mobo died didnt have time to back up

[leafer]

If I get new mobo, cpu n install windows on brand new drive, set my old drives as slaves, Ill still be able to run all the programs On my old drives, right?

[OnlyforDCS]

You might be able to get them to run, but they wont be registered on the Windows registry and as far as DCS is concerned I think you will have to use up one of your activations.

[leafer]

I have two drives one of which has windows 7 installed w dcs zbrush 3ds max n bunch of programs. All those programs r registered to this windows registry. Installing another windows on a brand new drive n set it as master shouldnt do anything to the old windows registry right?

[Cibit]

If I get new mobo, cpu n install windows on brand new drive, set my old drives as slaves, Ill still be able to run all the programs On my old drives, right?

I just did a new instal on my machine and added a new HDD. Its a pain to get everything set up however most things work with a wee bit of tweaking.

For Steam I was able to boot to my old OS and backup game files then re installed steam on new OS and restore files from the saved backup.

 

 

DCS cost me activations for all modules but thats no drama.

 

Stuff like 7zip Ccleaner etc just redownloaded and installed fresh

 

Hope this helps. Oh are you replacing like for like?

[OnlyforDCS]

I have two drives one of which has windows 7 installed w dcs zbrush 3ds max n bunch of programs. All those programs r registered to this windows registry. Installing another windows on a brand new drive n set it as master shouldnt do anything to the old windows registry right?

 

Nope it shouldnt. But changing the MOBO can screw up a registry. (It did in my case). I had to reinstall windows, I couldnt get it to work any other way.

[leafer]

iIt'll be completely different socket mobo n CPU. A new HD w possibly windows 8. Yeah I think I got it now. Those programs on the old drives won't run on new windows so I'd have to boot into my old windows.

 

thanks, guys. This is an epic bummer but it wasnt unexpected. This comp is olddd.

Edited January 26, 2015 by leafer

[Cnuke]

Sorry to hear mate :-(

 

If you think about the activations for DCS modules, it might work to deactivate them in a separate windows install. As I lost my SSD last year :cry: and my speedy DCS with it. I did a trick.

 

A bit advanced stuff (AND risky if you don't know what to do), but basically it comes to the fact that you can copy/import registry entries from your old disk/windows-install to your new install (I can't say anything about going from win7 to registry of windows 8, I only have win7 and did it with win7 to win7). And then use the de-activation tool per module from the /bin dir.

After it is copied in your registry , you can directly de-activate the modules one by one. (I used the old dcs world/seperate module installs without the module-manager).

 

Anyway it's not so important at all with the activations of DCS, it's an idea.

Might be able to save some programs from the old disk as well. Just go through your data.

 

As long you have a new but good & stable PC platform to use. Goodluck !

Edited January 28, 2015 by Cnuke

[slowhand]

what about a duel boot and you keep everything in place?but I think if you do a dirty install w/ that older drive you may have trouble..:mad:

[Pilotasso]

If I get new mobo, cpu n install windows on brand new drive, set my old drives as slaves, Ill still be able to run all the programs On my old drives, right?

 

ASROCK motherboard?

[leafer]

Slow, I have no choice but to do a dual boot. I have bunch of max files in that windows 7 drive and a bunch of work I had written; I'm having the worst hernia right now.

 

 

I'm debating between Asrock z97 killer, GIGABYTE Z97X Gaming 3 and MSI z97 gaming 5. Though I'm not sure if I want another MSI which is the dead mobo sitting at home. Man this completely screwed up my yearly budget. lol I was hoping to get a wacom intuos pro next month. dammit.

 

I've been looking at prices online and I might get an AMD. I know Intel blows the pants out of them but i3 is the best I can afford if I went Intel while FX-8320E costs 33 usd less than cheapest i5.

Edited January 26, 2015 by leafer

[Bucic]

I think even more experienced than you would go for a clean Windows install. If they are sensible that is :)

Re your question in the OP. Some programs will work, most won't. In general I would keep your entire old system partition somewhere safe to be able to reach for what you need whenever you need to, explore what you can restore and what can't be restored. Install a fresh system for your new HW. If you restore anything, do it only on per single application. Never import your entire old registry or copy over everything from your entite Documents and settings.

 

I personally took advantage of such situations. I took note which of my programs worked after a clean system install.

 

I can almost guarantee you'd be better of installing the registry-based apps. Restoring registry branches is as cumbersome as it gets with no guarantee of success.

 

A typical modern Windows program has information assigned in registry (installation information) and Documents and Settings.**

Many other programs use other combinations.

 

EDIT:

EXAMPLES:

1. DCS

Ask on the forums whether you can spare an activation in your situation.

2. Firefox or any other typical app**

Install a fresh Fox and copy your firefox settings(profile) fom your old system (from Documents and settings). Test.

3. An app using registry to store settings...

Etc.

 

CPU

Just remember,you need clock speed, not cores.

Edited January 27, 2015 by Bucic

[leafer]

Thanks, Bucic. I'll do clean install, of course. I can't stand typing on this tiny screen so apologies for my brief reply. I'm definitely getting i3 but am still reading up on mobos. Still trying to grasp what's the sweet spot price wise. Yes, ive come to accept ill lose most of the programs. Im terrible at organizing and will have to hunt down all the fam pics, music n

junk accumulated on my 2 drives over the years. That's what I dread the most.

[Bucic]

Before you go i3 read on frame times

http://techreport.com/review/21516/inside-the-second-a-new-look-at-game-benchmarking

http://techreport.com/review/26977/intel-core-i7-5960x-processor-reviewed/6

 

Is this even for DCS? I forgot to ask.

[leafer]

definitely a DCS machine but not just. 3d modeling drawing n painting take up bigger chunk of my PC time now.

[Bucic]

OK, so frame times is something to consider.

 

I reckon on your tight budget you don't plan to OC? With a $40 cooler I got a 3.5 -> 4.5 GHz result on my AMD FX6300 with a $50 mobo. In a well ventilated case.

[leafer]

Oohh. Do tell. That fx is available and affordable here. How well does it handle dcs, 3d modeling n rendering? Im willing to OC if itll get me thrre.

[Bucic]

Oohh. Do tell. That fx is available and affordable here. How well does it handle dcs, 3d modeling n rendering? Im willing to OC if itll get me thrre.

First, I'd find an ArmA 3 set of benchmark results to see whether the FX is worth pursuing instead of what you planned initially. ArmA 3 is not optimized for multi-core processors, just like DCS. If vanilla-only results are available for the FX extrapolate the results proportionally to clock speed increase minus few percent. Correct me if I'm wrong here, anyone.

 

Second, like I said OC will require good cooling setup.

 

Third, cooling will not be the only increase in the overall cost. It may result from added efforts to acquire decent (OC-targeted is not required!) hardware:

- PSU*

- mobo - in accordance with the list of mobos suitable for OC http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

- surprises ;) (I spent additional money on fans to replace the overstressed stock whiners in my case)

 

*don't spend money on power you don't need. For example a solid 450W unit is the minimum for an OC-ed FX6300+Radeon6850

http://www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/product_a1_1_1&lv0=1&lv1=71&no=248

That's right. 450, not 750 and not 1.2K.

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

 

I can't tell you how 6300 performs in DCS. I don't have DCS installed.

[leafer]

why don't you have dcs? it,s free..

 

my hyper 212 n corsair 750 would be sufficient them. I have bonus money coming end of Feb n if I didn't have to budget for a new HD n windows os id have enough for a proper system. I'll read your links.

[Bucic]

Waiting for 2.0, some controls...

 

Extra money? Then you should re-consider intel vs amd again. Remember, you're after single-core performance as far as DCS goes. In such a case there may well be that you should chose AMD only in a OC-ed AMD vs locked Intel scenario.

 

One more thing.

You can check my overclockers.com forum profile. The few threads I've started there show my journey from a clueless overclocker to a self-sufficient one. I also tend to rephrase and clean up the contents of guides I've followed as OC guides are usually poorly written and hard to follow.

[leafer]

you're giving me too much credit. :D im not gonna overclock. if i screwed up id be out of a lot of money. my desd comp lasted 4 yrs, never overclocked, n id very much like the new one to survive much longer. ive been reading up on 6300 vs i3 n the one thing everyone agreed on is intel is future proof. i have a month to decide so ill be sure to educate myself before throwing my money around.

[Bucic]

The truth is if you have a mobo from the list I linked it's impossible to pork your hardware even if you start increasing voltages. Increase - test - increase - test (fails a test) - one step back - test - done. In FX you only use the multiplier then some extra voltage.

But yeah, you should take own limitations into account.

 

'Future proof'

There's no such thing as far as CPUs go. CPU has a certain performance and that's it. Mobos can be future proof i.e. they may allow upgrading to a next gen CPU. I don't know who has a better 'oh, we've added an extra pin in our year+1 CPUs so you have to buy a new mobo with that extra contact' record.

[leafer]

two mobo choices here. asrock 990fx extreme 3 or gigabyte 990fxa ud3 rev3. I only see the gigabyte on the list in ur link. other fx drawbacks ive to consider is heat n power consumption. it is hot n humid all yr round in this country. another disadvantage is its weak single threaded performance. significantly less than intel from what ive read. the one thing it has going for it is price which is why i keep flip flopping. i wish these reviewers would test the fx series w dcs.

 

well, i meant i may, in the future, throw money at i5 or i7 when i think of future proof. those r expensive but they blow the fxs away. this from a man who had bought amd up until my last two systems. im no intel fanboy.

[leafer]

bought an fx 6300. :)

[leafer]

no idea what eent wrong here. cpu fan stopped woring twice n bought times i got bsod. turned out fan worked fine when plugged to different header so i kept using it. a few weeks later i decided to add 2 more fans n that was when the mobo stopped working. all the fans worked when i hit power button though. weird.

[Bucic]

bought an fx 6300. :)

Could you share links to benchmarks you relied on?

 

Power consumption shouldn't be awful if you use the default Windows power profile. Then it disables cores if they seem not necessary for the workload.