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Yeah, this thing's been flying for quite long. You can get more info on Elbit's systems webpage

http://www.elbitsystems.com/

 

direct link to Su-25 Scorpion info: http://www.elbitsystems.com/lobmainpage.asp?id=333 and http://www.elbitsystems.com/data/SU-25[new].pdf

 

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Oh, and Elbit's MiG-21 upgrade Lancer for Romanian AF, is awesome. Saw that MiGs for real while I was in Romania

 

Su-25 Scorpion cockpit:

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edit: Oh, and Elbit's MiG-21 upgrade Lancer for Romanian AF, is awesome. Saw that MiGs for real while I was in Romania

 

I would disagree. Russian MiG-21-93 is much more powerful (at least the more expensive variants of the upgrade). As I recall, the Israel upgrade makes two versions - a fighter and an attack plane. And the "fighter" version gets a new radar but only short range AAMs. Some fighter.. The Russian upgrade (don't know if it's still exists) combined both plus it offered even better radars and even R-77 missiles could have been integrated.

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I would disagree. Russian MiG-21-93 is much more powerful

You disagree to what :D Did I say anything about MiG-21-93 being less powerful

I've been in Lancer's cockpit and I say it was awesome! :icon_jook

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ssssh SPO-15 Beryoza :)

Struck me to.

 

Actually, the whole upgrade doesn't actually seem to offer that much more in the way of capability. Looks like an instrument upgrade, and . . . . . actually, that's about it.

 

Not that there's anything wrong with westernised instruments, decluttering the cockpit, making everything easier to read, simplifying presentation of information and easing pilot workload . . . . it's a superb idea!

 

 

Anyway - how do you know that the Beryoza is the ONLY system on board?

They could have wired in some clever systems to display threats on an MFD page, with the Beryoza as backup or an alternate display for when you're looking at another page . . . . .

If you can do the same for the other electronics, doing it for the Beryoza isn't that hard.

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I'm suprised they dumped the Russian ADI in the conversion. In the game it's a stunningly accurate piece of kit; i've been practicing blind landings with it and while it's hardly an easy past-time you can have total faith in the ADI.

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It's a nice intuitive way to do it - yeah.

Maybe the Georgian's just wanted as little to remind them of where they got the planes from as poss.

Cheers.

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I saw this at Farnborough 2002, static display. Dident even know what it was back then, so was not so interested in it. .

 

Heres a couple of pics.

 

http://homepage.eircom.net/~fish44/Pictures/scorpian01.jpg

http://homepage.eircom.net/~fish44/Pictures/scorpian02.jpg

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I would disagree. Russian MiG-21-93 is much more powerful (at least the more expensive variants of the upgrade). As I recall, the Israel upgrade makes two versions - a fighter and an attack plane. And the "fighter" version gets a new radar but only short range AAMs. Some fighter.. The Russian upgrade (don't know if it's still exists) combined both plus it offered even better radars and even R-77 missiles could have been integrated.

 

Right ...and you are a specialist ... and is not Israel Upgrade... It was done in Romania with colaboration...

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I've heard that they upgraded most electronic stuff - I mean, weapon computer system, navigation system etc with newer electronic parts, but, as new parts are of less weight, they loaded su-25 scorpion with a ballasting mass. main upgrades said was adapting the copcit for ingrared goggles and gps navigation, as well as adaptation for NATO air-to-ground amunition.

WE DON'T WANT A WAR.

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