DCS Pirate F14 Squadron

[pered]

Since the F14 is going to be a super popular module, I wondered, how about starting a small select squadron of pilot's and rio's that would be well trained and flying together? No lonewolving or mixed flying, no, just pure F14 awesomeness. Maybe even have a small website with useful resources and a forum. Obviously, I need people to back me up and join me and my team, and if I don't get nobody interested, well, oh well.

 

Anyway, here's the goodies for the livery (provisional for the idea, the squadron would obviously "paint" the planes as per their likings by feedbacking to the repainter):

 

 

 

Kamov Pere

[Cool Breeze]

An excellent concept for the skins! I think the basis for the squadron are excellent, standout pilots and RIOs! I'm looking forward to learning the backseat as much as the front! In the cast of soon to be released DCS aircraft I'm not sure how many would fly the the Tomcat exclusively though. Good luck recruiting I can't wait to see t that skin in game! Good hunting and best of flying!

[BSS_Sniper]

I'm guessing people are going to do that kind of stuff with the groups they already fly with. That's how we will do it.

[Frisco1522]

Right on! Just the sort of thing I was looking for.

I had an idea for an F-14 squadron a little while ago and was looking for others to get one started.

I want everything you are describing. (Well trained, Multi-crew, no Lone-Wolfing ("Never Leave your wing man!"))

 

Also, with the idea of getting the planes repainted, does that mean we get our own names and kill decals under the canopy? Because that would be awesome! :thumbup:

 

And Cobra said that we COULD get the option to change our helmet skins in the future. That would be cool.

Perhaps we will even include those as options for the pilot, even if fictitious as well. (amongst many other helmet variations)

 

I also had an idea for if we had a squadron, to include the F-18, and F-5 (if they are ever actually released) and use them for some DACT. BlackLion213 can back me up on this.

 

Frisco1522

[BlackLion213]

Right on! Just the sort of thing I was looking for.

I had an idea for an F-14 squadron a little while ago and was looking for others to get one started.

I want everything you are describing. (Well trained, Multi-crew, no Lone-Wolfing ("Never Leave your wing man!"))

 

Also, with the idea of getting the planes repainted, does that mean we get our own names and kill decals under the canopy? Because that would be awesome! :thumbup:

 

And Cobra said that we COULD get the option to change our helmet skins in the future. That would be cool.

 

 

I also had an idea for if we had a squadron, to include the F-18, and F-5 (if they are ever actually released) and use them for some DACT. BlackLion213 can back me up on this.

 

Frisco1522

 

Yes, I think we need something like this, though I would prefer something less "Pirate-like".

 

Otherwise, it sounds great.

 

-Nick

[pered]

I had this cool logo lying around for the tail. Of course the members of the group would jointly decide our names and stuff.

[Cobra847]

 

And Cobra said that we COULD get the option to change our helmet skins in the future. That would be cool.

 

 

 

 

Frisco1522

 

You can replace any texture in the game by using the livery system as long as you know the material name. Basically, I wouldn't expect not to paint your own custom helmet.

 

We just might provide a.. different way to do so.

[pered]

Right on!

 

 

 

Also, with the idea of getting the planes repainted, does that mean we get our own names and kill decals under the canopy? Because that would be awesome! :thumbup:

 

 

 

 

 

I also had an idea for if we had a squadron, to include the F-18, and F-5 (if they are ever actually released)

 

 

 

Frisco1522

 

 

I was thinking more F14 specialised and pitch perfect. Yes members could get repainted aircraft and stuff.

[Frisco1522]

Yes, I think we need something like this, though I would prefer something less "Pirate-like".

 

Otherwise, it sounds great.

 

-Nick

 

Let me guess, you were looking for more black lions and 213s everywhere? :music_whistling:

 

Frisco1522

[BlackLion213]

Let me guess, you were looking for more black lions and 213s everywhere? :music_whistling:

 

Frisco1522

 

Well...not necessarily. :)

 

I'd say that the Tomcat has a very rich heritage and it would be nice to integrate that into a virtual squadron.

 

I think that would be more fun than a purely fictitious squadron IMHO. Plus, DCS is all about detail and creating a true-to-life flight/combat experience. Anyway, my 2 cents. We could also do the flying circus squadron where we fly a wide-variety of different schemes to each players preference. The key is to get together and enjoy flying the Tomcat - thats all I need.

 

-Nick

[Tirak]

Well...not necessarily. :)

 

I'd say that the Tomcat has a very rich heritage and it would be nice to integrate that into a virtual squadron.

 

I think that would be more fun than a purely fictitious squadron IMHO. Plus, DCS is all about detail and creating a true-to-life flight/combat experience. Anyway, my 2 cents. We could also do the flying circus squadron where we fly a wide-variety of different schemes to each players preference. The key is to get together and enjoy flying the Tomcat - thats all I need.

 

-Nick

 

I think this is where DCS splits into two camps regarding what 'true to life' is, experience or history. I find that taking on the airs of a real squadron is like playing dress up. It's not your history, it's not your heritage. A fictitious squadron on the other hand? That's your legacy, you made the moments that you and your squadron mates talk about, you were involved in the inside jokes, and if your squadron does well enough, it's you your opponents talk about.

 

It's sort of the same idea behind the people who demand absolute accuracy of theater and aircraft, vs those of us who prefer things to remain fluid. Let the tech be real, but the circumstances be fun.

 

Anyway, my 2c.

[pered]

I think this is where DCS splits into two camps regarding what 'true to life' is, experience or history. I find that taking on the airs of a real squadron is like playing dress up. It's not your history, it's not your heritage. A fictitious squadron on the other hand? That's your legacy, you made the moments that you and your squadron mates talk about, you were involved in the inside jokes, and if your squadron does well enough, it's you your opponents talk about.

 

It's sort of the same idea behind the people who demand absolute accuracy of theater and aircraft, vs those of us who prefer things to remain fluid. Let the tech be real, but the circumstances be fun.

 

Anyway, my 2c.

 

I agree completely, it's basically about the pride of the squadron, I mean you could be VF4s or VF84 at any point in the game, but you won't care about the livery that much after a while, and you'll end up lonewolving, or flying on another virtual squadron.

 

Just thought it'd be quite nice to have a specialised squad that everybody knows about in DCS

[BlackLion213]

I find that taking on the airs of a real squadron is like playing dress up.

 

Well, isn't that the case with everything in DCS? People are interested in simulating something that they cannot currently experience first hand?

 

In any case, such an organization is what you make of it. The name is pretty irrelevant, whether purely fictitious or harking back to something in the past. Naming the squadron "Virtual VF-111 or Virtual VF-14" doesn't carry more legitimacy or imply the need for operational accuracy any more than anything else.

 

I was merely expressing my preference for seeing the F-14 in accurate markings - it's an aesthetic preference, I just like the way that it looks better.

 

My 2 cents as well,

 

Nick

[NeilWillis]

I would join, but I haven't lost my left leg below the knee, and my parrot never stops swearing!

 

Oh and can you get this black spot to blind pew?

 

Seriously though, It would be excellent to see such an in depth organisation.

[Stratos]

Pered are you from the Balearic Islands? I'm from Amposta, south Catalonia, and will gladly join the Tomcat squadron.

[pered]

Pered are you from the Balearic Islands? I'm from Amposta, south Catalonia, and will gladly join the Tomcat squadron.

 

If you're on Cavallers del Cel we probably know each other.

[pered]

We need to decide on a name jointly for this squad. Lets get some suggestions rolling.

[Dudikoff]

I'd say that the Tomcat has a very rich heritage and it would be nice to integrate that into a virtual squadron.

I think that would be more fun than a purely fictitious squadron IMHO. Plus, DCS is all about detail and creating a true-to-life flight/combat experience. Anyway, my 2 cents.

 

Or you could have dumped the PC and just shouted "Blasphemy!" to the OP :)

[pered]

I would join, but I haven't lost my left leg below the knee, and my parrot never stops swearing!

 

Oh and can you get this black spot to blind pew?

 

Seriously though, It would be excellent to see such an in depth organisation.

 

If you want to be part of it, stay tuned!

[BlackLion213]

Or you could have dumped the PC and just shouted "Blasphemy!" to the OP :)

 

Oh certainly not...:huh:

 

I don't believe in blasphemy for this sort of thing. And I like it when we disagree, there is so little to be gained from everyone sharing an identical view.

 

I like the fact that we are discussing these things, I just made a suggestion based on my preferences. :)

 

Much of this simply relates to how you like your entertainment:

 

-Master and Commander vs Pirates of the Caribbean

-Galdiator vs Rome (HBO series)

-Black Hawk Down vs Hot Shots, Part Deux

 

These are all films that I really enjoy, but they take different degrees of artistic license and fictionalization. If a group of people want to get together, then we should discuss what degree should be present for something like this. My intention was to open the conversation, not close it. (Hence I used terms like "prefer").

 

Does anyone else have thoughts on the matter?

 

Tirak, you seem to enjoy dress-up at least as much as I do ;)...are you interested in such a thing and what would you prefer?

 

My personal vote would to follow in the foot-steps of groups like virtual VFA-113. Or create a virtual air wing (CVW...???) to offer more platforms.

 

However, I'm still interested in DCS Pirate squadron, DCS Flying Circus (I wasn't kidding - I like this idea, excellent potential for variety), and anything else that is put forth for consideration.

 

Best,

 

Nick

[steel_tiger1]

The tomcat is the only thing I have been really interested in flying. So I would like to be in on this. Although admittedly I need more sim time.

[pered]

DCS Leatherbacks?

[Frisco1522]

Oh boy this is the fun question! :smartass:

First off, here is a list of all the Squadrons who posessed Tomcats. (from www.anft.net squadron page) This means that anything on the list is already taken and probably cannot/should not be used.

 

[TABLE]Squadron Nickname Establ./Receive F-14s Disestabl./Transition

Grumman

VF-1 Wolfpack 14 Oct. 1972 1 Oct. 1993

VF-2 Bounty Hunters 14 Oct. 1972 2003

VF-11 Red Rippers mid 1980 early 2005

VF-14 Tophatters July 1973 Oct. 2001

VF-21 Freelancers early 1984 Jan. 1996

VF-24 Renegades Dec. 1975 Aug. 1996

VF-31 Tomcatters Aug. 1980 Sept 2006

VF-32 Swordsmen July 1973 Oct 2005

VF-33 Starfighters June 1981 24 Sept. 1993

VF-41 Black Aces April 1976 Oct. 2001

VF-51 Screaming Eagles May 1976 16 Feb. 1995

VF-74 Be-Devilers early 1983 28 April 1994

VF-84 Jolly Rogers June 1976 late 1995

VF-101 Grim Reapers late 1975 Sept 2005

VF-102 Diamondbacks mid 1981 March 2002

VF-103 Jolly Rogers (former Sluggers) early 1983 early 2005

VF-111 Sundowners mid 1976 16 Feb. 1995

VF-114 Aardvarks early 1976 28 Jan. 1993

VF-124 Gunfighters 1972 30 Sept. 1994

VF-142 Ghostriders late 1974 March 1995

VF-143 Pukin' Dogs late 1974 early 2005

VF-154 Black Knights early 1984 Sept. 2003

VF-191 Satan's Kittens 4 Dec. 1986 Sept. 1988

VF-194 Red Lightnings 1 Dec. 1986 Sept. 1988

VF-201 Hunters Oct. 1986 Dec. 1998

VF-202 Superheats March 1987 9 July 1994

VF-211 Checkmates 1 Dec. 1975 Sept. 2004

VF-213 Black Lions early 1976 April 2006

VF-301 Devil's Disciples Oct. 1984 11 Sept. 1994

VF-302 Stallions April 1985 11 Sept. 1994

VF-1285 Fighting Fubijars 1980 (?) 1994 (?)

VF-1485 Americans 1980 1994 (?)

VF-1486 Fighting Hobos 1980 early 1990s

VX-4 Evaluators late 1972 30 Sept. 1994

VX-9 Vampires late 1994 June 2004

VX-30 redesignated NSATS (see NAWC)

VX-31 redesignated NWTS (see NAWC)

NAWC Naval Air Warfare Center:

NWTS, NSATS, PMTC & NWC

NATC Naval Air Test Center

NFWS

 

NSAWC Navy Fighter Weapons School

Naval Strike & Air Warfare Center 1970 2003

NASA National Aeronautics & Space Administration 1979 1987

IIAF -

IRIAF Imperial Iranian Air Force -

Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force 24 Jan. 1977 today[/TABLE]

 

When I make a decision for something like this, I like to combine elements together (Easter eggs, let's call them) to create something new, but still stiff and clear of its heritage/origin.

 

Here are some of my Squadron Name ideas

1. VF-847 "The Cobras"
   This idea should seem obvious, because of Cobra's name on the forums being Cobra847, us seeming to have a parallel between Cobra and Leatherneck sims since he does most of the posting, and it shocked me to learn that there wasn't already a squadron called the Cobras, because its an awesome name and I really like it.
   
2. VF-18 "The Griffins"
   The 8 symbolizes that there are 8 members of Leatherneck, and that they are (MY OPINION) #1 among the 3rd party devs, for F-14 reasons. The Griffin part comes from (what I believe to be (and I am almost certain I am entirely wrong)) the town of Świnoujście which I believe is where Leatherneck is mainly based at. Świnoujście's flag/coat of arms consists of a Griffin holding an Anchor, which seem perfect to me for an F-14 squadron.
   
    
   
3. VF-54 "The Fleet Defenders"
   The 54 represents the AIM-54 Phoenix missile, which was used (along with the F-14) by the Navy as its main defense against high altitude Soviet bombers and cruise missiles. The fleet defenders part, you should be able to figure that one out. :P
   
4. VF-303 "The Turkeys"
   The 303 represents Grumman's model 303 for the VFX program, which was the winning design in the VFX program and was later refined and built into the F-14A we know today. The turkeys comes from the name of an F-14 when it is approaching the carrier and the pilot is making adjustments to the flight path of the aircraft in order to land on the carrier safely. This sorta shows the reason
   

I might try to make some sort of rough sketches of the logo/shield designs, but I am no artist and such a task should probably be left to someone more artistically inclined than myself.

 

Hope this helps get the ball rolling!

 

Frisco1522

 

P.S. What about the idea of being a land based Iranian F-14 squadron? Get to play as redfor, fight F-15s/other F-14s. Would probably stand out from the other squadrons.

P.P.S. This is my 100th post! Woo!

Edited October 7, 2015 by Frisco1522

[BlackLion213]

[*]VF-303 "The Turkeys"

The 303 represents Grumman's model 303 for the VFX program, which was the winning design in the VFX program and was later refined and built into the F-14A we know today. The turkeys comes from the name of an F-14 when it is approaching the carrier and the pilot is making adjustments to the flight path of the aircraft in order to land on the carrier safely. This sorta shows the reason

 

Frisco1522

 

P.S. What about the idea of being a land based Iranian F-14 squadron? Get to play as redfor, fight F-15s/other F-14s. Would probably stand out from the other squadrons.

P.P.S. This is my 100th post! Woo!

 

I really like the VF-303 "The Turkeys" idea. It's very "Tomcat-ish", for the reasons you mentioned. It's not hyperbolic/super aggressive. Also, it leans Pacific squadron - because VF-301 and VF-302 were Miramar based reserve squadrons.

 

Let me think and see if I have any other ideas - but I really like this one.

 

-Nick

[captain_dalan]

The only reason i haven't flown DCS is because there was no jet for it i really wanted to fly and admittedly the F-14 is probably my favorite jet (along with F-8 ) so when it comes out it will most likely be the only jet i'll fly. I would like to participate in this project, i don't know if i can make through the squadron obligations and RL. But if the time zones and training/missions aren't to prohibitive you can count on me.