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I had never seen that spitfire with a DB 605 or similar engine before. Bit like a reverse Buchon ..

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The first shot with the Gladiators isn't a German swastika, it is in Finnish markings.

 

Interesting stuff.

 

Actually, in this case it is a German swastika.

 

Here's the Finnish one:

 

 

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Very interesting indeed. Both sides captured and tested each other's aircraft during WW2.

 

A German pilot virtually handed a FW190 to the RAF when he got lost whilst flying over the Bristol Channel and landed at RAF Pembrey, South Wales.

 

Luckily he was captured before he could set fire to it after he realised his mistake.

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Thank you for correction. Though red is a bit hard to make out from a black and white photo. :)

No worries. like everything else, it's easy when you know how. At least that what my grandfather said about flying with the RFC :)

 

Black & white is often all you get, so at a glace your left with other clues to make an identification. Like I said it's a question of orientation between the Finnish & Latvian roundels, Finnish on the flat / Latvian on the point, like the German. However the German swastika was only ever placed on the tail and although it was initially applied in a white circle on a red band, this practice ended shortly after hostilities broke out in WW2, whereas the Fins and Latvians never placed them on the tail at all, just wings and fuse only.

 

After that the fins had a sensible habit of starting their aircraft serial numbers with letters that helped to identify the type of aircraft. Like GL-XXX for the Gladiator & MT-XXX, Messerschmitt, BL-XXX Bristol Blenheim, BW-XXX Brewster Buffalo, PE-XXX Petlyakov Pe-2, LG-XXX LaGG-3, MS-XXX Morane-Saulnier 406,407 & finaly "Mörkö-Morane" or "LaGG Morane" a local field mod running with the Klimov engine, and so on and on. It made sense as they had such a large variety of types.

 

So with all this in mind our Latvian Gladiator was never going to be Finnish :) But ironically enough it could have been German.

 

Some Latvian Gladiators changed hands twice, once from Latvia to the Russians then from the Russians to the Germans. Apparently ending up towing gliders in flying schools.

 

At the risk of sounding like a WW2 plane spotter I'm gonna hang up my parka now :)

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No worries. like everything else, it's easy when you know how. At least that what my grandfather said about flying with the RFC :)

 

Black & white is often all you get, so at a glace your left with other clues to make an identification. Like I said it's a question of orientation between the Finnish & Latvian roundels, Finnish on the flat / Latvian on the point, like the German. However the German swastika was only ever placed on the tail and although it was initially applied in a white circle on a red band, this practice ended shortly after hostilities broke out in WW2, whereas the Fins and Latvians never placed them on the tail at all, just wings and fuse only.

 

After that the fins had a sensible habit of starting their aircraft serial numbers with letters that helped to identify the type of aircraft. Like GL-XXX for the Gladiator & MT-XXX, Messerschmitt, BL-XXX Bristol Blenheim, BW-XXX Brewster Buffalo, PE-XXX Petlyakov Pe-2, LG-XXX LaGG-3, MS-XXX Morane-Saulnier 406,407 & finaly "Mörkö-Morane" or "LaGG Morane" a local field mod running with the Klimov engine, and so on and on. It made sense as they had such a large variety of types.

 

So with all this in mind our Latvian Gladiator was never going to be Finnish :) But ironically enough it could have been German.

 

Some Latvian Gladiators changed hands twice, once from Latvia to the Russians then from the Russians to the Germans. Apparently ending up towing gliders in flying schools.

 

At the risk of sounding like a WW2 plane spotter I'm gonna hang up my parka now :)

 

We still continue to use that convention to this date: Mig-21s were MGs, Drakens were DKs, Hawks are HWs and Hornets are HNs. :)

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