ricktoberfest Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I've noticed that in the 1.5 beta that if your engine rpm level is too low than various things don't work properly (flaps, brakes, NWS) My question is if this is correct behavior for the NWS. It seems silly that you have to rev the engine just to steer- especially since it's hydraulics doing the work. The hydraulic pressure seems to be in the normal range at idle rpm. Oh get that the pump needs electricity but if the pressure is high enough it should still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I've noticed that in the 1.5 beta that if your engine rpm level is too low than various things don't work properly (flaps, brakes, NWS) My question is if this is correct behavior for the NWS. It seems silly that you have to rev the engine just to steer- especially since it's hydraulics doing the work. The hydraulic pressure seems to be in the normal range at idle rpm. Oh get that the pump needs electricity but if the pressure is high enough it should still work. See the product pages: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/sabre/?PAGEN_1=3 Utility System is powered by an engine driven pump, not the electrical pump. It drives the NWS and brakes. If you pay very close attention to the utility system diagram, you'll also spot it has no accumulator as part of normal operations (unlike primary and secondary), so operation of the system is very much reliant on the engine pump. The accumulator it does have is behind two one way check valves and is solely for emergency use to lower the nose gear. To be honest idle in the F86 is quite low, you need at least 50%+ to have the generator kick in and I suspect similar is required to maintain a decent pressure in the utility hydro system. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 That makes sense, but if the hydraulic pressure is too low to operate flaps/NWS, would that not be reflected in the hydraulic pressure gauge? In my experience it appears to stay in the green regardless of engine RPM. I mostly fly the F-18, and mostly as a flight sim rather than a combat sim. Gigabyte Aorus Pro Wifi, Ryzen 5 3600, GTX 1080, 16gb DDR4 3600, Valve Index TM Stick/Throttle, Saitek Pedals, VAICOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevelle Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Don't have the F-86, so I can't check this. If you switch the hydraulic pressure gauge selector to Utility, does it maintain pressure in that system at idle? To check the pressure of each of the independent hydraulic systems, you have to use the switch next to the hydraulic pressure gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIKBELL Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 If the hydraulic gauge show 3000 that noseshould turn no matter the rpm of the aircraft. There are 2 categories of fighter pilots: those who have performed, and those who someday will perform, a magnificent defensive break turn toward a bug on the canopy. Robert Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevelle Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 If the hydarulic pressure gauge is measuring the pressure of the Utility system, then I would assume so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxvanwyk Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 On Idle only the right wing flap is active with input.......weird or normal? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 On Idle only the right wing flap is active with input.......weird or normal? Partially normal, but partially a possible bug, as discussed here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=148418 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIKBELL Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Most hydraulic pumps are constant speed drives. There are 2 categories of fighter pilots: those who have performed, and those who someday will perform, a magnificent defensive break turn toward a bug on the canopy. Robert Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabuzard Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Also make sure you're using the Normal Hydraulic System and not the Backup as the Sabre uses the Backup system during startup. You can flip a switch after startup to change the system as explained here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2339476&postcount=7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Most hydraulic pumps are constant speed drives. Yes, but like any constant speed drive, it's only constant speed within a certain input range. Someone will have look into the specific pump on the F86 to see if it has a minimum speed that's higher than the engine's normal idle speed or not. Probably not, but you never know. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Riiiight, just had a play with this. There's definitely a strong dependancy on engine RPM vs Utility System pressure currently in the sim. Around 50% or so and NWS was draining it heavily, upping the RPM to ~70% and the pressure was simply not going down. Does anyone know if the utility pump is actually supposed to be a constant speed drive or not? Might have found a small bug if it is. Approx 54% RPM holds at about 2050 PSI when doing nothing, well into the yellow range. Edited October 17, 2015 by Buzzles Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion13 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Generator on line cue. When the Radar Inverter Warning Light goes out, the generator is online, around 45% power. Don't give me a P-38, The props they counter-rotate, They're battered and smitten from Burma to Britain. Oh, give me operations way out on some lonely atoll, For I am too young to die, I just want to grow old. From "THE WILD BLUE YONDER" by Oscar Brand and The Roger Wilco Four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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