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I just got a new Graphis card today, I went from a GTX 650 to a GTX 780 and I had no issues with my old one, but now after I installed my new one, as I enter the cockpit the screen gets all full of white flickering specks the then turns black and I get the error::mad:

 

display driver stopped responding and has recovered

display driver NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 340.52 stopped responding and has successfully recovered.:(

 

However, the game keeps going from the game to a black screen and repeats the error till it turns white and I have to end the process in task manager. I tried the brand new driver and had same issue. I uninstalled the driver and reinstalled a old one, still no help. I changed all the graphic settings and still no help, I read a few things about changed some settings in the NVIDA control panel but still nothing is working. All other games I have tried are working perfect, like Microsoft flight sim x, Alien Isolation, and so on. Just this game is having problems. and the load times are sooooo long to. Any ideas????:cry:

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Hi - the current Nvidia driver is 347.09. I'd start there.

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I just got a new Graphis card today, I went from a GTX 650 to a GTX 780 and I had no issues with my old one, but now after I installed my new one, as I enter the cockpit the screen gets all full of white flickering specks the then turns black and I get the error::mad:

 

display driver stopped responding and has recovered

display driver NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 340.52 stopped responding and has successfully recovered.:(

 

However, the game keeps going from the game to a black screen and repeats the error till it turns white and I have to end the process in task manager. I tried the brand new driver and had same issue. I uninstalled the driver and reinstalled a old one, still no help. I changed all the graphic settings and still no help, I read a few things about changed some settings in the NVIDA control panel but still nothing is working. All other games I have tried are working perfect, like Microsoft flight sim x, Alien Isolation, and so on. Just this game is having problems. and the load times are sooooo long to. Any ideas????:cry:

 

Had this problem with my Gigabyte gtx-780, because DCS doesn't stress card to much it will throttle back the mhz and gpu core voltage so much that the GPU fails, other have this issue but for other reasons that I am not sure of.

 

Solution to try:

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1. In nvidia control panel -> Manage 3d Settings -> Global Settings -> Power Management Mode - (change this to Prefer Maximum Performance)

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2.In nvidia control panel -> Manage 3d Settings -> Program Settings -> DCS Black Shark -> Power Management Mode - (change this to Prefer Maximum Performance)

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3. Increase Antialiasing and anything that make the GPU work harder, check with GPU Z or MSI Afterburner to see how card is doing whilst playing game (make sure card is running at max MHZ and higher voltage.

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4. Reprogrammed GTX-780 Bios so it doesn't drop the voltage so low as to cause the issue - This is what I did in the end.

 

Regards, Ian.

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Had this problem with my Gigabyte gtx-780, because DCS doesn't stress card to much it will throttle back the mhz and gpu core voltage so much that the GPU fails, other have this issue but for other reasons that I am not sure of.

 

I've been having a similar issue with my GTX660.

 

I had assumed it was a problem with putting the voltage too high. Will try your suggestions to compensate for the drop and see if it works.

 

Thanks

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Had this problem with my Gigabyte gtx-780, because DCS doesn't stress card to much it will throttle back the mhz and gpu core voltage so much that the GPU fails, other have this issue but for other reasons that I am not sure of.

 

Solution to try:

-----------------

1. In nvidia control panel -> Manage 3d Settings -> Global Settings -> Power Management Mode - (change this to Prefer Maximum Performance)

or

2.In nvidia control panel -> Manage 3d Settings -> Program Settings -> DCS Black Shark -> Power Management Mode - (change this to Prefer Maximum Performance)

or

3. Increase Antialiasing and anything that make the GPU work harder, check with GPU Z or MSI Afterburner to see how card is doing whilst playing game (make sure card is running at max MHZ and higher voltage.

or

4. Reprogrammed GTX-780 Bios so it doesn't drop the voltage so low as to cause the issue - This is what I did in the end.

 

Regards, Ian.

Thanks for the info. I already tried the nvidia control panel changes and that didn't work. How do I reprogram the bios for the graphics card??

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Thanks for the info. I already tried the nvidia control panel changes and that didn't work. How do I reprogram the bios for the graphics card??

 

Disclaimer, I take no responsiblity for any failures caused by any of the info given, this can be a dangerous proceedure, dont take it lightly (may void your warranty), I only did it as Gigabytes customer service was useless and I didn't want to send the card back to where I purcased it from .

 

1. You will have to find the exactly correct bios model and version for your make and model of your graphics card, check here for info about the proceedure, bear in mind that this site is more for overclocking the card, I just changed the min voltages slightly and left them to dynamically change on load, instead of locking them at a constant high voltage.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1393791/official-nvidia-gtx-780-owners-club

 

or

 

2. Save your current bios with GPU-z bios feature and make a copy, then modify it your self and re flash it

 

3. Use Keplar bios tweaker tool v1.27 (Complex bios info, hard to understand, took me 5 goes to get the card to work satisfactorly, a bit of guessing involved using info from overclocker.net)

http://www.overclock.net/t/1452223/kepler-bios-tweaker-v1-26-v1-27-added-tdp-unlock-gtx-780ti-780-titan-gtx770

 

3a. Read about the recovery process if it all goes wrong and you get no video card on reboot.

 

4. Use NVFlash_windows_v5.142 to write the new bios back to your graphics card.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2258/nvflash-5-142-for-windows/mirrors

 

5. Reboot computer only when told to or Flash proceedure has finished.

 

6. Retest MHZ and Voltages of GPU with DCS and other games with GPU-z or MSI Afterburner whilst playing them, for my card between 1.1v - 1.2v is normal at 1020mhz and factory overclock 1071mhz.

 

Attached pictures of the elements you that you may need to change in Keplar Bios Tweaker.

 

1. Boost Limit = Highest clock you want your card to go to when the graphics engine is under full load, I dropped this also as the GPU would also crash when it when beyond the 1071mhz factory overclock.

 

2. Voltage Table = Main Voltages for different MHZ states, the first 7 are the main ones you have to change.

 

Best of Luck.

 

Regards, Ian

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As MadDog-IC says:"can be a dangerous procedure".

 

I have a GTX780 and it works perfect as should yours without bios tweaks. My advise is to first clean driver leftovers from you last videocard with this display driver uninstaller if you have not already. (run it in MS windows safe mode, after you uninstalled your nvidia driver)

 

 

Maybe even reinstalling DCS is a smarter plan then starting with bios manipulation. Since your other games work fine.

 

 

 

 

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As MadDog-IC says:"can be a dangerous procedure".

 

I have a GTX780 and it works perfect as should yours without bios tweaks. My advise is to first clean driver leftovers from you last videocard with this display driver uninstaller if you have not already. (run it in MS windows safe mode, after you uninstalled your nvidia driver)

 

Maybe even reinstalling DCS is a smarter plan then starting with bios manipulation. Since your other games work fine.

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I didnt take it lightly, I run the card in two complete different computer systems

 

1. On a brand new computer with fresh install of windows and DCS only on it.

2. My general gaming computer which had an ATI based card in it, but had thoroughly removed any remanance of those old drivers before installing the nvidia stuff.

 

The only common equipment between the two computers was the graphics card, different mothboards, different 600w psu, HDD, etc.

 

Tried three different versions of nvidia drivers, the one that come with the card, and two newer versions.

 

Even tried, one 620w psu powering computer only, and another external 620w psu just powering the graphics card.

 

Same result each time, DCS faulting the gpu, all other Direct x10 - x11 games all worked perfectly.

 

If others interested, this thread has more specifics on the exact issue I had with my card, that was only fixed by bios update.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2222341#post2222341

 

Cheers, Ian.

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Thanks for the info. I already tried the nvidia control panel changes and that didn't work. How do I reprogram the bios for the graphics card??

 

Take note that nvidia control panel settings were getting totally ignored, if video driver had failed and reset, it would go back to dynamic mhz and voltage regulation, instead of the programmed run at maxium perfomance override until you reboot your computer.

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How did my old gtx 650 not have any issues?? If I get a gtx 970 will I run into the same thing?? Oh and the error did happen again at random while playing alien isolation. This card was an open box, could that cause this??

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Smells fishy. Is it a new card, or a second-hand one? I've got 780 too, from EVGA and apart from occasional crashes in Cliffs of Dover, it's been working safe and stable in other sims since day one, without me changing any power management settings.

 

On the other hand, if Your card works more or less allright in other games, I don't know what to think about it.

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On the other hand, if Your card works more or less allright in other games, I don't know what to think about it.

 

Something to add what I wrote before - I also noticed my gtx295 would show these failures when flying FSX and (very) occasionally in DCS. In no other games it showed these failures. Lowering the clock frequency helped decrease the errors initially, untill it died in the end.

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It sounds to me like it could be heat/stress related. If the other games are not sufficiently demanding of the card, it may not be pushed into a failure mode.

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How did my old gtx 650 not have any issues?? If I get a gtx 970 will I run into the same thing?? Oh and the error did happen again at random while playing alien isolation. This card was an open box, could that cause this??

 

I would say it just comes down to how hard each manufacturer tries to push the GPU chips, some overclock from factory, some don't, the bios could be programmed totally different to another brand with different mhz and voltage threshholds.

 

The problem is not new, if you search the internet about the problem, it has plagued Nvidia cards of all models for ages. It may become more of a problem as heat and speed are increased with each sucessive model, the manufacture relies more on power management and mhz throttling to keep the GPU within an operating state, try running a GTX-780 at over 1.2v with full graphics load and it gets bloody hot. I personally dont like to run anything over 50-60c degrees at maximum.

 

I wouldnt' know if you will get the problem with any card, but the only options are if it doesnt work in a computer with a Fresh load of windows, and the apropriate system specs to run the card, then send it back for a refund.

 

I didn't do this as it was bought from a distant supplier, there would have been more freight cost involved, The gigabyte was the only brand that was the only card that had a decent after market fan, was two slots wide and not three or two and a half like the ASUS branded that I would have normally purchased.

 

After monitoring the cards performance under different games, etc. Because it had no problems with other games, except DCS It had to be a reasonably small issue.

 

By monitoring the games as I played, I could see that my GPU was indeed spiking the overclock far higher than it was actually programmed for (1250 mhz) and dropping the voltage to low when DCS had little ot do, such as viewing a single aircraft externally or going to F-10 map mode

 

I found that if temp locked the minimum GPU voltage from (0.9v) to higher than 1.1v all the time and underclocked the factory overclocked GPU from (1071mhz) to 1050mhz, that the issue was resolved.

 

Once I knew this solved the issues, I contacted Gigabyte tech support which give me the run around. So I decided to make the fix permanent with a bios fix.

 

End of Story, card works fine now under all conditions, I would say that its bios programming was faulty, and they were pushing the chip to hard with an overclock as other GTX-780 brands were all at the 980-1020mhz max gpu clock.

 

It is still very important to diagnose your own problem with constant monitoring and experimentation, as you may have a similiar problem, but be caused by another unrelated issue. I just hope that my posts may give you some where to look for a solution.

 

Kind Regards, Ian.

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Just a follow up from my experiences. Since forcing the card to run at a higher voltage (only a little higher) I've have no problems with the drivers failing and this is going from DCS to other games and back (which always used to cause a crash for some reason).

 

I hope the OP gets it fixed soon as I totally sympathise but once again I'd like to thank the OP for raising this and those who have offered help as you've fixed my issue it seems! :D

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When my card did that, I took the heatsink off and changed the thermal past. I also undusted the whole thing. Started working like new.

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Hi, I've had this problem for a year with my old card.

 

Came brand new and had that odd problem of (for me it was black and white) flickering all over and squares and cubes and then all back then recover to desktop, video driver has recovered.

 

I spent countless hours researching and finding out what to do. At the time I did not know but it is a 100% hardware issue.

 

I took the time to increase maximum voltage and run the fan at very high settings. This resulted in less, but still existant crashes.

 

One day, after a good 2 weeks at NAS JRB Fort Worth learning about some F/A-18C's I came back home to find my card dead. Shit would not start whatsoever.

 

Turned out the problem was indeed very hardware related and when I got a new card I put in the same drivers I was using before and I have never had it crash since.

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