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I think I figured how to land. Wee bit rusty though.. :helpsmilie:

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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has anyone tried landing with a full load of bombs and full fuel? I always at least break the tyres when I do this, but I have no trouble landing it with AA missiles on. I think, maybe MiG-21 is not designed to land with many bombs?

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In short, no it isn't supposed to land with heavy loads. Here's an excerpt from page 32-34 in the Manual:

 

8. It is forbidden to extend landing gear and flaps or to fly with landing gear and flaps extended when carrying eight FAB-100 bombs, or three drop tanks, or four S-24 rockets or two FAB-500 bombs, or four FAB -250 bombs or two UB-32 and two UB-16-57 pods (two guided missiles), or two UB-16-57 pods (two FAB-100 bombs) and two S-24 rockets (or two FAB-250 bombs) when fuel remainder is 700 to 1100 L.

 

In emergency situations, when it becomes necessary to land immediately with above indicated fuel remaining, jettison external stores from the outboard stations over a safe place before extending LG, and then land in the usual way.

 

9. Rated landing weight for using concrete, un-paved or snowcovered runway, 6800 kgf, BLC system being used by all means.

This landing weight is obtained when the aircraft:

 

(a) has no external loads, fuel remainder not exceeding 700 L;

 

(b) carries two missiles, or two UB-16-57 pods, or two FAB-100 bombs, or carries no combat stores but has empty drop tanks attached, fuel remainder being 500 L.

 

This fuel remainder ensures performance of a tight-visual-circuit goaround maneuver and landing, the flight endurance totalling about 6 min.

 

WARNINGS:

 

1. All other, heavier external loads shall be jettisoned before coming in to land.

 

2. The fuel remainder must be at least 600 L before an instrument approach to land under bad weather conditions, in order to ensure the ability to perform a two 180o turn or tight-circuit go-around maneuver.

 

3. The rated landing weight with the BLC system not in use is 6500 kgf. This weight is obtained when the aircraft carries no external loads and the fuel remainder is 400 L.

 

10. Landing of an overloaded aircraft (whose weight, however, should not exceed 7300 kgf) is allowed in the following exceptional cases:

 

(a) when carrying two guided missiles, or two loaded UB-16-57 pods, or two FAB-100 bombs and empty drop tanks, fuel remainder not exceeding 800 L;

 

(b) when carrying two empty UB-32 pods and two missiles or two FAB-100 bombs, or two loaded UB-16-57 pods; when carrying four guided missiles or four loaded UB-16-57 pods; or two missiles and two loaded UB-16-57 pods (two FAB-100 bombs); or four FAB-100 bombs, or two S-24 rockets, or two FAB-250 bombs, or two loaded UB-32 pods, fuel remainder not exceeding 600 L.

 

Landings with weights in excess of 6800 kgf shall be made with employment of the BLC system and drag chute in all cases.

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I'm pretty proud of this one:

 

 

My first landings were terrible (hard touchdown, launched back with no speed - broken landing gear), but now I know exactly how much input I need for a smooth flare and most of my landings are like this now...

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I'm pretty happy with my VFR landings and my ability to construct the RSBN box. Now I'm working on heads-down PRMG landings, which are proving to be tougher for me, especially since I'm trying to work it all the way down to the minimums. Not a lot of room for mistakes when you're only allowing yourself to look up at 100 meters. :D

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well I have tried landing even with empty rocket launchers. It wasn't pretty.

I'm gonna throw a question here that outside pylons are dropped to improve stability on the wheel wells?

 

We might never know but my guess is Mig-21 pilots may have landed with empty rocket launchers (considering the need for the launcher itself in developing countries)...

 

Yet in this video I wasn't loaded with anything but guns and 50% fuel. I'm trying different loadouts and reporting back on landings here.

AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS

 

Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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No matter full load or empty - I love to crash right into beacon station with this aircraft! :D :D

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haha... don't we all

AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS

 

Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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