debolestis Posted September 14, 2016 Author Posted September 14, 2016 I don't have Cougar,it is probably same as FLCS. Can you post a few photos and measurments? 1 - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
AndreZero Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 I don't have Cougar,it is probably same as FLCS. Can you post a few photos and measurments? Here are some pics and measurements. let me know if you need any more. I suspect the trickyiest part will be the inner whole that locks onto the microswitch. http://imgur.com/a/0v7eH
debolestis Posted September 18, 2016 Author Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) OK, I have a button from FLCS joystick, it looks almost identical to yours. Measurements are almost identical. I added some color and material options but unfortunately there is no option for grey color. Keep in mind that it sometimes takes up to a month to produce metal parts. Plastic parts are shipped within a week. Here is a LINK. Please post feedback and a few photos here if you decide to buy this. Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
AndreZero Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 Cool! I've ordered it in plastic. If that works out well I may re-order a metal version. Thanks!
Brewnix Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 Hello Debolestis, I been thinking of buying some knobs for my X55 throttle that I placed 2 alps switches in the right handle. I was thinking for this I was going to buy 2 DMS castle knobs or F16 cursor knobs. Is there a option to get the inserts with the knobs. Like the ones you have in your alps switch holders. I had already placed knobs before you holders were developed. Here is the single post from MMjoy. Bottom Pic. Thanks! https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2819957&postcount=104 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
debolestis Posted September 18, 2016 Author Posted September 18, 2016 I'll upload it tomorrow. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
98abaile Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Sorry if it's been posted before, but what alps switch is the holder designed for?
debolestis Posted September 19, 2016 Author Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Sorry if it's been posted before, but what alps switch is the holder designed for? It is designed for Alps 5way (or 9way switch). Holder has same shape as TM 4way switches. It is not finished, I just didn't have time, I'll try to finish it soon. RKJXL100401V NAVIGATION SWITCH Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted September 19, 2016 Author Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I made model for Alps to TM knob adapter. It is HERE. It is very small and maybe few manual adjustments will be necesary. I also made taller version of Cougar/FLCS/F22 button. It can be found HERE. Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
98abaile Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Will your knobs fit the alps switch natively or do they require the adaptor as well?
debolestis Posted September 20, 2016 Author Posted September 20, 2016 Alps switch holder will include adapter for TM knobs. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Brewnix Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Ok time to share! Got my parts from Shapeways.The white inserts are perfect size the whole that goes on the alps switch was small enough that i could hollow it out alittle bit so it would fit snug on the switch.I would make the insert round on the switch side so it has room to slide down the switch shaft past the small cutout for stability. The Castle hat fits snug over the white insert. For me no screw needed for the insert. Maybe i might add drop of glue to the white insert on the switch side if it starts to get loose. It still is small enough to remove the switch through the plate i made to hold the switch it self.. Thanks Debolestis. Edited September 30, 2016 by Brewnix 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
debolestis Posted September 30, 2016 Author Posted September 30, 2016 Great work, I am so happy that it worked out fine. I got a news from Shapeways. Soon a new material is comming, black hi definition acrylate. It is as name says black colored plastic that has much nicer finish. It looks like something from factory, great for knobs. It is not strong as nylon. I made a knob for warthog, the one I posted before. It looks great. I could print in this material for myself but I couldn't sell it. Soon it will be in my store. 1 - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
AndreZero Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 OK, I have a button from FLCS joystick, it looks almost identical to yours. Here is a LINK. Please post feedback and a few photos here if you decide to buy this. I got the new button from Shapeways. It's pretty close but needs some minor modifications. Here are the original and the new one. The original has gaps that accommodate the prongs that hold the microswtich in place for the NWS button seen here: Since the other button doesn't have those prongs, I figured I could just swap them out but the head of the button is ever so slightly too big so it fits but the first time I press the button it gets locked in place. I filed the perimeter of the head of the button (thankfully I had it printed in plastic so that was easy) and then it fit! So it works but could use some tweaking. Not sure if it is a necessary feature but the notch isn't in the final print.
debolestis Posted October 7, 2016 Author Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Thank you for your feedback! I made a new model, I did it strictly to your measurements. Before I had problem with wall thickness. Two walls were to thin and I simply copied FLCS button, I thought it would be good enough. I removed notch because of wall thickens and because I think it is not necessary. Metal materials are removed, metal has even larger minimum wall thickness. You wrote that you had made modifications. Can you post photo of that mod? New model is HERE: Can you make measurements for this button? Thank you!Save Save Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
AndreZero Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 Can you make measurements for this button? Save Save Sure, Let me know if this gives you what you need This one doesn't have a bracket like the NWS switch so the hollow under the head isn't necessary. The recess for this is shaped like the "leg" on the button though I didn't measure the recess where it makes contact with the microswitch because it is identical to the other button. In fact, I took the button I ordered from shapeways and it fits in there perfectly.
debolestis Posted October 11, 2016 Author Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Thank you for your measurements! I updated the model. Shapeways added a new material, Black Hi-Def Acrylate. You can see it here: It is DMS knob. Finish is much more smoother, also much finer detail is possible with this material. I added option for it in my shop, only on knobs and buttons and paddle lever for FLCS and Cougar. Material is not as strong as nylon, I would use it for tailpieces, only in places where aesthetic is needed. Unfortunately it is 2-3 times more expensive, but cheaper than metal. DMS knob in nylon costs $5.64, and in acrylate $12.87. Edited July 9, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
SDirickson Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 How difficult it would be to modify the thumbstick on a Warthog Throttle to accept your F-16 cursor knob? I find the eraserhead style thumbstick to be difficult to move accurately and thought increasing the length and surface area might help. Any thoughts? Also, have you thought of making a few switch toppers? For example, I've wanted to convert one of the switches on the base of the Warthog Throttle into a gear lever by adding a circular topper that makes it easy to identify by feel.
98abaile Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 How difficult it would be to modify the thumbstick on a Warthog Throttle to accept your F-16 cursor knob? I find the eraserhead style thumbstick to be difficult to move accurately and thought increasing the length and surface area might help. Any thoughts? It's been tried before, a full sized knob is too heavy.
debolestis Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 How difficult it would be to modify the thumbstick on a Warthog Throttle to accept your F-16 cursor knob? I find the eraserhead style thumbstick to be difficult to move accurately and thought increasing the length and surface area might help. Any thoughts? This not a problem if you know how to disassemble it and make measurements. Than I can do it. Also, have you thought of making a few switch toppers? For example, I've wanted to convert one of the switches on the base of the Warthog Throttle into a gear lever by adding a circular topper that makes it easy to identify by feel. Please show in photo the switch that you want to mod and post an example or drawing. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Sokol1_br Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Debolestis, Thing is the "navigation switch" used for "slew/TDC" in Warthog is small and fragile. The guys that test a big cap in this find problems, e.g the cap can twist the switch. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=146073 Thrustmaster use this "mini-HAT" cap on purpose, probable to don't stress the switch mechanism. Maybe a better solution is the "HAT" inside a circle - like in TWCS, but this will require cut false HAT on throttle case. Edited October 13, 2016 by Sokol1_br
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 you dont happen to have the speedbrake switch for the cougar do? Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN.
debolestis Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately I don't have Cougar, I have older version TQS. I don't know If parts are of same dimensions. If you are willing to make measurements, than I can do it. Just take caliper an measure like in few earlier posts. Edited October 16, 2016 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 I'll have to see once it arrives. I assume tho if the cougar and older tqs are based off the same then it should be no? Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN.
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