[REPORTED] Damage Model - Governor and Generator.

[NightRush]

The damage model of this aircraft is a bug/problem.

 

The frequency of governors and generators being hit with bullets is completely unrealistic. I have had my governor/electricals shot out, while being hit from behind and from high deflection shots.

 

I almost want to conceit that the prop governor should be easily damaged from the ground, but no. That too is incorrect. A bullet would need to not only fire THROUGH the propeller, but also go THROUGH the prop blade hubs, then through the propeller backing plate, and then hit an object the size of maybe two of your fists.

 

Losing a governor while being shot from behind would literally mean a bullet has passed completely through the engine block, and then still hit this two fist sized object at the far far front of the aircraft.

 

If what is actually is being modeled is the prop governor control being shot out, well that should be the same percentage chance of a elevator/aileron control cable being shot out, again not at the frequency that it currently occurs.

 

The generator is the same, being on the extreme side of the engine, protected by the cylinder heads. The only likely way this would be shot out would be an attack from a 3 o'clock position. Losing a generator to ground fire *could* be likely in a left hand turn exposing that side of the aircraft. However, if the generator was being hit by ground fire in this attitude so is the rest of the engine so there will be larger problems

 

Secondary too this, even IF the generator was shot out the battery would take the load. The opposite is also true, if the battery was shot out, the generator would continue to power electrical systems. So a complete electrical failure would require both the battery AND the generator to be shot out at the exact same time.

 

I have attached a photo showing the placement and how well concealed these two items are, hopefully illustrating how unlikely it is for these two objects to be hit or rendered unusable.

 

 

Hope this helps.

[KingPoiuy]

I agree, and I think most would. It seems odd to get this failure nearly every time. It's almost like the bullets are going through the rest of the plane too easily and the only vital parts that are destructible are these two things.

[NightRush]

Seriously though. Keep this thread alive. The damage model of the gov is beyond a joke, any even THOUGHT of ground small arms fire and you lose the governor. Get shot from behind, you lose the governor.

 

Governor loss is not what should be happening the majority of the time with battle damage.

 

This needs to be changed.

[fastfreddie]

DM will be looked at and hopefully soon. They need to get coolant, oil, and fuel loss in there first.

[HeadHunter52]

I think that governor needs the first and foremost attention. How in the world does a round come from behind and FIND that thing? It is bay far the most common fault I see, and it's hard to believe it is so vulnerable.

 

It's BURIED in there.

 

Oh yeah... I want my high octane gas.. :music_whistling:

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

Very good points and presentation in the OP.

 

I know ED / Yo-Yo are certainly busy working on their ongoing projects, but if one day they can find some time to fine tune the damage models, not only for the 51 but also for the 109, which suffers from the some governors sensitivity, that would be just great!

[Solty]

I presume reason for the governor failure is one. If governor doesn't fail, i am afraid nothing will. Engine DM is not good enough. But I agree, that getting damaged through a whole plane is just weird.

[NineLine]

FYI, this is reported, and of course part of the larger issue with the damage modelling over all.

[Merlin-27]

This has been an issue with a long long history of frustration.

 

My buddy, Whiplash, created this thread (among several others on this very topic) just over two years ago...

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=119557&highlight=prop+governor

 

Sith, is there any info you can provide that might set expectations for damage model revisions? Especially ones like this that continue to cause pain for so many.

[NineLine]

This has been an issue with a long long history of frustration.

 

My buddy, Whiplash, created this thread (among several others on this very topic) just over two years ago...

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=119557&highlight=prop+governor

 

Sith, is there any info you can provide that might set expectations for damage model revisions? Especially ones like this that continue to cause pain for so many.

 

I have no info on any sort of timeline unfortunately, for what its worth, know I am beating that drum every chance I get...

[NightRush]

Thanks Sith, if you would like more information or pictures I am gladly able to provide them

[OnlyforDCS]

2 years and counting? Oh my...