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I just went through the auto updater for the 6055 release and my customizations to files in the mods folder and scripts folder (for interaction with helios and my touch screen) were removed.

 

Am I going to have to do this for every little patch? :cry:

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1) Altitude above you;

2) Runway behind you;

3) Fuel in the truck;

4) The airspeed you don't have.

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my customizations ... were removed.

They were backed up in .backup_000 folder in the installation folder.

 

Unfortunately, there's no way to autoupdate AND keep user modifications to game files at the same time.

We are working on a solution to allow all user mods to be loaded from Saved Games\DCS\ subfolders.

 

Btw, placing aircraft/tech mods in Saved Games\DCS\Mods\ is already supported.

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Ooooo. Nice! That's better than what I was expecting. I'll look into putting most of the stuff for gauge exports in the mods directory ASAP.

 

Thanks! And thank whoever asked that this feature be put in. That makes the process a lot easier and seeing as the directory structure is preserved, very easy to recover from!

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1) Altitude above you;

2) Runway behind you;

3) Fuel in the truck;

4) The airspeed you don't have.

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Can the Autoupdater leave files that we moded if they were not part of the update?

It's bit anoying to have to change them back every time update happens. I don't mind changing if the files I moded were part of the update but why need to "repair" them if they are not part of the update?

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Can the Autoupdater leave files that we moded if they were not part of the update?

Nobody can guarantee that the game will continue to work after update if the mods are left in place.

However, your suggestion is something to think about.

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Nobody can guarantee that the game will continue to work after update if the mods are left in place.

However, your suggestion is something to think about.

 

If you have a data file (for example the monitors lua file), and the dev's decide to change it for whatever reason, than it get's changed (original backed up off course), but if it's not changed by the dev's, it be left in place?

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My opinion is that user mods do not belong to the game installation folder.

They should be placed in Saved Games\DCS\ subfolders.

 

Currently it is supported for a limited number of moddable areas, but the situation will improve.

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My opinion is that user mods do not belong to the game installation folder.

They should be placed in Saved Games\DCS\ subfolders.

 

Currently it is supported for a limited number of moddable areas, but the situation will improve.

 

It would be WONDERFUL if this could be made to work for all modded files.

 

coff thanks for this initiative.

 

I know dates are rarely given for such things.. but can you give any indication about when you will have time to try and get this feature fully included.

 

If it is weeks, i'll hold of on much customisation, if its months i'll bite the bullet and apply the numerous modifications i like to use.

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DCS has so many areas to mod, that the support will come in steps. One at a time. Full support: months.

 

In the mean time, I'm considering making the updater to ask whether to leave user modifications in place or backup them. This one is weeks :)

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DCS has so many areas to mod, that the support will come in steps. One at a time. Full support: months.

 

In the mean time, I'm considering making the updater to ask whether to leave user modifications in place or backup them. This one is weeks :)

 

Thanks mate.

 

Just to clarify.. if i add the file structure under Mods from the main directory to the saved game's directory and add my modded files they will be used rather than the ones on main directory.

 

i.e

 

\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\aircrafts\A-10C\Cockpit\Scripts\CDU\device\modded.lua file

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c0ff thanks for feedback

 

So what you are saying we could place moded file into SavedGames/...etc folder (following game folder structure) and they could work and this way autoupdater would not touch them? (oops, MadTommy already asked same question :D)

 

I'm gonna have to try this out

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Thanks mate.

 

Just to clarify.. if i add the file structure under Mods from the main directory to the saved game's directory and add my modded files they will be used rather than the ones on main directory.

 

i.e

 

\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\aircrafts\A-10C\Cockpit\Scripts\CDU\device\modded.lua file

 

they should not work at such way. mostly because we need to keep in mind safety and cheat avoidance

 

you can change only cockpit package entirely, i.e. remap used cockpit path to another directory


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they should not work at such way. mostly because we need to keep in mind safety and cheat avoidance

 

you can change only cockpit package entirely, i.e. remap used cockpit path to another directory

 

Correct me if i'm wrong.. but that means you can use the saved game folder to add a new plane (addon) but not to alter the defaults airframes provided with the game. (a10, ka50 etc)

 

If so that is a shame.

 

I'm not really sure how modified files in the main directory are ok for security & safety yet the same modification via saved games is not. I'm sure there is logic here but due to my own lack of knowledge i can't see it.

 

 

So in the mean time every autoupdate will remove all modified files to .backup_000 folder in the installation folder?


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Correct me if i'm wrong.. but that means you can use the saved game folder to add a new plane (addon) but not to alter the defaults airframes provided with the game. (a10, ka50 etc)

 

If so that is a shame.

 

I'm not really sure how modified files in the main directory are ok for security & safety yet the same modification via saved games is not. I'm sure there is logic here but due to my own lack of knowledge i can't see it.

 

 

So in the mean time every autoupdate will remove all modified files to .backup_000 folder in the installation folder?

 

i said that you can change cockpit package entirely , but you should declare it as valid plugin , it can be placed in Saved Games/DCS/Mods , cause it is valid place for mods , no matter that is ED plugin or not , i don't have such functionality to check that mod is maded by ED , where is my shame ?

 

 
local self_ID = "Ka-50 by Someone else"
declare_plugin(self_ID,
{
.....
})

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make_flyable('Ka-50',current_mod_path..'/Cockpit/Scripts/',nil, nil)--make_flyable(obj_name,optional_cockpit path,optional_fm = {mod_of_fm_origin,dll_with_fm})
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plugin_done()

 

sort of this plugin declaration will switch Ka-50 cockpit to your scripts entirely

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where is my shame ?

 

The only shame is i didn't understand you correctly. :doh:

 

I didn't understand "cockpit package".

 

Thanks Alex

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I wish i understood what Alex is trying to tell me. :(

 

I hate code! I wonder if anyone could explain this to me.

 

I had a look at the 'How To » DCS Mods structure : How to create your plugin from scratch' thread hoping that might help... well over my had and knowledge of code.

 

I think i understand the principle but certainly not the practice.

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Config\View\View.lua is a rather annoying one as I edit it to "UseDefaultSnapViews = false" so that I can use my own custom snapviews and when DCS updates it changes it back to true.

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I wish i understood what Alex is trying to tell me. :(

 

I hate code! I wonder if anyone could explain this to me.

 

I had a look at the 'How To » DCS Mods structure : How to create your plugin from scratch' thread hoping that might help... well over my had and knowledge of code.

 

I think i understand the principle but certainly not the practice.

 

 

I think what he is trying to say is that if you say Copy the KA-50 files then reinsert it as a mod with a different name, then any changes you make will be avalible in that mod.

It will only work for single player and you will have to change the missions to select your aircraft.

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