Barthandelus Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Hi guys, First post here! Iv been using the A-10C for a few months now, and clocked up over 1,000 hours in FSX, so i know the 'theory' of navigation. Just have some question on how its implemented in the F-15C. When i request vectors to final from ATC, they give me a heading and distance. How do i know how far i have left to fly before I start lining up to the runway so i can start decent to make sure im at the correct altitude for when i get there? (have this question for the A-10C also). OK, so iv got vectors to final approach from ATC, and selected ILS nav mode (1 on the keyboard). How do i tune the ILS frequency? Or does the plane tune automatically? Lastly, how do i cycle waypoints of the flightplan i created in the Mission Editor? Basic stuff i know, but these are all i need before i start learning weapons. Thanks for your help, i appreciate it. -B
HiJack Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 First fly to the heading to intercept the localizer for the ILS landing. Then follow the ILS instruments or the HUD cross to land. Move heading to the indicator under the heading line in HUD (1 and 2 in blue):
HiJack Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I always use the HSI as I think the HSI gives the complete information much much clearer. You then also will have no problem landing in thick fog if you know how to use it. Use it always!
Barthandelus Posted May 25, 2014 Author Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the replies. I always use the HSI on finals. Do i just keep cycling the ILS freq. (pressing 1) until i find the one closest to my position? Is there another way i can identify the airport (or ILS) im 'tuned' to? Thanks again. Edited May 25, 2014 by Barthandelus
GC1993 Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I always use the HSI on finals. Do i just keep cycling the ILS freq. (pressing 1) until i find the one closest to my position? Is there another way i can identify the airport (or ILS) im 'tuned' to? Thanks again. There are ways to tell if you're tuned into the right ILSN heading/freq besides guessing. Firstly, look at what the range to airfield says on your HSI (top left window, see HiJack's diagram"), and then go onto the F10 map view, and use the ruler function to measure the distance between you and the airfield you think you're tuned into. If the ruler mileage matches your HSI mileage, you're most likely headed for the right one. This works for most cases except for airbases that are clumped together, such as those in the Tbilisi region (Lochini, Vaziani etc). Secondly again using your HSI to look at the required course heading in the top right window. Using the diagram above as an example, the required course is set to 289. Go onto your F10 view again, enter the "satellite" view mode, and zoom in on the runway you want to land at - if the runway is "29", then again you know you're heading for the right one. This method can also be done quicker if you have an airbase chart to refer to check the runway headings, rather than going on F10 again. Both of the above can be ineffective in the event of tightly packed airbases however, as if we use the Tbilisi example again, all 3 airports' main runways all face roughly the same heading. This isn't helped in DCS with the fact that some of the RW headings are actually a bit off, as their magnetic heading has slightly changed. In this case, all you can really do is intercept the glide slope on a long final (as you would for ILS as there's no other reason to be using it) and check your ADI ILS bars appear. If they don't, then you're headed for the wrong airbase. I read once on these forums (though don't quote me on this it might be wrong), that if you first contact the tower you want from the ATC comms menu and engage in communication, and THEN enter ILSN mode, it automatically selects the correct course for you, though I don't know how true this is.
HiJack Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I always use the HSI on finals. Do i just keep cycling the ILS freq. (pressing 1) until i find the one closest to my position? Is there another way i can identify the airport (or ILS) im 'tuned' to? Thanks again. use this quick information. The ID is the same as ID in the russian aircrafts. The Alt is the closest alternate airport to the ID airport. In the F-15C they shift in the same order:
HiJack Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Let's hope we can have a full functioning cockpit with all radios and navigation activated soon :)
Sorin Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 use this quick information. The ID is the same as ID in the russian aircrafts. The Alt is the closest alternate airport to the ID airport. In the F-15C they shift in the same order: Where is that ID displayed in cockpit/HUD?
IvanK Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Its not ! there in lies the crux of the F15 Nav problem.
Barthandelus Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Thanks again guys - I will get the headings for all the runways and just cycle through until i find the correct course in the HSI - that seems to be the only way to ID the ILS away from inteception. Not perfect, but useable. :)
SDsc0rch Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) are the devs aware of this problem? or, are key members (here on the forum) able to communicate this to the appropriate people? this seems to be sortof a critical capability/functionality.. Edited May 27, 2014 by SDsc0rch i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Barthandelus Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 are the devs aware of this problem? or, do key members (here on the forum) able to communicate this to the appropriate people? this seems to be sortof a critical capability/functionality.. Agree - this is pretty much essential stuff.
HiJack Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Where is that ID displayed in cockpit/HUD? The ID is in the russian aircrafts. In the F-15 you must go by heading of the airport + your distance to it so it is a bitch. I don't know why ED never have thought about fixing this with a index number in the western aircrafts.
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