CNC by trial and error!

[LynxDK]

Im guessing its the Caution Light panel?

[Deadman]

:doh:

[Warhog]

:doh:

 

::lol: .... :music_whistling:

 

Hey DM

 

Not to worry my friend. This hobby has so many f**king acronym's its hard to keep up or in my case ...REMEMBER:(

 

As to your earlier post... Yes, the only stick font available for free that's any good (assuming you have some version of AutoCAD) is the romans.shx font. The military fonts are pretty much a no go unless somebody has a stick font version of them that I don't know about.

 

Please keep in mind that stick fonts are what rotary engravers work with. When it comes to laser engravers... I have no idea:huh: . But I expect lasers would be more versatile and offer a completely different feature set than a RE would since its older technology. (BTW DM...RE is short for rotary engraver :lol:). Just pulling your chain DM. Wait till your my age. You need to carry a little book around just to decipher a simple email. What can I say? Gettin old really sucks...right Gordy!:P

 

So who has a laser on this forum and is doing engraving? Care to chime in re: fonts and military fonts and what results your getting.

[LynxDK]

I have to say that i accually have no problems with fonts.

 

I can engrave all fonts, with great results... simply by pocketing.

 

All you can see i engraved is done that way.

[Deadman]

Phone answer was messed up ya Warhog i usually try to spell any thing out and then put the three letter abbreviation in Parentheses (TLA) The abbreviations are a bit much.

OKthis makes the four real fonts relevant and replicas possible. Lynx what software are you using? I personally don't want to make light plates it would be great if some one want to make plates that are replicas and back light able.

Have I ever mentioned that ... I *Really* Hate these Three dots ... all most as much as the * asterisk* some grammar lovers use

Edited October 1, 2015 by Deadman

[metalnwood]

I engrave the same fonts, any TT font on the laser and the CNC. Like Lynx says, you are just pocketing when doing it with a rotary engraver.

 

It's pretty quick too, quicker than the laser.

[Deadman]

Hum sounds like Warhog has some king of a glitch.

SO is there an interest in accurate back light able panel plans?

[LynxDK]

Sry Deadman, Those thee dots has been with me too long, i cant just let them go like that :P

 

As for the Light plates, i am going to make a complete set available for the A-10C, Backlit with Aluminum Backplate, to fit the rest of my cockpit.

 

But problaly not 100% correct design, since i dont have the real panels to go from. :)

 

Sry about topic change :), To get back to the topic, im using CamBam, and Mach3. and im only engraving like 0.05mm or less at a time when engraving, with a 0.2mm engraving bit.

 

This gives me some very fine lines.

[Deadman]

So then your not interested in accurate DxF files on panels. OK may be some one else will be. I am looking for some one that wants to make high quality products is all. Ya I hate cute smile faces as well what is this FB? J/K

[ClayM]

Rolling On Floor Laughing (ROFL)

 

Deadman (DM)

 

Please change your tagline to...

 

Computer Numerical Controls (CNCs) and Laser Engravers (LEs) are great but they can't do squat without a precise set of plans...:thumbup:

 

DM

 

Are you saying the rest of us are making low quality products? If I just wanted to sit in a plywood box with some toggle switches that did *something* then i would not be going to all this expense and effort and bothering all the supportive people on this forum.

 

I think it is safe to say we are all interested in making accurate panels.

 

IHTG ( I have to go ). Wife calling.

 

Clay

[LynxDK]

Im not on FB :)

 

DM, If you are offering the dxf's for me to make panels for the community i wont say no of Course. But thats not my decision to make, and i would never ask you for them, since thats your work.

 

But as everything i do, im not charging people for the time i use for designing and developing, only the accual time it takes me to make the final product. But we shouldnt talk about this in this thread, we can start a new thread or PM.

Edited September 30, 2015 by LynxDK

[ClayM]

LynxDK

 

Feel free to discuss here!

 

I would love to hear this!

 

DM

 

May i ask what continent your on?

 

Clay

[Deadman]

Can't quote you in my sig you used those damned dots...

 

Are you saying I am not supportive?

 

No I did not say the rest of you were making low quality. I would not call what you have made a replica it is the best you can do with the limited information on the web. IE there is not much.

 

As to the quality of the items there is no way to form an opinion with out seeing the parts. I have only see one picture of your cockpit on an angle so not much to form an opinion on your work.

 

Lynx I think I have clearly stated what I am looking for get a hold of me if you want you have my Skype.

 

 

Rolling On Floor Laughing (ROFL)

 

Deadman (DM)

 

Please change your tagline to...

 

Computer Numerical Controls (CNCs) and Laser Engravers (LEs) are great but they can't do squat without a precise set of plans...:thumbup:

 

DM

 

Are you saying the rest of us are making low quality products? If I just wanted to sit in a plywood box with some toggle switches that did *something* then i would not be going to all this expense and effort and bothering all the supportive people on this forum.

 

I think it is safe to say we are all interested in making accurate panels.

 

IHTG ( I have to go ). Wife calling.

 

Clay

Edited September 30, 2015 by Deadman

[Deadman]

What does the continent I live on have any thing to do with the current conversation? North American By the way.

[ClayM]

DM

 

LynxDk is in Denmark.

 

Just trying to think about shipping costs.

 

Why are you not producing anything yourself?

 

Thanks

 

Clay

[Deadman]

HI Clay yes I know where Lynx is located I have helped him out with quite a few dimensions foot pedals for the rudder pedals bezels for the Altimeter the VVI the Airspeed and for the IP 1310 ALR I a;ll so gave him the correct fonts for the panels.

 

You did not answer my question "Are you saying I am not supportive?"

 

I am not making parts do to the lack of interaction by the community. I have offered to make some things with little to no response.

 

As far as purchasing a CNC router or a laser engraver I am on a fixed budget and I don't see a demand for the panels.

 

There is all so quite a few people making their versions of panels Lars , LynxDK ,Deezle, agrasyuk and Firedawg advertising panel making as well as hegykc making everything Flim has just released his version of an A-10 pit and ACESII. If I have missed any one please forgive me . There for the purchase of those tools is not a reasonable investment.

 

I have Made in the past

WHTM covers

A-10C replica knobs

A-10C replica handles

A-10C cockpit stickers

A-10C exterior decals

[metalnwood]

DM, I am sure Clay is big enough to answer himself but as someone on the side reading the thread I dont think he was implying any anything about youy at all.

 

All I took from his statement was that if he was not interested in making good panels he would not bother taking time from all the supportive people on the forum. That includes anyone that contributes imho.

[ClayM]

DM

 

Is it safe to assume that when you say " people making their own versions of panels" means that their product is not accurate and not a reasonable representation of the original?

 

How about you tell me who's making DM approved panels and I'll throw my wanna be cnc machine in garbage and buy those. It would save me trouble of trying to make them.

 

Back to the task at hand.

 

I seem to be having some difficulty getting nice text. Its either to thick or to thin. I'm going to do some tests with the same sample text and start at .002" depth and increase by .0005" and see what results I get. I will try same depths at different x y to see if it is a leveling or machine alignment issue.

[Warhog]

Post some pics of what's happening Clay. Also some more detail as to when , where etc. It sounds as though your z axis is not being consistent. What's changed from the last time it cut good lettering?

 

John

 

@DM, I agree with how MnW (new acronym:music_whistling:) is reading the comments. No issue here.

 

Let's leave it at that and talk more CNC.:thumbup:

[Deadman]

@ metalnwood it seams he wont answer the question.

 

@ClayM now that's not a nice attitude to have. I have not seen any back lit panels that have the correct font are mounted to aluminum plates for stability with Mil spec switches and are back lit (addition) A correct graphic displayed on the panel as well. I have offered the drawing and basically get crap in return thanks so much

 

@ Warhog I though you would at least appreciate the correct fonts and the ability to use them aw well. At least i offered.

 

Yes Its the end back to CNC

Edited October 1, 2015 by Deadman
spelling and addition to statement.

[agrasyuk]

. I have not seen any back lit panels that have the correct font are mounted to aluminum plates for stability with Mil spec switches and are back lit?

 

;)

 

 

 

Alas, I'm not offering that or any other panel at the moment. Racing to complete my deck before the cold sets in.

 

 

ADD:

So then your not interested in accurate DxF files on panels. OK may be some one else will be. I am looking for some one that wants to make high quality products is all.

 

You have dxf panel drawings available? I'd love to see those. A screenshot maybe?

Edited October 1, 2015 by agrasyuk

[Deadman]

Nice to see you got the spelling changed / or did not make the same mistake as most others have.

Get the correct font and stick in the bright arrow and you would be hard to tell the different. Nicely layed out for the osram alpa numerical displays. So once you get the right font add the arrow this would change my statement.

[agrasyuk]

I don't remember showing this off before, not sure what is the common mistake others make, I went of the picture of actual device. The arrow is engraved on the panel that is facing down :doh: RTN button frame is also not shown. screen module shown is indeed for dot matrix led displays (has matching PCB as well). If it gets there i will make a module to house readily available 1602 display as well for those who can't afford the matrix LEDs.

 

Correct font... Well , you know very well that I asked about it, in Lynx thread the last time. You never replied, Lynx replied that he is not authorized to share this info. Hence I conclude that this is a guarded trade secret. Which is really fine by me, manufacturers not often openly share their trade secrets that could jeopardize their competitive edge. But with this in mind your suggestion to use correct font reads like "use the correct font, BUT you don't know which one ! Muhahaha!"

I asked. The one thing I'm not going to do is beg. Nor i'm going to cancel any of my projects when missing less then critical info. MS font squshed ~20% vertically seems close enough

 

Best regards

[ClayM]

agrasyuk

 

Very nice work! That is the quality I am trying to achieve. One day hopefully I get there.

 

Also

 

I agree with your response to DM. Feel the same way.On one hand he says there is no demand for panels. On the other hand he claims to know every detail but wants to maintain control of this info. I think he believes there money to be made here. Yet if there is no demand how can it be profitable? Or

he actually NEEDS someone to make panels for him and in exchange he will share his holy grail of panel info.

 

The one fact here is that I still value DMs opinion and have a lot of respect for what he's done for others in the community.

 

Clay

[Deadman]

No Clay you have missed the point I value my time in the months of research in to finding the correct fonts. I believe a maker should be compensated for his work as he sees fit. Shouldn't I all be afforded the same? I have actually in private offers Anton and other manufacturers of parts advice with they are free to take or disregard. I did want to get some one to manufacture back lit face plates at a reasonable price for form members that would fit the aluminum back plates I will be selling as a service to members it makes sense for things to fit together don't you think?