auto lockon question

[Arbitrator]

one question about the auto acquisition modes which are the vertical and boresight modes. in lomac, the auto mode is no matter what, a target goes into the scan zoom, the radar will automatically lock it up and good for a missile shot. but anywhere else, such as in all the movies i've seen, the fighter pilots have to either manually lock it up or something like wait for the second lock, i don't know what is it, for example such as Top Gun, Macross Zero, and X-men II, in these movies, on the hud of the f-16(in X-men), f-14 (in Macross), within visual range, it's like there is a box around the target on the hud, but there is also another designator thing is following the target's movement on the hud, and til the designator falls on the target, then there is a lockon and shoot cue, the close combat lockon is a lot more complicate than the f-15, mig29 and su's in lomac. same with Top Gun, it seems like everytime they have to manually lock the targets up in close range? it takes those pilots for ever to get a lock even in close range, see how long tom cruise has follow his bandit on the rear and just trying to get a lock, if it's in lomac, the bandit should be gone ages ago. i know maybe the old fighters are like that before the auto acquisition mode come out, but f16? is it just a hollywood thing that makes air combat cool or it's something that's not model in lomac?

[GGTharos]

It's a hollywood thing.

 

I suggest next time finding some real cockpit movies to compare to instead of anime and entertainment movies - these systems are modelled more or less correctly.

[zorlac]

I`m sorry, I dont know whether to laugh or cry....

 

If you are thinking that "Top Gun" (or any hollywood film) is a realistic and accurate portrayal of combat flights, then you are going to be very disappointed. Hollywood know that to get the customers in, they need up-close-and-personal (and totally unrealistic) flying and combat and HUD displays... nothing interesting (for film watchers) in shooting your missiles at a "blip" on the radar, or a dot on your HUD, which then stops "blipping" 20-40 seconds later, and you go home.

[Arbitrator]

thx! i knew the unrealistic things, just didn't think it's on that extend.

[tflash]

This "thing" was moddelled in f-22 TAW also: it's the AIM-9M seeker movement that is portrayed on the hud. You have the square with the lock from your radar, and if the sidewinder is slaved to it, its moving seeker will after a second or so also lock onto the target, together with the "growl".

 

I don't know if something like that exists in reality, but it is moddelled not nly in Hollywood movies but also in older games.

[Gunja]

... nothing interesting (for film watchers) in shooting your missiles at a "blip" on the radar, or a dot on your HUD, which then stops "blipping" 20-40 seconds later, and you go home.

so true :lol:

[Crusty]

Hello Ken, I dont like being a spelling nazi...honest, but when you try and write something that gives the impression you are wise and cool in your signature, it really fecks it up when you misspell

in the context of your sentance it should be spelled .."WASTE"

[Arbitrator]

sorry, dude, always got confuse with these two, i did something similar in the past, just couldn't remember them. i'm still learning this language. but thank you very much, i hope this experience will make me clear it out forever.

oh, btw, everybody is welcome to correct my writing, i rather mess up and learn here than embarrass myself in the future.

thx again!!!

[ARM505]

'We're out of range!' yells Maverick - meanwhile, the A4 in front of him is basically peeling the paint from his radome with it's exhaust :) Good for a laugh...

[Force_Feedback]

X-men II had the most realistic ejection sequence I ever saw in a Hollywood movie, very impressive.

Just check all those hudcams of VWR combat on Patrick's site.

[plug pray]

Arbitrator:

Reading the first post i was almost expecting you to mention the Hot shots movie...

Sry, just kiddin).