USB 3 and Warthog

[DD_Crash]

Is the TM Warthog and MFDs compatible with USB 3 ports? Any issues?

[DD_Crash]

I found this thread so it looks good to me :)

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=118367

[hansangb]

I'd stick with USB2. For me, the MFDs sometimes blink on and off when plugged into USB3 hub. Move it to a USB 2.0 hub, and it's fine.

 

And with folks having trouble updating on USB3, I'd stick with USB2. It's not as if TM needs the added BW that USB3 brings to the table.

[dburne]

And with folks having trouble updating on USB3, I'd stick with USB2. It's not as if TM needs the added BW that USB3 brings to the table.

 

This - save those valuable USB3 ports for devices that can benefit from the bandwidth, they will do nothing for the WH that a USB2 port can't do.

[Livers]

I've been using my stick and throttle through a switched 4-port 3.0 hub for a month, no problems yet. FWIW, that hub is fed with external power and via 2.0 motherboard port.

[slicker55]

As it happens only yesterday I contacted Tech Support to discuss a different issue and the technician actually mentioned a few things about USB.

 

First, I need to explain that I ran into quite a few problems with my Saitek X-55 and Combat Pedals when I first upgraded my motherboard to the X-99 platform. Everything had worked fine before the upgrade but there are some well documented USB connectivity issues that I wasn't aware of until running into these problems myself.

 

To cut a long story short, I eventually got everything to work by installing a PCIe USB 2.0 card and connecting this to a powered USB hub.

 

For some strange reason, using the onboard USB 2.0 ports simply didn't fix the issues I was having. (system wouldn't POST and/or freeze before OS loaded).

 

So, back to yesterday, I mentioned this to the technician and he advised against using USB hubs as this can lead to data lag and corruption. He also stated that the controllers should be connected using USB 2.0 ports.

[DD_Crash]

Just for info the USB connections I have are

1/ TM Warthog stick

2/ TM Warthog throttle

3/ Bodnar board for trim

4&5 cougar MFD

6/ Saitek pedals (soon to be replaced by Crosswinds :) )

7/ TrackIR 4

8/ TrackIR Clip

9/ Power for Roccat Kave headphones

10/ Keyboard

11/ Mouse

 

none of the above are USB 3 My MB is a MSI Z97 Gaming 5 with 6 USB 2 and 4 USB 2 + a Pci-E 4x USB 3

I think I will use the mouse, keyboard and both the power USB plugs on the USB 3 sockets. I have had a look on the NaturalPoint forum and didnt see any posts about USB 3 issues so it looks like that will be on a USB 3 as well

[slicker55]

Where are you having your Crosswind's from... there seems to be quite a delay in getting hold of these even if ordered now (ETA Feb 2016)

Edited December 15, 2015 by slicker55

[DD_Crash]

Conformation of the order said January (ordered 2 November)

[dburne]

I ordered mine in October and they have just been produced and shipping today.

Actually it is a considerably faster turn around ( 2 months) than it was earlier. Not long ago guys were waiting for several months.

I ordered mine on 10/22.

[slicker55]

dburne,

 

I'm thinking of ordering and sorry to be the unfortunate one who has to break this to you but in Croatia there is a saying... Last In, First Served...

 

LOL

[dburne]

dburne,

 

I'm thinking of ordering and sorry to be the unfortunate one who has to break this to you but in Croatia there is a saying... Last In, First Served...

 

LOL

 

LOL, sorry but I already got a tracking number and my serial number for the pedals!

 

You mean you have not placed the order yet? Yegads!

[slicker55]

:lol:

 

You're not biting!

 

:detective:

[dburne]

:lol:

 

You're not biting!

 

 

Course not!

 

:D

[FeistyLemur]

Mines plugged into a USB3 capable hub, but the hub itself is plugged into a USB2 port. It works fine that way for what it's worth. Honestly never tried it in a USB3 port because it seemed like asking for it.

[MPK]

I found that using the controls worked fine with USB3.0.

 

However when I started experimenting with the target code to write custom logic for the lights on the throttle base, I saw a significant delay in lighting or extinguishing the LEDs when using USB3.0. The LEDs responded immediately when using USB2.0.

 

I never worked out what the problem could be, so I have my controls connected via USB2.0 ports for now.

[SnorreSelmer]

I got my Warthog stick and throttle around summer 2014. I have both plugged into a USB hub, and in my experience, plugging the hub into a USB3 port is bad. It works fine a lot of the time, but sometimes I see the lights on the throttle blink off and on again at random intervals. What happens is that the throttle loses connection to the PC for a few seconds and is discovered again. Incredibly frustrating. After moving the hub to a USB2 port I've had no problems at all.

 

And yes, I have tried plugging the TMWH into the USB3 directly with the same result. ASUS has decided (in their infinite wisdom) to sell a motherboard with a ton of onboard USB headers and nothing to plug in them. I happened to have one USB2 and one USB3 backplate adapter lying around, but I'm REALLY lacking USB-ports atm...

Edited December 16, 2015 by SnorreSelmer

[DD_Crash]

Thanks for the replies, I would be surprised if TM hadnt thoroughly tested their hardware on USB3 but the MDFs are quite an old design so they are going on USB2

[hansangb]

I don't think USB3 was around when the TM Warthog was released. Can't fault them for that.