Weta43 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Who me? - I don't care - sounds like a good idea that could make for interesting dogfights - & I know you've been looking forward to it for a while. To me - if everone's agreed beforehand - I figure you could lope S-300's onto your plane & it wouldn't be cheating. It's only "cheating" if you intentionally LOPE a payload that you know (or could reasonably be expected to know) is not allowed on a server. Cheers.
nscode Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Hmmm.... interesting idea :D Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
504 Wolverine Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 :-) I've edited my post to "So all those people flying Su-27 in 1.01 & using EA's are cheating?" The point is this "Correction: payload not reflecting RL is cheating" is not always true. (see iguanaking's ongoing complaint about the rockets loaded to the A-10 ingame) I was only talking about the 504th server in this thread. The 504th server runs with 1.12a and I doubt anyone with 1.01 can connect to it. As for the A-10 rocket pods, as soon as ED include the proper rocket pods into Lock-on they will be included onto the A-10 weapons allowed in the 504th server. [/url]
TucksonSonny Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Correction: payload not reflecting RL is cheating:) talking only about the 504th server... Taking into account that ED is trying to reflect RL situation as best as they can with the latest version which is 1.12a. BTW, if I can find RL proof of R-77’s loaded on the Su-27 can I load them on the 504th server? I guess that a print screen (not Photoshop edited) is proof! :beer: DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
504Goon Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Well, if you find proof that Su-27SK can use R-77 then be my guest..:D Of course you need to convince me that the info is true, and that will be "quite" difficult.. 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
504 Wolverine Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 Taking into account that ED is trying to reflect RL situation as best as they can with the latest version which is 1.12a. Yes they are but they still have a bit to go, with some weapons not available on specific hardpoints (r.e. the R-77 on the MiG-29S outer pylons) and some weapons not being modeled at all. BTW, if I can find RL proof of R-77’s loaded on the Su-27 can I load them on the 504th server? I guess that a print screen (not Photoshop edited) is proof! :beer: No. The Su-27S which is modelled in lock-on CANNOT carry the R-77. It is only the Su-27 SMK phase 1 and younger models that can carry the R-77. A list of weapons that can be used in the 504th server has been posted on the 504th forums. These (or default 1.12a) weapons can be used. People failing to comply to this and continuing to use weapons not allowed will be getting a warning/banned. [/url]
TucksonSonny Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Yes they are but they still have a bit to go, with some weapons not available on specific hardpoints (r.e. the R-77 on the MiG-29S outer pylons) and some weapons not being modeled at all. No. The Su-27S which is modelled in lock-on CANNOT carry the R-77. It is only the Su-27 SMK phase 1 and younger models that can carry the R-77. A list of weapons that can be used in the 504th server has been posted on the 504th forums. These (or default 1.12a) weapons can be used. People failing to comply to this and continuing to use weapons not allowed will be getting a warning/banned. Do you realize that the Su-27S went through an upgrade program (kind of one like F-16A MLU getting AIM-9X)? Not that I am trying to cheat (I would never do that) but this thread is showing that you guy’s are NOT sure of one's ground. Anyway the loadout list is a solution but is complicated (people will turn up with mods). DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
britgliderpilot Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Do you realize that the Su-27S went through an upgrade program (kind of one like F-16A MLU getting AIM-9X)? Not that I am trying to cheat (I would never do that) but this thread is showing that you guy’s are NOT sure of one's ground. Anyway the loadout list is a solution but is complicated (people will turn up with mods). IIRC, the only upgrade for service aircraft is the current one, from Su27S to Su27SM standard. Su27SM is not the version modelled in Lomac . . . . . Su27S is, which was the original version to enter service. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
504 Wolverine Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 Do you realize that the Su-27S went through an upgrade program (kind of one like F-16A MLU getting AIM-9X)? RL upgrades aside the Su-27 variant modeled in lock-on is the Su-27S. When/if ED change this to model the Su-27SM and include the improved N001V phased array radar with R-77 support we will do likewise but ATM it is still only the Su-27S. Not that I am trying to cheat (I would never do that) but this thread is showing that you guy’s are NOT sure of one's ground. We are very sure of what is allowed and not allowed in our own server. Anyway the loadout list is a solution but is complicated (people will turn up with mods). Weapons load for the 504th server is listed, there is now no excuse for ignorance, if anyone turns up with other mods, they will be banned. End of story [/url]
TucksonSonny Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 IIRC, the only upgrade for service aircraft is the current one, from Su27S to Su27SM standard. Su27SM is not the version modelled in Lomac . . . . . Su27S is, which was the original version to enter service. Our famous Su-27S serial number 04 does not exist anymore in RL and it became the Su-27SM S/N 04 with 1 R-77 loaded on the inner pylons (see picture). I know that ED modelled the Su-27S but my point is RL is not Su-27S anymore! I have problems with the RL word that is all. What if people fly with number 04? Ok, just joking! :) DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
504Goon Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Just like you said.. it was Su-27S and became Su-27SM, which we do not have modelled in lockon. 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
GGTharos Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Uh, the Su-27S is still the Su-27S. Only a very, very few have gotten the SM upgrade. Get over it ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
TucksonSonny Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Uh, the Su-27S is still the Su-27S. Only a very, very few have gotten the SM upgrade. Get over it ;) He he he: you can’t forbid me to fly with number 04 (Anyway with standard 1.12a loadout) :megalol: DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
GGTharos Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Doesn't much matter which number you use ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
TucksonSonny Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Doesn't much matter which number you use ;) Did I confuse you somehow? :beer: DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
Alfa Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 Our famous Su-27S serial number 04 does not exist anymore in RL and it became the Su-27SM S/N 04 with 1 R-77 loaded on the inner pylons (see picture). I know that ED modelled the Su-27S but my point is RL is not Su-27S anymore! I have problems with the RL word that is all. What if people fly with number 04? Ok, just joking! :) TucksonSonny, An Su-27S upgraded to Su-27SM standard means that it has become entirely different aircraft. What you suggest would be like saying that the MiG-29A should be allowed to carry the R-77 in Lock-on because there are a couple of MiG-29SMTs with this capability in real life ;) . Cheers, - JJ. JJ
Kusch Posted June 5, 2006 Posted June 5, 2006 Scandal!!! Another big cheater!!! Check this. http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=podwieszenia9au.jpg Alfa, does the loadout we accept reflect real life? Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
chrno120 Posted June 5, 2006 Posted June 5, 2006 :lol: has a complete passive system, independent of the radar, very manueverable but has very very short range, can launched using a j-pole & h-pole :lol: The most stupid member in the forum
RvETito Posted June 5, 2006 Posted June 5, 2006 :lol: has a complete passive system, independent of the radar, very manueverable but has very very short range, can launched using a j-pole & h-pole :lol: I suppose it's seeker isn't too smart :D Probably can be easily fooled by a glass of beer. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Weta43 Posted June 5, 2006 Posted June 5, 2006 launched using a j-pole & h-pole spoofed by a pole dancer Cheers.
GGTharos Posted June 5, 2006 Posted June 5, 2006 Scandal!!! Another big cheater!!! Check this. http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=podwieszenia9au.jpg Alfa, does the loadout we accept reflect real life? *sigh* I'll forward it to ED ... a couple commandos/igla guys will go on the racks from now on. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Alfa Posted June 5, 2006 Posted June 5, 2006 Scandal!!! Another big cheater!!! Check this. http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=podwieszenia9au.jpg Alfa, does the loadout we accept reflect real life? LOL...good one :D . Cheers, - JJ. JJ
Force_Feedback Posted June 5, 2006 Posted June 5, 2006 By flapping with their hands they will extend the range with at least 500km :P Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
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