After last patch, 27ER's performance is very weak again

[NineLine]

Cool discussion chaps, but the main questions that really need answering are the following:

 

Who is responsible for missile and CM effectiveness testing, making adjustments etc.?

 

What were the parameters changed from the previous patch?

 

Why were they changed and what is the logic behind it, especially if things for radar missiles looked pretty good in previous patch? Why backtrack again?

 

Why on earth was the change NOT Logged, and who is the scrappy tester that failed to report this in the log? -- for any software developer this would be a cardinal sin.

 

Everything else is just an opinionated fanboy discussion, IMO.

 

You need to cool your jets there friend, things happen, this is beta after all, that I am aware of no changes were made on purpose, if there is an issue, try submitting a real bug report, otherwise lets mature up a little bit, ok?

 

Need help, look at my sig, should help you make a useful bug report.

[ShuRugal]

"Used appropriately" is a subjective phrase as is "proper tactics". I use them with nearly perfect effectivity on fighters 10-20km from me head on, with the sky as background, they rarely get spoofed by chaff.

 

The problem with this is that 10-20 km is so far inside the missile's designed operational range that it's practically a joke. The average stated effective range against a head-on target i can find online for the ER is better than 80 km (quick google search reveals claims between 60 and 150 km, with most tending towards 70-100). It is neither "proper tactics" nor "appropriate use" to hold fire on a missile until you are 1/8th its designed engagement range from the target. At 10-20 km, you should already have switched to R-73 and fired one, forget about R-27.

[Breakshot]

Jets are running nominal, always. But thanks. No harm intended.

 

I'd be curious to know though what has been adjusted. Anyone got an idea?

[NineLine]

Jets are running nominal, always. But thanks

 

Not sure how to take that, but if you guys dont have solid information to add about any bugs, I suggest you just not post. If you guys want something done, share tracks and information. If you continue to try insult members, testers or ED, you will see how accurate my shots are. Period.

 

We don't want to pick through 50 posts of white noise to find any sort of good info. SO I am going to close this thread, and someone with good bug reporting skills can feel free to open a new bug thread, include all we have asked for, again... find it in my sig if you need help.