[CORRECT AS IS]TGP bore-sighting after undesignate

As the title says. i hope this is not supposed to be the correct behavior as it was not before the introduction of the slave to WP and VV modes. this makes TOO with INS weapons very time consuming and frustrating. i have not seen this reported elsewhere so i hope it is not an issue on my end.

TGP undesignate to boresight.trk

It has been reported many times and everyone at ED states that it is correct for the real Hornet. I know it sounds crazy that a multi million dollar aircraft was built like this, but it seems it's true and we have to trust ED.

Alright, what the point of having two controls have the same function ?

If I want to boresight/snowplow I would do that, not undesignate.

How come when you manually designate and undesignate it doesn't return to snowplow ? How come when you slave to WP and then manually designate a new point, it still returns to snowplow when you undesignate ?

Take it easy, a lot of people is struggling with this now. Probably ED misunderstood the documents like they did with the JDAMs, it can happen to anyone, documents are very complex. Hopefully they will revisit this in the future. For now, all they say is that it is correct. It means they are working on different aspects of the hornet and need more time to look at this.

I’m pretty sure that ED’s interpretation of this is only half correct. If the TGP is slaved to a waypoint OR a system designation exists with the TGP NOT in a track mode (ie VV slave and TDC depress) then undesignate should return to snowplow. HOWEVER if the TGP is in atrack or ptrack mode, then TGP pointing is regarded as independent of system designation. Yes the atrack/ptrack can be co-located with the designated point, but not necessarily. Thus the TGP should only return to snowplow if it’s pointing is dependent on the system designation (as when it is slaved to a waypoint WITHOUT being in a track mode). If it is in a track mode, either exit the track or cage/uncage to reset pod pointing.

This should also change JDAM behavior. If you choose PP mode while TGP is slaved to a WP - then back to snowplow as PP overrides WPDSG. However if you’re in area track, the TGP doesn’t care if you lose WPDSG. You can see this in effect by choosing a JDAM in PP mode and slewing the pod. If you then enter atrack mode the pod will be in atrack while the JDAM retains its PP designation, so clearly TGP tracking can exist independent of system designation.

Yes exactly. It will be some time though until ED revisit this aspect, IF they agree their interpretation wasn't 100% correct.

TGP undesegnate back to boresight

Is it supposed to do this, the reason is when using JDAM's I'm fairly certain that in the past you could designate a target, undesignate, step to another station, move the TGP, designate again and get several different set of coordinates for separate stations, to drop in a single pass.

You can still do this, but now when I hit undesignated, the TGP goes to its boresight position each time, I don't think it used to do that, it just kept looking at where ever you last had it, which would be what you just targeted.

So am I misremembering it, has it changed, and if it has changed is this because it is now how it should be or is it a mistake?

If it's how it should be great, if not, then maybe it's a bug.

Also for some reason when hitting the uncage button, that seems to make the camera want to look backwards into a stowed position, is that correct, should that not be what sends it to the boresight position?

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=269486

and

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=274082

Thanks.