??? -Question for Ironhand (relative to 'SURVIVING THE DUEL')

Ironhand,

First of all, allow me to repeat what everybody has been saying and thank you very warmly for your fantastic tutorials. They have helped me tremendously enjoy our favorite sim!

I have 2 questions relative to your excellent tutorial 'Surviving the duel'.

In it you explain how you rely on the number of signal strenght lights of the Beryoza system to determine the distance of the ennemy F-15. You give the following numbers : 5th light is 70km, 4th light is 60km, 3rd light is 40km and second light is 30km. I wonder if this info is available somewhere in a more systematized way, and also for other types of Aircrafts?, Would these numbers apply to a weaker Mig-29's radar or to the more powerful Flanker's radar? how about an F-16?, or a Mig-23? or Mirage 2000? etc... I would very much appreciate finding out these numbers.

My second question is relative to your use of the clock. It is very interesting how you use it and I like to use it too for many purposes. How do you determine that the AIM-120 will fly for 45 seconds? It supposes that it was launched at maximum range and optimal altitude? co-altitude? how about a launch at a much higher altitude? lower? later? from another type of Aircraft-missile system? how would you use the clock in these cases? Then, how those other numbers would break down into turnign away, turning back into the bandit, launch a second missile, etc...

Thanks for the infos. It is very much appreciated!

JEFX

I had the same question 2 as well. :) good questions. :D

Re question 1 - have a look at the following topic posted by jojob66 at LockOnFiles.

RE: question 1 answered!

Thanks Viper

This is a great archive!

This guy took some time to achieve that kind of experimentation!!!

JEFX

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My second question is relative to your use of the clock. It is very interesting how you use it and I like to use it too for many purposes. How do you determine that the AIM-120 will fly for 45 seconds? It supposes that it was launched at maximum range and optimal altitude? co-altitude? how about a launch at a much higher altitude? lower? later? from another type of Aircraft-missile system? how would you use the clock in these cases? Then, how those other numbers would break down into turnign away, turning back into the bandit, launch a second missile, etc...

JEFX

My apologies for taking so long to reply. Haven't visited here for awhile.

159th_Viper's link certainly took care of your first question. I never got as involved myself. I was mainly interested in the flyable aircraft. It allowed me to give a few jamming aircraft online a nasty surprise.

Concerning the 2nd Q, my focus wasn't on the AIM-120's flight time. Rather, it was my own R-27ER I was interested in. At the range I was launching, if I didn't see evidence of a hit in the HUD by the time 45 seconds had passed, I'd know that my first missile had missed. Time often seems either expanded or compressed in a fight. Keeping an eye on the stopwatch makes you aware of how much time has actually passed--as opposed to how much you feel has passed. And, as a practical matter, after about 45 seconds in the air, the R-27ER won't have enough energy left to hit a maneuvering target, anyway.

Rich

Thanks Rich for your answer,

(It didnt take so long...)

I wonder how to adapt your idea to the following situation: sometimes I found that the AI sweeping ennemy aircraft, for some unknown reason, will wait a bit longer before sending its first missile. In these occasions, if I wait after he sends his first missile to send mine and try to do the described defensive manoeuver, I get nailed more often. Do you think that in these instances, I should send my missile first?

thanks

JEFX

...if I wait after he sends his first missile to send mine and try to do the described defensive manoeuver, I get nailed more often. Do you think that in these instances, I should send my missile first?

As the saying goes: The best defense is good offense. :) I'd rather have him trying to avoid mine, than me trying to avoid his.

Rich

thanks rich. :D

Thanks Rich!

JEFX

Hi JEFX,

I like you was curious about the signal strength for different AC that why I did the tests that my 159th team mate (Viper) directed you to. Its a bit of reverse engineering and is only ment to be a guide. The big caveat to using this data is you have to be sure what AC your up against, otherwise you could be in for a surprise.

Here is the data laid out around the RWR.

First class work Jonob66, I will print these off for reference. :thumbup:

Thanks Jonob66

Those are great rerefences!!!!!!!!

On the tactical level, one might always imagine what is the immediate threat, and if not, one should choose the most threatening situation, according to your diagrams!

thanks a lot

JEFX