F-86F-35 - Additonal Air to Ground Ordinance

I would like to suggest that while a Great module the F86 could be more more fleshed out in the air to ground strike capability.

1) conventional bombs.

Currently the F86 only has 5 inch HVAR rockets, and An-M64 500 pound bombs, which are both of world war 2 era. You can mount up to 16 rockets or go with 8 rockets and be able to have space for the 2 bomb hardpoints, and 1 bomb type.

More varation of bombs should be aviable like the An-m65 1000 pound bomb, as well as newer stuff.

During the Korean war. a newer generation bomb debuted. An 750 pound

M-117 bomb.

Some info and image of the bomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M117_bomb

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m117.htm

The F86s were capable of arming it.

According to a F-86F block 25- 40 Standard characteristics Datasheet.

Under the bombs section on page 3, it is referred to as n"ew series bombs" and there Is a 750 pound bomb listed.

http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/northamericanaviation/f-86sabre/f-86f-25-thru-40-sabre-standard-aircraft-characteristics.html

Also since the f86 in game has post Korean upgrades, an ability to arm the Gar8/ Aim9B, which wasn't introduced until 1956, there should be some possibilities of other air to ground ordinance available post too, which may not have been part of initial capabilities during the F86F introduction.

Eg Such like Napalm bombs, and lau3 2.75 inch rocket pods

2) Nuclear weapons

what is unique about the block 35, is that it has the LABS ( Low altitude bombing system) for toss bombing, a method that was meant to be used to deploy Tactical nuclear bombs, in a such a way that the sabre could escape the blast. Currently there are no nukes for the Sabre. the LABS system is impractical for using smaller conventional bombs.

IS there any word if additional ordinance will be added?

If not it should be strongly considered to be developed and added to the Module at some point.

I agree with you:thumbup:

Nukes are always good (except in real life) but hopefully ED will bring in blast and shrapnel effects which would make LABS useful with conventional bombs.

Bombs really need a blast and shrapnel effect - it's so frustrating to drop a bomb in front of a truck and he just drives away...

+100 on this thread - the Sabre could sure use some tune-ups.

Napalm first, always napalm!

Hi,

the M117 is available in DCS, but with an old 3D Model. I made a new one and added it to the F86.

O_o call it a mod and release it! Now!

upuaut how did you get it to work?

Did you manage to get the Hydra to work?

Hi,

you can download the M-117 mod from my Dropbox-Folder, it's JSGME ready.

Here is a Link with a guidance for the Hydra.

F-86F-35 - Additonal Air to Ground Ordinance

You have a link to your dropbox folder?

And I thought implementing the rocket pods in addition to the HAVR

Edit: link found

Mods a re great but id like it to be worked on by the belsimtek developers who made this module. To actually like to be able to use this sort of ordinance on public multiplayer servers.

Works :D

Also addet the FFAR70 Pods - works like charm

Downloaded this, thanks the bomb looks great. Have you noticed any difference in the bombing trajectory? I have only dropped it 3 times. The first time I had a brainfart and the bomb hit my wing immediately after release killing me. The second run came up really short and the third run came up really long. I have gotten fairly good with the original bomb, but still learning so it could very well be all me. How do the FFAR70 Pods work? that would be cool too.

I have edited the lua also and addet 7x and 19x rocket pods to the pylons - I have not found any informations about which pots could be attached to which pylon at the original plane so I have addet them to the 4 wing stations.

Also edited the "forbidden" parameter for the right bomb which was for the wrong side

I can upload the lua if you want

Mig21 has a nuke so it would be good for the F-86 to have the same although weapon effects are not yet modeled.

Wow, just looked again at this, FYI for those of you who want to use it in public servers, I will bring this to my squadron leader and he should be keen on implementing it to the 39 VFS server pack. All credit to einherjer of course.

Totally agree, Pakistan used F-86F-s against India mainly in ground attack role.

And a drawing:

Also South Africa equiped thme with french weapons:

I would upload this mod with permission from upuaut for his M117?!

If upaut agrees this should be made into a single pack, possibly JSGME ready. Really good amount of collective work here gentlemen.

M117 + HE + WP

1 Thing ... The connection between ordnance and pylon is a little... Magic ;)

Here it is:

F86 M117 and FFAR

its JSGME compatible - just expand to your JSGME folder.

I hope its useful ;)

Many many Thanks to upuaut for the M117 Bomb model and script!

This could be fun. Unfortunately you used the old F86 lua file with the slow gun rates. And the gun smoke is still there.

Oh - thanks for the info - will correct it soon

Updated - same link