Which is easier to learn A10C or Blackshark?

[Vitesse2l]

You can fly and fight the shark without learning too many keys.

 

I'm really impressed how the KA50 (which came out in 2008 ) still stands up against newer releases.

[msalama]

@Vexedent: yeah, as far as helos go it's very easy, but still different from any winged type you may have experience with. Just wanted to emphasize this, that's all ;)

[Irregular programming]

Sorry for the digression, but AIs shooting through trees isn't ALWAYS unrealistic. For reference see f.ex. some RL videos on Youtube where some insurgents deep in a woods somewhere shoot down an Mi-8...

 

I'd say the sim is way way easier than what any "realism" would add to it.

 

The spotting through trees argument is a joke, you are a helicopter, aren't exactly stealthy.

 

 

But yeah, A10 is easier if you are more technically inclined and the ka50 is a bit harder to pilot. Take note that the ka50 is an extremely easy helicopter to fly and is a good intro to helis.

 

Buy both is my suggestion.

[St3v3f]

I agree with what many guys said already here.

 

The A-10 is easy to fly but more complex in regards to systems. Anyone who has played any sort of flight simulator of the last 10 years will have no problems to press the autostart button, take off, fly and land. Therefore learning the A-10 is more of a technical nature. You don't really need to learn flying it but how to operate it.

 

The Ka-50 (as well as the other helicopter modules) on the other hand... It's pretty much like having to learn how to walk. The flight model is nothing like what you might be used to from MS Flight Sim, Battlefield or ArmA etc. and it will be quite awkward at first. However the weapons are few (especially the ones that make sense. I mean, bombs on a helicopter? Come on... ;)) and the systems are a bit awkward to use as well yet quite simplistic for the most part. But once you've mastered it, it is a mean killing machine and my personal favorite in DCS.

Edited February 7, 2014 by St3v3f

[Dr_Arrow]

I'd agree with most posts above...

 

2. Ka-50: Much harder to fly effectively, takes more time to get used to it, has somewhat simpler and old avionics (although the ABRIS also has loads of functions not a lot of DCS pilots bother to learn). The weapons employment is somewhat easier, but cannon employment requires finesse and careful piloting, which takes somewhat more time than in the hog.

 

 

I'd say that cannon employment on KA-50 is very easy, just lock in shkval, auto-turn to target ON, shoot. Without auto-turn to target just put the target in the big square on the HUD and shoot. The cannon is very precise and has nearly endless amno.

[BitMaster]

Hey all,

from my point of view, the Ka-50 is way easier to Master in a given time than the A10-C. If you know the basics of Helicopter Flying you will be shootin' T-80's in a row in less than 2 weeks learning 'n' training. The A10-C definitely needs way more time to cover all you need to have fun.

 

Apart from the learning curve, in my experience I have less trouble spotting targets in the Kamov. It can be a pain to track down enemies with the A10-C's Target Pod while flying at high altitude and not hovering :)

 

Both make fun, no doubt, but the Kamov is my toy of joy.

 

I just started to fly the UH-1 I got me for Xmas...and I have to say, that is a ball of it's own.

 

Slide in a CCR disc, lean back, get the feeling of the late 60's and early 70's and fly that Bird low and fast over enemy territory, watching your gunners taking out soft targets. Maybe not suitable for mid->heavy targets but for sure the best blast in this game yet. When it comes to fun, nothing beats the Huey, the sound alone deserves a medal :)

 

Seems like I love choppers...WAAHAHAAAAA gimme mroe choppers

 

Bit

[B25Mitch]

I think that the real difference is offensive vs. defensive capability. The A-10C has the advantage in an offensive situation due to its advanced targeting pod and RWR, allowing it to simultaneously pick out targets from far away and avoid threats in the area. Fire off 6 mavericks, get 6 guaranteed kills, with possibly more from bombs and GAU-8.

 

However, when it's a defensive situation, like a column of tanks advancing on your base, the Ka-50 wins. You can use the 12 Vikhr missiles to take out that many tanks, and then mop up the medium and light armour with the 30mm cannon, which has excellent accuracy and is effective against anything less than MBT's. And if used against Blue forces (as it should be), the Ka-50's laser warning receiver will give an alert for most types of ground threats if they are targeting you.

 

The Ka-50 can also be cold-started in two minutes, versus five for the A-10C, and obviously doesn't need to taxi to the runway.

[Vedexent]

I think that the real difference is offensive vs. defensive capability. The A-10C has the advantage in an offensive situation due to its advanced targeting pod and RWR, allowing it to simultaneously pick out targets from far away and avoid threats in the area.

 

The lack of an RWR is a real problem with the Ka-50. I've been flying CAS in a full battle front simulation, and been happily picking off tanks, when *BAM* the helicopter explodes. I just didn't have any warning of the Blue Mirage CAP locking on me and picking me off (although, it's possible it was using IR air-to-air, in which case an RWR would not have helped).

[JG-1_Vogel]

Personally I found the A-10C a little harder to learn than the Kamov purely because it's so intimidating the first time you sit in the cockpit. The Ka-50 pit is pretty straight forward, you've got the essentials and that's pretty much it. The hardest part of learning the Kamov for me in the ABRIS and using the Datalink to mark targets and share between wingmen. The A-10C however takes a while getting used to. Read the manual, I can not stress this enough. I downloaded it to my iPad and tried to go over a few things in the evening when I had a spare few minutes.

 

I prefer to fly the A-10 now over the Ka-50. It's a slow bucket of bolts but it's fun using all the precision weapons. Watching Paveways smack into a target on the ground is very satisfying and takes me back to when I watched footage of Desert Storm on the telly. It will take time but stick with it and it will be very rewarding.

[Maverick-X]

Propably said by some1, but I'm to lazy to read the posts, so here are my 2 cents: the A10C is easier to fly, as it is a fixed wing aircraft. The Avionics although are more complex and take a lot of time to understand completely.

 

The Shark is "easy" to fly once you know how, but that takes some time. Combat employment is quite easy, but being effective requires precission in flight.

 

I personally like both very much as they are simulated in detail and are fun to fly. But on regards of battlefield survival the Shark is a bit tough to master. Your only warning system is the laserwarner, so you don't have a missile- or radarwarningsystem, and you don't have rear hemisphere visibility.

 

In fact, fly the shark if you find Helos interesting or the A10 if fixed wing is what you like ^^