boomerFranck Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Fairchild Republic A-10 Warthog Cockpit Throttle Control Quadrant I'd love to see someone get this working. EDIT: correct link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fairchild-Republic-A-10-Warthog-Cockpit-Throttle-Control-Quadrant-/251773631228?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item3a9ee0bafc&vxp=mtr Edited December 30, 2014 by boomerFranck
Extranajero Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Linky no worky ;) --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
Deadman Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Why would you think it would be very difficult? https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Hansolo Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) If you consider going for it then take a look here first; http://www.flighthelmet.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FHL&Product_Code=ACPT-1005&Category_Code= Its a bit cheaper but they won't send outside the US. I have tried :smilewink: Mind though that both are for the "A" model so you will have to tamper it a bit to get it to a "C"-like model. Cheers Hans Edited December 30, 2014 by Hansolo 132nd Virtual Wing homepage & 132nd Virtual Wing YouTube channel My DCS-BIOS sketches & Cockpit Album
Socket7 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I imagine that without pinout diagrams for the plugs, and technical documentation to describe what the signals it sends means, it would be a nightmare to connect it to anything. With documentation, it'd still be a lot of work, but at least you know what signals and wires you're working with for any particular function, making it much easier to wire everything up to an arduino or whatever. Very cool piece though! I've played with the idea of real A-10 hardware in my panels, but decided it was all to expensive for me. ($40 to 160 a piece for authentic toggle switches!!!) Edited December 30, 2014 by Socket7 Practice makes perfect.
cichlidfan Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Very cool piece though! I've played with the idea of real A-10 hardware in my panels, but decided it was all to expensive for me. ($40 to 160 a piece for authentic toggle switches!!!) That is pretty much why it would not be difficult. It is just a bunch of switches. Making the axis work would be a slight bit more work but with some hall sensors, a Bodnar board and a few other bits, it wouldn't take much. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Extranajero Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 If the A-10 uses the same slew control as the F-15 ( I believe they are related ) then that could be fun to interface because it's a little force sensing stick. I'd guess half an hour with a multimeter would take care of the rest though. --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
Socket7 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 If you pay 400 bucks for an authentic piece of kit, do you really want to gut the internals though? I was thinking of keeping the thing intact as much as possible. Decoding the signals used for the throttle axis, and then finding something that could interface with it and your PC would be quite the electrical engineering project. I agree with you though, the toggle switches is just a matter of testing the pinouts with a multimeter. probably just time consuming. Practice makes perfect.
agrasyuk Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Decoding the signals used for the throttle axis, and then finding something that could interface with it and your PC would be quite the electrical engineering project. quite simple, borderline trivial project. there is nothing electronic on the handle axii to interface with (the micro-switch bank on this unit for our purpose can be disregarded). either use regular potentiometers :) for connecting straight to joystick board. or use hall sensors, not much more elaborate either. the only thing of question here is how to physical mount your position detecting solution (which is also not rocket science). and then obviously one will need to work out how to update it to the C variant i do wonder however, is the panel on it back-lit at all? i didn't notice any light generating elements on the one i got. Edited December 31, 2014 by agrasyuk Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
Extranajero Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 I didn't know the throttle was fly by wire. Wow. --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
agrasyuk Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) the throttle is not "fly-by-wire", but that depends on what you mean by that. the handles actuate some sort of position readout device via mechanical linkages. those devices are not mounted on throttle assembly of which this topic talks about. on the picture you can see pair of bearings the linkages were attached to. the two small "04THV" linckages that you see actuate bank of 10 limit switches per engine via adjustable cam. that entire assembly is not needed for our purposes (IRL probably has to do with some sort of additional engine control sub-system) i have an idea of how i will be mounting magnets and hall sensors here, but don't have anything substansial to show for it yet. Edited December 30, 2014 by agrasyuk Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
Extranajero Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Fascinating, thanks, I just love stuff like that :) --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
7rooper Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 quite simple, borderline trivial project. there is nothing electronic on the handle axii to interface with (the micro-switch bank on this unit for our purpose can be disregarded). either use regular photometers for connecting straight to joystick board. or use hall sensors, not much more elaborate either. the only thing of question here is how to physical mount your position detecting solution (which is also not rocket science). and then obviously one will need to work out how to update it to the C variant i do wonder however, is the panel on it back-lit at all? i didn't notice any light generating elements on the one i got. Way better to purchase the TM Warthog set since it's a top quality replica My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR
Deadman Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Not necessarily there have been quite a few complains on the Warthog throttle. But then I don't have one. I did pick up the right side cover of the right grip and a Coolie switch for the front to convert my A grip to a C for now. The throttle is both electrical and a mechanical back up hence the linkage. agrasyuk post a picture of the back of your light plate I can tell you if it is white of NVIS. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Oydoron Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 If the A-10 uses the same slew control as the F-15 ( I believe they are related ) then that could be fun to interface because it's a little force sensing stick. I'd guess half an hour with a multimeter would take care of the rest though. The slew sensor in the Thrustmaster is I2C based. If you replaced it with a different sensor, you'd certainly need to interface it completely separately from the existing throttle.
agrasyuk Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 Way better to purchase the TM Warthog set since it's a top quality replica if it is a compact, plug-n-play,somewhat economically priced device that you need then of course TMWH is very good solution. and comes with a stick as well. but it is not 1:1 replica - throttle is considerably scaled down to fit on your desktop. size of controls and range of motion feels completely different . for someone who want's the best, who is comfortable with DIY stuff, and ready to spend some funds this is a very worthy purchase . i really like it and can't wait to fly with it. thanks DM, will when i again can Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
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