lunaticfringe Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 SyFy is trying to go back to SciFi... You would too, after the blockbuster that was Sharknado.
HiJack Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Anyone that can view the trailer? :( http://www.syfy.com/videos/Ascension/Promos%20&%20Trailers/vid:2819394
Pilotasso Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 "content unavailable" ...and then caprica 6 shows in the background. Must be a new trend for marketing. :D .
OutOnTheOP Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) I'd watch it, it just needs to have a realistic feel to it for once. The original series was cheesy beyond belief. The most recent attempt was better, but limited by the fact that there was too much drama and conspiracy. Let's just have a movie about a military force fighting a bunch of humanoid robots for survival. K? Character development doesn't need random, out of place naughty scenes. Plot and drama doesn't mean that everyone has to be at each others' throats. Yes, I think we understand that everyone is stressed out over this. For the love of god though, you'd think these people would be trained well enough to listen to their captain for at least the span of a single episode. Which, after the first season, practically never happened. Everyone was just constantly bickering. it got sort of annoying (make that really annoying) until everyone finally calmed down at the end of the last season. Agreed. I think it's a symptom of current film and television: everyone is trying to out-do the last guy. They're trying WAY too hard to be "edgy" and "push the envelope", and in BSG 2.0, it just got tiring. OK, we get it... it's supposed to be suspenseful that anyone could be a Cylon. But when you drag on for four seasons just beating up on that dead horse, it gets old. Perhaps consider some plot twists that aren't *exactly* the same every time. Oh, and people like for the good guys to win *sometimes*. When the plot is predicated on hopelessness and constant failure, the viewer base will just get weary of it. And lord help us, please, no more insanely archetyped characters like the 2003 Starbuck. Oh. My. God. Possibly the most annoying, cringe-inducing character I have ever, in all my television-watching life, been subjected to. ...and that's including the ones that are SUPPOSED to be annoying! I actually rate her worse than JarJar! All in all, I agree with the above poster: the characters in the series were a little *too* undisciplined and prone to bickering and infighting. I think that anyone who seriously believes that this is what would happen in an apocalypse situation, needs to reconsider: people will, in such situation, do what has the best odds of leading to their survival. In most cases (including BSG), it doesn't make sense for the characters to expend so much energy fighting each other, when they are better served acting in coordination. Also, it always irritated me that like three episodes in, they make a big deal about being down to their last explosive rifle bullets. You know... the kind of bullets that can actually hurt Centurions (and then they make a big deal about how, normal bullets just bounce off). I mean, if the main, existential threat to humanity- the threat that is the Colonial Fleet's very reason for existence- requires explosive bullets to hurt, then why, oh, why, did they not stockpile up primarily (or even exclusively) that kind? That's just D-U-M, dumb. Edited October 16, 2014 by OutOnTheOP
Yurgon Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Character development doesn't need random, out of place naughty scenes. Plot and drama doesn't mean that everyone has to be at each others' throats. Yes, I think we understand that everyone is stressed out over this. For the love of god though, you'd think these people would be trained well enough to listen to their captain for at least the span of a single episode. Which, after the first season, practically never happened. Everyone was just constantly bickering. it got sort of annoying (make that really annoying) until everyone finally calmed down at the end of the last season. I couldn't agree more! That's a perfect summary of why I stopped watching BSG 2.0 sometime mid-season 4. I just didn't care about any character any longer (With the exception of the doc, maybe. Not Baltar. The cool one. Doc Cottle.) as for Stargate, etc. SyFy is trying to go back to SciFi... I think SG: Universe was the best SciFi show in ages. It actually cared about mixing science and fiction in a way that was both very well embedded in the universe established by the previous Stargate shows and believable from the point of view of "what if... very advanced science allowed a starship to harvest a star's energy for its own power?", augmented by "how would a bunch of 21st century citizens survive in that ship and learn its secrets?" Also, the conflicts among the humans were much better thought-out than on BSG 2.0 IMO. Characters didn't flip back and forward all the time. Conflicts that were there right from the beginning were kept all the way to the end. It's a shame the show got canceled so soon, it would have deserved more episodes. Other than that, I think it should have been titled "Stargate: Destiny", that would have been a much better fit than "Universe". they are trying to get paramount to sign a contract for Star Trek : Titan Huh, Frakes and Sirtis up for it? They did look somewhat aged on their cameo in the final "Enterprise" episode (Yes. By "aged" I mean "fat" :D). Agreed. I think it's a symptom of current film and television: everyone is trying to out-do the last guy. [...] Well said. OTOH, art always requires something older that it can reference and draw from. I don't think it's necessarily bad that TV shows try to out-do other shows. It's just that quite often, they focus on the wrong aspects. Then again, this is currently a really golden age for TV shows. I haven't even started with Game of Thrones yet, but there are so many great shows today, we really have a huge variety generally speaking. I just hope the SciFi genre will get more good shows of the TNG, DS9, Farscape, Babylon 5, Firefly and SG:U caliber.
Wolf Rider Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Also, it always irritated me that like three episodes in, they make a big deal about being down to their last explosive rifle bullets. You know... the kind of bullets that can actually hurt Centurions (and then they make a big deal about how, normal bullets just bounce off). I mean, if the main, existential threat to humanity- the threat that is the Colonial Fleet's very reason for existence- requires explosive bullets to hurt, then why, oh, why, did they not stockpile up primarily (or even exclusively) that kind? That's just D-U-M, dumb. there was too much bickering about whether or not stockpile and if stockpiling was needed, just how to stockpile, and what... :) City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
Schnittertm Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 All in all, I agree with the above poster: the characters in the series were a little *too* undisciplined and prone to bickering and infighting. I think that anyone who seriously believes that this is what would happen in an apocalypse situation, needs to reconsider: people will, in such situation, do what has the best odds of leading to their survival. In most cases (including BSG), it doesn't make sense for the characters to expend so much energy fighting each other, when they are better served acting in coordination. I don't think rational thought is one of the strenghts of humans, especially in the case of extreme, genocidal circumstances. You are facing the exctinction of all life as you know it, that life is squished into a few space ships, wolves snapping at your heels at every turn, wolves disguised as sheep among the flock, many are just normal humans torn out of their normal everyday lives, not knowing if they will survive the next day or where they will sleep or if they are ever going to step foot on a planet ever again. The circumstances don't get more extreme than that. Add to this that you have people with different views on religion, politics and other sensitive topics which people will only forget about for a very short while and you have a recipe for disaster or at the very least for a lot of disagreements. Even the soldiers will have problems there, because, even though they have been trained to be professional and rational, they are still humans, prone to mistakes and now the government and the nation/planet that they serve is, in a sense, not there anymore. What are they fighting for then? In these rather extreme circumstances it is not hard to imagine that it is dog eat dog out there. Most humans will only work together as long as there is a benefit in it for them. If that is missing, then you will have rebellions, dissent and a whole lot of other stuff. A mix of normal people from differing cultures, interspersed with extremists and criminals makes a very explosive mixture in and of itself already. Also, it always irritated me that like three episodes in, they make a big deal about being down to their last explosive rifle bullets. You know... the kind of bullets that can actually hurt Centurions (and then they make a big deal about how, normal bullets just bounce off). I mean, if the main, existential threat to humanity- the threat that is the Colonial Fleet's very reason for existence- requires explosive bullets to hurt, then why, oh, why, did they not stockpile up primarily (or even exclusively) that kind? That's just D-U-M, dumb. You can look at every series and will find a lot of logic errors and other such mistakes, just as in the real world. I mean, remind me why it was necessary to have all the Battlestars and Mk. VII Vipers linked into the same defense mainframe on Caprica? It was that singular, big mistake that even enabled the Cylons to destroy the colonies, otherwise they would have had to go up against a whole fleet fully armed and battleready Battlestars with support fighters, which would have been more than powerful enough to take out several Cylon Basestars each. But, alas, a small subroutine in an insignificant navigation program disabled all but one of the new high tech Battlestars and their support fighters. As for equipment decissions, well, they may also have been dumb, but considering that these kind of decissions are often made by politicians and not people in the know, it is kind of understandable. Apparently, at least according to a study of the German MoD, of 109 possible Typhoon fighters only 74 are available and only 42 are actually combat ready and that is not the only equipment problem. Lobbyists, contracts, incompetent politicians, wrong decissions, all that can lead to such problems. That computer system in BSG was probably proposed to be cost saving and therefore the politicians said, yeah, okay, lets do it, it will makes us look good in the eyes of the voters and we haven't heard anything from the Cylons in over 40 years. As for what I found annoying about BSG 2.0, well, that was the underlying implications of providence and that everything has happened before and will happen again and its religious undertones of supernatural providence. But then again, if you consider the end of the series, maybe they were programmed that way.
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