Release landing gear when damaged

Sorry if this was already asked and answered, but several times when I fly the shark, I manage to break it.

So when I return to base and want to land, the landing gear doesn't release.

In the manual it's said, I should remove the red cover and push the button that is behind, in order to use the "second hydrolic system" for the landing gear, but it never works and I have to land on without landing gear.

So how does it work ? Are both of my hydrolic systems broken or the landing gear itself is broken ?

Any help much appreciated.

Hard to say without seeing the incidents, but my guess would be physical damage to the gear or hinges, preventing the hydraulics from operating the gear.

So how does it work ? Are both of my hydrolic systems broken or the landing gear itself is broken ?

On the right back panel, there are gauges for the hydraulic pressure. If only the main system pressure is low, the little switch behind the red cover is your weapon of choice, if both systems are blown, tough luck, belly landing it is.

Note that for the backup system to work, you still have to put the main gear handle into the down position, if i'm not mistaken.

Also, if both hydraulic circuits are pressured, the emergency switch won't help you if the gear malfunctions.

If you have lost main hydro pressure, then you should use the red switch. If the gear is just jammed, the red switch wont do anything.

The red switch just switches between both systems. Its always good to try though, perhaps it does work. Who knows ;)

@Sobek: Yes. you still have to put the main gear handle in the down position.

Thanks for the informations, I'll try that next time I'm damaged enough, but not too much :joystick:

I'll give a look to the manual to see where are the gauges, and the switch you mentionned, maybe I use it every day but I don't know what it is for.:doh:

If you become puzzled at any type of behaviour, please try to remember to click "save track" afterwards. It'll ensure the best facilities for us to review what happened and make a more qualified diagnosis.

Just to clarify: the landing gear is by default linked to the common hydaulic system, so if the main sistem fails, your landing gear will operate as always. However, if common hydraulic system fails, then you have to use the switch we are talking about, to make the landing gear operate from main system.

BTW, once landed, ground crew do not repair the hydraulic if you do not have other damage, it's curious. On another note the hydraulic accumulator only loads presure from common system.

:D

For further detail, refer to your manual or click this: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?lang=en&end_pos=2107

There is a bug with hydro systems. If one dies, other dies too. :) So, if you see message about one hydro system being damaged, release gear immediately while there is some pressure left or risk being forced for belly landing.

There is a bug with hydro systems. If one dies, other dies too. :) So, if you see message about one hydro system being damaged, release gear immediately while there is some pressure left or risk being forced for belly landing.

That was my observation as well and exactly my tactics to deal with it:

I NEVER had just a failure in just one single hydraulics system. In every single case one of my hydraulic systems was hit, both hydraulic systems lost pressure. In no case was I able to lower the gear after this kind of damage.

So now if the hydraulics-damage-message appears on the ABRIS, I pull out of combat immediately and lower my landing-gears.

I you force the failure of one hydraulic system in the mission editor, just the one marked fails. The odd thing is that only common hyd. system falilure leads to loss of pressure in the accumulator, as if the main hyd. system does not charge it. I have to see the manuals, as EtherealN kindly reminded me.

I have a slightly off topic question reguarding the nose gear steering. It seems that both the cyclic and the rudder pedals can change the nose gear steer point. Is that normal? Sometimes at loadup the nose gear would be facing completely in a left/right steerpoint instead of forward. I used to have problems tipping over when I started to roll until I learned to push the cyclic forward. Rudder didnt always seem to change the direction until I had some forward momentum.

I have a slightly off topic question reguarding the nose gear steering. It seems that both the cyclic and the rudder pedals can change the nose gear steer point. Is that normal? Sometimes at loadup the nose gear would be facing completely in a left/right steerpoint instead of forward. I used to have problems tipping over when I started to roll until I learned to push the cyclic forward. Rudder didnt always seem to change the direction until I had some forward momentum.

You have no control over the nose-wheel. ;)

It's just mounted to give in to the momentum you create via rotor and rudder.

ahh well that makes sense then.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=726708&postcount=833

"Then I have news for you: 1) Both hydro systems always break together in Shark, despite they are independent".

"We checked. Yes, you are right. Both systems fail together. We have missed this bug. We will fix it in future".

You have no control over the nose-wheel. ;)

 

It's just mounted to give in to the momentum you create via rotor and rudder.

Like a shopping trolley. Which is what it feels like when taxiing.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=726708&postcount=833

 

"Then I have news for you: 1) Both hydro systems always break together in Shark, despite they are independent".

 

"We checked. Yes, you are right. Both systems fail together. We have missed this bug. We will fix it in future".

Thanks for sharing this, maybe this will be fixed in the patch that will make BS and FC2.0 compatible :thumbup:

(this is just a hope)

Another question regarding the hydraulics system: When I switch the "main hydraulics -off" switch to "off", the hydraulic lights (hydraulic valve #1/#2) on the back panel do not illuminate. Is it me or the game?

And on a different note: Can I fly the thing on one engine without weapons but a full fuel load?

And on a different note: Can I fly the thing on one engine without weapons but a full fuel load?

Can't answer your first question as IDK, but to this one, fly - yes, but put the throttle on the working engine to emergency power and RTB ASAP... hover - not a chance. :joystick:

-Mack

Yes, it is possible to fly with one engine, as mack stated. Hover --> no-go! Also, to aid the weight issue, start up the apu. This burnes some more fuel for you to lose weight.

Thanks for the answers guys! Any takers for the first question:

When I switch the "main hydraulics -off" switch to "off", the hydraulic lights (hydraulic valve #1/#2) on the back panel do not illuminate. Is it me or the game?