X-55's Heavy Throttle Friction

[Devrim]

Hi all!

 

I have a question guys.

 

You do know that Rhino's throttle friction is noticeably heavy. Even if you adjust tightness at the lightest end, you get really heavy feel.

 

But! Here, if I really force the throttle to move forward and aft with faster speed, and if I do that many times, the throttle's resistance gets loose after 3~5 (fwd-aft force) try. This is interesting. For a moment heavy throttle goes away. Then, I leave the throttle. After a couple minutes I see that heavy throttle is back again!

 

If I'll fly a jet, it's OK, but I do that and loose throttle if I use Ka-50 or Huey.

 

What I wonder is that is this the same on your device?

 

Thank you.

[Ciribob]

Exactly the same on mine. Leave the throttle in a sun beam and it gets loose too. I guess the friction warms up the grease.

 

For helicopters, I split the throttle and use the left for throttle and the right for collective and the friction seems just right for me :)

[Gladman]

After some use it loosens up and stays that way. I have mine on the lowest friction setting and leave it there. I don't know about the sun thing but it sounds realistic.

[Devrim]

Thanks for replies.

...split the throttle and use the left for throttle and the right for collective and the friction seems just right for me :)

Yea, tried that. I get really nice result in that way, but ... I don't know... I couldn't get used to single throttle, especially in combat flight. :)

[Gladman]

I have them joined. Give it a bit of time, it'll be fine.

[Deezle]

The problem is the grease they use. You can take apart and attempt to remove the tacky grease, it's quite a chore.

[fitness88]

The problem is the grease they use. You can take apart and attempt to remove the tacky grease, it's quite a chore.

 

Yes it is the grease.

[Devrim]

Thanks so much guys!.

[ebabil]

Devrim selam,

are you happy with x-55? i had x-52 for a while but i had hated it. because bottom of the stick used to "stick" to it's base while manuevering. so i had to apply more force to get rid of this friction and after some point it used to cause over manuever.

 

in Turkish; joystick, manevra yaparken alttaki birleşme noktasındaki plastik kısma sürtüyordu. bu sebeple takılıyordu, bu takılmadan kurtulmak icin fazladan güç uygulamak gerekiyordu, sonuç saçma sapan manevralar :)

[Devrim]

Merhaba. :)

 

In English; This is a quote from X52 vs X55 topic:

Hi.

 

I'm new X-55 user after four-year X-52 usage. :P

I sold my X-52Pro to a friend of mine and got the Rhino.

 

Pros:

 

• I like the toggle switches. They're gathered on throttle base. That's nice because I hated X-52's buttons (on its MFD) and toggle switches on stick base.
  
• I like additional two 8-way hats on throttle. Very very very very useful. Same, I like extra 1 hat on stick.
  
• Rotaries on throttle are easy turning, no resistance like X-52.
  
• I like the movement feeling of stick. It's different from X-52, but need to get used to it.
  

 

Cons:

• Heavy throttle. Even if adjustment is at lightest side.
  
• All buttons need really more pressure to press! It's like they were made for heavy-duty! X-52's buttons were very soft.
  
• As they say stick has placement issues comparing to X-52. I'm not talking about distance between some hats. The head of stick should have been placed in forward position a little bit. You need to take your thumb back too much to touch any hat.
  
• I realized that two-stage trigger was really important thing!
  
• Mouse stick feeling is same as X-52Pro but stick has no sensitivity. Stick goes to at the end (no matter it's X or Y), but requires more pressure to send command to PC. I don't know maybe mine one has problem.
  

 

Overall, I really need to get used to it after X-52Pro. Last week I was very eager to buy X-55, but now, if they ask me that if I want X-55 again, I think I would hesitate to sold my beauty X-52Pro. Actually I'm aware of that I need a little time. My fingers try to re-learn positions of hats and buttons. Maybe that's normal... :)

About friction in X-52 stick, yes I (remember) agree on that. I tried some oil/grease something, but I can't say it worked great. My last thought was that I can live with that, but only if I fly jets. You know, in helicopters you need more movement area while using stick, and this problem annoying you too much while flying a helicopter.

 

In Turkish; :)

Abi... :) X-55'te öyle bir problem yok. Görünüm aynı. Üst kısmında yay olan ters bir tabak ve bir plastik şaseye oturuyor. Görünüm aynı, ama çalışma şekli ve hissi tamamen farklı. Kolay bir hareketle kolu en uç noktaya yatırıveriyorsun. Ha, 52'de ilk zamanlarda nasıldı hatırlayamıyorum. 55'te de ileride böyle mi olacak bilmiyorum, ama sanmıyorum da. Sanırım (emin değilim), daha aşağıdaki gimbal işleri farklı. Hiç de öyle sıkıntı olacakmış gibi görünmüyor. O noktada rahat olabilirsin bence. Ama, (ekleme yapayım) X-52'ye çok alıştığımdan olabilir, hâlâ 55'e alışmaya çalışıyorum. X-52 kolun ön tarafta gereksiz gördüğüm (boydan boya inen plastik destek) kısım bile işime yarıyormuş, o derece. Örneğin en tilt olduğum şey, Ralfidude'un hat pozisyonları ile ilgili eleştirisinden ziyade, baş parmağımın hat bölgesiyle yaptığı uyumsuz açı. Eğer kol dik ya da çekilmiş pozisyondaysa hiç sıkıntı yok. Fakat eğer ileri itmişsem o baş parmak tamamen işlevsiz. X-52'de diğer dört parmağımı öndeki (az önce bahsettiğim) desteğe dayayarak kolu ittiğimi ve baş parmağımı kullanabildiğimi fark ettim. X-55'te o destek yok. Bu sebeple yüzük ve serçe parmağım, fren pedalına benzer switch'i itmeye çalışıyor refleks olarak. :)

 

Neyse, hani tek problem bu olsun diye farklı bir kas koordinasyonu geliştirmeye çalışıyorum şu an. Onun dışında problem yok bence. Memnunum. Yukarıda İngilizcesini yazdıklarım var sadece. Buttonlar daha sesli. Tak tuk diye geliyor sesler. İki yönlü switch'ler bir yere organize edilmiş, güzel. Sol tarafta daha fazla 8 yönlü hat var falan, genel olarak memnunum.

 

Görüşmek üzere.

See you. :)

[Gladman]

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[Devrim]

Thanks Gladmam. :)

 

:D "Lubricate the shaft, not the ball!"

[CoBlue]

You do know that Rhino's throttle friction is noticeably heavy. Even if you adjust tightness at the lightest end, you get really heavy feel.

Hi Devrim :) take a look at this.

[Devrim]

Yes Rodd. After Gladman's video, I've seen this too. Thanks. :)

[ebabil]

 

 

@devrim, i was talking about this problem. don't you have it? it made me give up from x-52

[Devrim]

Hi. As I wrote in prev. page, yes I had that problem in X-52. I tried to use some grease, but I can't say it worked like a charm. And I've just seen how to fix in Gladman's video.