Delta6Actual76 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I have always been interested in post-war mustangs. I have noticed that much older/heavily-used aircraft have fixed tailwheels. It turns out, it was a common practice to remove the tailwheel doors and fix the tailwheel down as a simple fix for retraction problems. I was wondering if this would be possible to model. I have not messed around with the program files for this game and don't know if this is something simple or hugely complex.
Chief1942 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Are you implying that the tail wheel was fixed so that it did not have the slightest side to side directional movement or that it was disconnected so it would not retract and permanently remain extended? Personally I can envision a multitude of issues with a tail wheel fixed permanently aligned along the long axis of the aircraft. The P-51 and most tail draggers are difficult enough as it is to taxi (steer), can't imagine NOT having a movable rear tail wheel. What advantage do you see in such a configuration? Edited January 23, 2015 by Chief1942 Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
Chief1942 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Still the question Fixed down like on some Bf109s. No revolving movement what so ever? Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
cichlidfan Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 No revolving movement what so ever? I believe he is talking about the wheel being fixed in place so that it cannot be retracted along with the main gear. I suspect rotation was not disabled. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Delta6Actual76 Posted January 23, 2015 Author Posted January 23, 2015 Perhaps I could have been a little more clear. This was a retraction issue only. Basically made into a non-retractable tailwheel. Whether it was steerable or not was not an issue. Otherwise you'd have to take off on railroad tracks! I was hoping there was a way to model a "beater" Mustang in service way past its prime as shown by the attached photograph (note the Mustangs in service with Hueys!)
Chief1942 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I sensed that was what you were inferring, but as you said. I wasn't clear on the specifics. It's all good! Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
Friedrich-4B Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Just for interest, this is from a 1954 Flight Handbook on the F-51D: Edited January 29, 2015 by Friedrich-4/B Image missing for some reason [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE
Delta6Actual76 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Posted February 11, 2015 Any takers? I still don't know how to modify this myself...
rodion_herrera Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 It's now September 2022 and still no one has an answer to this question (because I do need it for a project).
Doughguy Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 Its most likely hard coded. and youd need to modify the model,which, id doubt ED will hand out. https://sr-f.de/
grafspee Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 You could try to damage tail wheel, maybe then it won't retract. System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor
Ala13_ManOWar Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, rodion_herrera said: It's now September 2022 and still no one has an answer to this question (because I do need it for a project). Yeah, it happens when a stupid request is stupid in 2015 and still stupid in 2022 or 2032 . Sometimes I believe certain people think of this like an open menu restaurant where you can order anything and the cook will make you whatever just because your pretty face. I mean, really guys? Let me clarify the thing. No, it's not "just" making the tail wheel fixed and that's all, an "easy five minutes copy paste code thing" as some people think about so many things in DCS. If you make tail wheel fixed it has an impact on flight model, which you have to calculate, it would be like having another more model in the module. It would be like asking the Bf109K to have the fixed tail wheel, more usually than not welded gear doors and fixed tail wheel, and/or main gear doors removed as it were the case again more often than not. And then again, why keep it K-4 when you almost have a G-10 with all those modifications? Yeah, no, I'm not saying that kind of things wouldn't be interesting and appealing for the sim, planeset, mission makers and all, but it's like a new aircraft on top of the aircraft already having two models in one. It wouldn't be """just""", definitely no. Make it a request in the wishlist and perhaps at some point, definitely not tomorrow, devs can do something with regards to it. But sneaking it at main thread, or bug list like some people do sometimes, won't make it less of a wishlist request, and not an easy one. Edited September 16, 2022 by Ala13_ManOWar 1 "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
OLD CROW Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ala13_ManOWar said: Yeah, it happens when a stupid request is stupid in 2015 and still stupid in 2022 or 2032 . Sometimes I believe certain people think of this like an open menu restaurant where you can order anything and the cook will make you whatever just because your pretty face. I mean, really guys? A wise person told once there's no stupid question but stupids answers.... Following your 3 Michelen Star thoughts..... More people than you think ask for anything special and out of menu and maybe chef/cook has no time to personally answer them but, in a good maners (politely) way, send back the waitress/waiter and tell those picky customers is not possible their demand in that time. It usually worked before 2015 I'm pretty sure it doesn't work in 2022 and I'm totally sure it won't work in 2032 if people like you say what you've said in the way you've said cause you're wrongly confident for saying that. Do I need to attach any emogi you to understand what I've said? I only attach a Pablo Neruda's poem fragment: Me gustas cuando callas y estás como distante. Y estás como quejándote, mariposa en arrullo. Y me oyes desde lejos, y mi voz no te alcanza: déjame que me calle con el silencio tuyo. 1 A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
Ala13_ManOWar Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, OLD CROW said: A wise person told once there's no stupid question but stupids answers.... Following your 3 Michelen Star thoughts..... More people than you think ask for anything special and out of menu and maybe chef/cook has no time to personally answer them but, in a good maners (politely) way, send back the waitress/waiter and tell those picky customers is not possible their demand in that time. It usually worked before 2015 I'm pretty sure it doesn't work in 2022 and I'm totally sure it won't work in 2032 if people like you say what you've said in the way you've said cause you're wrongly confident for saying that. Do I need to attach any emogi you to understand what I've said? I only attach a Pablo Neruda's poem fragment: Me gustas cuando callas y estás como distante. Y estás como quejándote, mariposa en arrullo. Y me oyes desde lejos, y mi voz no te alcanza: déjame que me calle con el silencio tuyo. Yeah, because that kind of answers boasting a clear superiority syndrome while obviating some things are always helpful either . PM me if you'd like to talk more widely and I'll explain something you didn't get. 1 "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
OLD CROW Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ala13_ManOWar said: PM me if you'd like to talk more widely and I'll explain something you didn't get. 1 hour ago, OLD CROW said: déjame que me calle con el silencio tuyo. A simple Human being's Passion [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]
Ala13_ManOWar Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 Whatever, but I'd really like to explain something you obviously don't know about me and my words. It's your fault assuming too far from me, not mine, but… "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
grafspee Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) @rodion_herrera In mission editor you can set failures, After setting this i end up with this, i think it is as close as you can get. You just need to wait 1 or 2 min before take off, so the failures kick in. Edited September 16, 2022 by grafspee 2 1 System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor
rodion_herrera Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 Thank you Graf Spee, this is exactly what I was looking for, I too was contemplating on the failure tables, but just didn't know the way to access it. Laughing so hard at the ManOWar/OldCrow pissing battle now. Cheers guys, it's only a game. 1 1
Ala13_ManOWar Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 I know, too many people take it too serious, even my words are taken too serious and out of context but that's story of my life, pretty used to it . 1 "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
DB 605 Posted September 20, 2022 Posted September 20, 2022 On 9/17/2022 at 1:18 AM, grafspee said: @rodion_herrera In mission editor you can set failures, After setting this i end up with this, i think it is as close as you can get. You just need to wait 1 or 2 min before take off, so the failures kick in. Sadly this option is not available on K4. For some reason it have a lot less failures to choose.. CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
grafspee Posted September 21, 2022 Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, DB 605 said: Sadly this option is not available on K4. For some reason it have a lot less failures to choose.. I know the reason, German engineering, a lot more fail proof, some systems just can not fail. Edited September 21, 2022 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor
DB 605 Posted September 21, 2022 Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, grafspee said: I know the reason, German engineering, a lot more fail proof, some systems just can not fail. Haha sure, i would like to agree but i'm afraid that was not exactly true especially at 1944-45. Edited September 21, 2022 by DB 605 CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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