The AI, particularly ground units, is dumb as bricks. Any plan to better those?

 

2) Belsimtek really should finish the choppers (as in taking care of omissions such as the missing Huey engine heat damage model etc.) before moving on.

 

3) The development in general has _really_ been back-and-forth wrt say missions containing any logic previously working well, but then not at all after an upgrade. Is this thing in a perpetual beta or what?

 

4) The moderation is too light-handed :megalol: (OK, that was a joke... maybe)

 

Discuss - or ban :huh:

How 'bout we try something new this time and just let sleeping dogs lie. :music_whistling:

Hah :D Thanks Wags.

Now see what you did there!

I've gotten used to see c0ff being dragged out of his caffeine-flooded cave, but you managed to get the big boss here. Run!

 

:)

 

 

Side-note (and not intended to annoy): Are "Edge" and "2.0" synonymous or is someone pulling another Duke here?

1- AI can always be improved, please feel free to list specific items in the AI problems sub forum.

Ah! But therein lies the rub, in that wrt AI it's actually a generic problem. The whole series has great promise, but some things such as the infantry not searching cover but just standing there while getting fired at is just daft. Now I don't know what you guys have cooking ATM, but things like this just have to be taken care of at some point, no? But then I'm sure y'all at chez ED know this too...

EDGE is a part of 2.0.0

Cheers. Can't rep you up, so have a +1 for masterly deconflicting a rigged post.

Nah, forget the personality cult thing there Sith, your response was fine IMHO.

As a side note, I like to point out that I feel like a real crappy opening act for someone like the Stones... with that post following mine lol.

 

No opening act when I saw them last year, but don't worry, the roadies are important too! :)

Nah, the fact is still that this is the only sim so far having this much promise, because pretty much everything preceding this has either been arcadish, incomplete or "balanced". But how long can you hold people's attention?

 

Now I know I'm in this for the long run myself, because frankly speaking, what this sim does well it really does SO well that no-one can say anything about it, unless they either come up with something better themselves or show a competitor whose offerings are more realistic. But is that enough? What this environment is f.ex. missing badly is some kind of dynamism, because what really keeps folks attached to a sim is a possibility of being able to play, say, a campaign (or an online war) where the outcome is totally dependent on what goals are achieved. Now it's entirely possible to do pseudo-random missions even now - and I've done a bunch myself so I know - but that's not the same thing...

 

So what I'm actually concerned about here - well apart from my personal pet peeves which I can live with, truth be telt - is that will this thing ever get finished to a point where you REALLY can say that this is the complete, unabridged, total and 100% bees knees?

 

PS. Sorry for the rant, gotta rant sometimes. LOL

but always evolving

 

Yah, but you still gotta nail something down at some point and call it done. Because if you don't peeps will just think you'll never get it finished...

 

EDIT

 

put up with the construction

 

Yah, nothing wrong with that either, shows the punters that stuff's getting done too. But I still think my point stands...

Edited July 18, 2014 by msalama

we are in the middle of house renovations..

 

Yah, wait for EDGE 1st and then see where we stand. Just wish it came out soonish ;)

Yah, but you still gotta nail something down at some point and call it done. Because if you don't peeps will just think you'll never get it finished...

 

There's a difference between the features of modules and the features of the whole engine.

 

Unfortunately even if a module is neatly wrapped up, it's almost a given that at some point the development on the evolving engine will break something in that module, no matter how careful you are.

So yah, a bit of a dilemma then? Gotta adjust the core to make it better... but as a result possibly break something as you go, too, but still as an aim at the same time also introduce new functionality that the modules can take advantage of. But where does all that stop, or does it?

So yah, a bit of a dilemma then?

 

That's a nice understatement. :)

 

 

But where does all that stop, or does it?

 

I certainly hope it doesn't. I hope the community keeps growing. More money for ED means they have more money to burn on keeping the software quality high.

1- AI can always be improved, please feel free to list specific items in the AI problems sub forum.

 

Until it becomes sentient and takes over.. the World! Mwahahahaa! *ahem* Did I just say that out loud?

 

Seriously though, AI can be made believable but still rather dumb and predictable by just throwing more scripts at it for different conditions, but that ends up causing huge performance problems the more units there are.

The things that seem ok for a single AI unit alone seem really dumb when there are plenty of units all doing the same thing.

 

So some kind of group-level AI or faction-level AI would be more useful than improving just single unit AI?

Also having over-powering AI is no use either (if it would be possible even..)

 

Anyway, interesting to see where development will lead to ;)