Display sizes for Simming in General

[Headwarp]

Edited my OP to try and be more specific.

 

Is there anybody out there simming on Larger 1080p displays? Has it helped you in spotting targets without labels or made it harder?

 

Are displayport/HDMI outputs going to be able to put out 60hz refresh rates on said HDTV provided oldskool VGA ports tend to be limited at lower resolutions?

 

I don't watch TV.. I want a larger screen specifically for flight simming because I've been lead to believe it makes spotting targets easier.

 

I'm currently running on a 27" 1080p monitor with gtx 680 4gb and I'm content with that for anything else I've played recently. I usually keep my AA low or off by habit anyway using a single card solution, and shadows being the framerate killer they have always been I will set to low if my system feels sluggish in anything usually as well, but there's not been many circumstances I have had to do so.

 

So, that being said - I'm probably going to skip the 900series of cards, I'm not in some rush to get into 4k gaming or SteamVR/Oculus Rift.. TrackIR suits my needs for head tracking.

 

I'm lead to believe it's easier to spot targets in the air on a bigger screen.. and I remember how I felt when I upgraded to a 27" when playing First person shooters... it was easier to see people.

 

My main concerns are - A.) Is it going to be easier to spot targets on a 40" 1080p display as opposed to a 27" 1080p display?

B.) Are display ports/hdmi ports on said TV going to be able to run at advertised refresh rates from the display/hdmi port of a video card? (I.E. 60/120hz) Would it better to find a DVI to HDMI cable? Is there a solution for my goal?

Edited February 10, 2016 by Headwarp

[wormeaten]

Tricky question.

 

I will try to pass you some of my experience ans observation from some other people experience.

 

TV in general is not that good for gameplay, big picture look nice but latency is big and 1080p is too much pixelated even 40" size. Only better but more expensive models are suitable for play but still couldn't match quality with monitors. Only 4K TV but this is raising complete new discussion and in my opinion it is not jet time for it. So TV I'm not recommended.

 

Now we are coming to something what I think is best solution, sweet spot is Ultra Wide 21:9 34". Comparing to your monitor which is 16:9 aspect ratio.

So in general 1080p model have high of screen like your 27" so imagine your monitor is 10" wider to get picture of size and what you will get.

 

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Now we are coming to resolution. Model I show you is great for gaming especially because free sync but limitation is 1080p. There is more expensive 1440p model which is better but more expensive model without free sync or is way more expensive if have G-sync.

 

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So 1080p model is smoother and 1440p better graphic. Question is what do you really need? In gaming this difference in resolution is questionable. In one hand some game have benefit but only as eye candy with higher resolution. In flight sims this benefit is not that much in favor. General look is better but higer resolution will not help you spotting enemy better, just opposite.

 

In Il2 CloD there is trick if you lower you resolution you will spot enemy easier than those with 1080p. Simply pixels are bigger and graphic engine react always on distance in game not resolution so lower ress bigger pixels result with bigger dot(plane) on screen.

So do you need 1440p or 1080p enough for you depend on other games or needs you have.

 

About screen refresh rate higher is better only in games and not all type of games. Battlefield or similar fps yes definitely but in all sims type 60hz is more than good. Higher refresh rate get in favor only when you constantly have fast and sudden movement what is not case in sims.

Prove is again in Il2 CloD trick for eliminating tearing and stuttering by reducing fps on 30 with some video recording software.

 

So that's it see what you need and made compromise because there is no perfect solution always is some pro and cons but this 34" 21:9 is definitely today's sweet spot. Only question is do you need 1440p or you will be good with 1080p. If you are satisfied with resolution on your 27" monitor than go for 1080p and this additional 10" in wideness make huge difference.

Edited February 8, 2016 by wormeaten

[LC34]

Headwarp, I'm with you on this buddy. I still am on the fence for about 3 months about what to buy, widescreen, curved, size, 2k, 1080 p, etc.

 

Seems like everyone has their own likes and dislikes, then you have to get into the fact about what video card is good for what also.

 

But I will agree with wormeaten in that it seems like the idea of using a tv isn't the best option at the moment. I haven't tried it personally, just what I have gotten from the months of asking on forums and reading reviews.

[Headwarp]

Well I mean.. I'm fine with my 27 inch for any other game I play. I guess I should comment that much.

 

The largest PC monitor I've found was a 35" curved BenQ and that thing was like $800-900 with a much higher resolution which makes me think even if I could afford that, I'd probably want to step up to a gtx 980 or something to support it, and heck then why not bypass a bigger monitor all together and just pick up something like the Steam VR when they're here. . And I just don't have those kind of funds. At the moment.

 

The bigger screen is strictly for flight simming. I don't watch tv, I don't play console games. I spend a lot of time on my PC at home.

 

Again my major goal here is to make it easier to see targets. In DCS World and RoF I'm having a very difficult time spotting targets without labels on.

 

I'm just wondering what my options are without having to factor in the cost of a new video card. That being said I don't believe I've ever really pushed the limits of my 680 4gb.

[313_Nevo]

Anyway, what improvement is to put some extra pixels to the right and left of the screen (widescreen)? How can this improve the dots visibility when it is still 1080p?

 

Headwarp it is simple, your 27" screen with 1080p has smaller pixels than the 40" screen on 1080p (assuming 1080p is max). So it will show more pixelated on the 40".

I personally dont have any problem with pixelation as far as I see what I need.

 

So maybe try to play with the game graphics settings also, maybe you can find the sweet spot between acceptable picture and still visible things.

Edited February 8, 2016 by 313_Nevo

[wormeaten]

Well I mean.. I'm fine with my 27 inch for any other game I play. I guess I should comment that much.

 

The largest PC monitor I've found was a 35" curved BenQ and that thing was like $800-900 with a much higher resolution which makes me think even if I could afford that, I'd probably want to step up to a gtx 980 or something to support it, and heck then why not bypass a bigger monitor all together and just pick up something like the Steam VR when they're here. . And I just don't have those kind of funds. At the moment.

 

The bigger screen is strictly for flight simming. I don't watch tv, I don't play console games. I spend a lot of time on my PC at home.

 

Again my major goal here is to make it easier to see targets. In DCS World and RoF I'm having a very difficult time spotting targets without labels on.

 

I'm just wondering what my options are without having to factor in the cost of a new video card. That being said I don't believe I've ever really pushed the limits of my 680 4gb.

 

There is no big difference between 34 and 35". Acording what you say and have in mind price range LG 34UM67 is piece for you. It is 1080p but it is half price of BanQ. In that case to be able using FreeSync option for GPU is R9-390. Price range of GTX-970 but in benchmarks it is more close to GTX-980.

My friend got Samsung curved 21/9 34" 1440p and R9-380 so on LG 34UM67 with R9-390 this will fly full details without any flickering or stuttering what is great. Definitely best buy combo for DCS.

 

About VR better wait minimum 1 year if not 2. First of all lets wait for StarVR to come.

 

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Other fact with VR is that GTX-980 and R9-390 ar on limit with VR. VR have high demand for GPU power. Benefit is SLI/CF and DCS here is not standing good. There is no benefit from it in DCS yet and when will be who knows.

 

Monitor is multipurpose and there is no VR which will completely eliminate need for monitor.

[Headwarp]

Lol preaching to the wrong crowd about amd/ati. Never again. Never. :)

 

My main gripe with the 34" and 35" curved monitors out there is that the view increase is0 horizontal. This might provide more peripheral view but call me mistaken if I am, the models of objects in the air or on the ground look to be about the same size they would be.

 

I have TrackIR - scanning the horizon isn't the problem.. trying to pick a tiny little spec of nothing out of it is. I appreciate your opinion but at this point I'd like to hear from some people who have gone the low response time HDTV route, especially if they're using something other than HDMI out, to see if it's holding up for DCS.

 

Particularly one that properly utilizes dvi input, if something like that even exists. I'm not going to play FPS's on the thing.

Edited February 8, 2016 by Headwarp

[313_Nevo]

search this forums. you can find ton of recommendations, to go the HDTV 'big screen' way, from happy owners.

 

I dont want to upset my luck, but I 'guess' I will have also one such recommendation for you in some days ;)

[Headwarp]

I think eventually I might just try an older 1080p Sony Bravia or something with a vga port and go the dvi - vga route. They aren't terribly expensive. Just too much $$ to be spent trying to get into higher resolutions.

[313_Nevo]

imho the older models are better for gaming as they dont have so much features which can worse the overall performance of the TV (and maybe also the input lag).

 

also you can have a look here for models, but the first web is usa and the second is uk, when you are from other part of the world the model names can vary

usa

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

uk

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

[Headwarp]

imho the older models are better for gaming as they dont have so much features which can worse the overall performance of the TV (and maybe also the input lag).

 

also you can have a look here for models, but the first web is usa and the second is uk, when you are from other part of the world the model names can vary

usa

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

uk

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

 

 

Yeahh I'm actually rethinking the bravia it's vga port does not sound like it's going to be useful.

 

 

*edit* -In regards to searching these forums, that's whats making me determined to find a solution. That lead to me making this post.

 

After doing some research, and ultimately why I didn't buy a 1080p TV for dirt cheap years ago.. was the "PC" input thing. VGA ports are apparently not the way to go if wanting to utilize a TV. And per Nevo's suggestion prior the quoted post - I actually am rethinking this idea AFTER having searched these forums. That's what lead to me wanting to go bigger in the first place. Strictly for flight simming. I'm very content with my 27" @ 1080p for FPS gaming. Prior to that I was using an NEC 20.1" @1680x1050 and while it still is a great monitor (I have it sitting next to my 27" for when I used to run 2 clients in Eve Online at the same time). When I first got the 27" I was like "Wow I can actually see people in *Insert FPS game here*" and became the guy people go after because he just killed your whole team.

 

I was never going for surround or anything.. the gtx 680 4gb handles what's been thrown at it, albeit some games out there these days I might still choose to run without AA and set shadows to low, I feel comfortable to skip the 900 series. I'm just fine sticking with TrackIR for flying rather than jumping on the VR bandwagon. A game like Elite: Dangerous I tend to not have issues because of it's radar system, albeit it can be hard finding smoke trails and little specs moving beyond 6-7KM.. and there are also lasers being shot by the things I intend to destroy in that game often times.

 

But DCS? RoF? The only indication I have of someone being near me (Minus radar in DCS which I'm still learning) is a visual spotting of them. Spare me the "Labels aren't cheating". I'm using them when applicable now..but in the su-25t/su-27 training mission where I have to pick out the helicopter? I've figured out how to kill it in one pass rather than give him time to let his chaffs be effective, but before that? even when I'd hit f5/f6 and see that he was sitting still, I couldn't find him - I even heard him a few times as I flew really close to him.

 

I was watching a video of a guy playing the p-51d module and he'd be like "Oh there he is!" and I wouldn't be able to see the plane he was tracking until he gained altitude and had a clear sky as a backdrop and even then I'd struggle to see what he was seeing.

 

The reading I've been doing has me so confused.. I've never used the HDMI port on my laptop or my desktop.. It has a displayport.. will I be able to get a 60hz refresh rate out of a 60hz 1080p 40" display using display port or hdmi? or a displayport to hdmi adapter? I just want to be able to utilize visibility as a method of target aquisition, especially since I like flying prop planes as well. The bigger screen will be strictly for flying. I'd rather not have that much surface area to look at in an FPS or RTS game. ;)

Edited February 9, 2016 by Headwarp
Added info

[313_Nevo]

I just checked some other thread and if you are looking into users signatures you can find someone who is using already something similar for simming.

 

E.g. I found that cichlidfan has this

Samsung 40H6350 TV

(I was able to find it only on russian web sites, so russian model or something)

 

cichlidfan could you pls shed a light on how do you run and enjoy DCS on this TV? thx

[Enduro14]

dont listen to the naysayers. the bigger the better i have done all configs minus a projector. 3 screen great if thats what your in to. In my experience i would never go smaller than 55 inch now that i both have a 1080p for 3d and when 3d doesnt work a 55 inch 4k. If your a 2d guy 55 inch or greater in a pit config at 4k is amazing. No pc monitor will ever give you the perspective nor the sense of actually being in the pic 1/1 size like a large tv.

Ill be fully to VR once its out next month as i have a dk2 and vr is by far the best you can do and again dont listen to naysayers who say resolution this or that cant see anything. This is untrue.

Anyways back to screens i highly recommend a 55 inch or bigger i have a pit as listed in my sig and its great. Also since 3d is working again with Edge for me im using the 1080p in 3d for dcs and its a close second to vr. whenever i go back to 2d its depressing and also boring and thats on a 55 inch 4k.

It depends on user i suppose also with tv's you got to pay to get a good one if you get a old cheapo your response time will be horrible. So if you go that route research your tv's for response time and 4k realm make sure it does hdmi 2.0 at 444 its a beautiful pic. Me personally i can never go back to a small pc monitor trust me when i say when you see your pit on screen as almost the real size it really is its something to behold. Then ad 3d to that and its amazing.

Seeing tgts is better on a large screen for me, its uber easy on the 4k such a clean and perfect picture you see details you never thought where their and 4k works better and the benefits are more pronounced on a large screen aka 55 inch or bigger. 3d enhances it further as depth perception and having true 3d objects your brain and mk1 eyeballs get to the 17% rule much quicker compared to 2d. 3d is a must for me nothing replaces the depth and feelling you get with it ill take the resolution hit anyday to have it.

 

sorry for long post ive used many configs and will always have a large screen when not using VR. Everybody is different and has different standards.

[Headwarp]

dont listen to the naysayers. the bigger the better i have done all configs minus a projector. 3 screen great if thats what your in to. In my experience i would never go smaller than 55 inch now that i both have a 1080p for 3d and when 3d doesnt work a 55 inch 4k. If your a 2d guy 55 inch or greater in a pit config at 4k is amazing. No pc monitor will ever give you the perspective nor the sense of actually being in the pic 1/1 size like a large tv.

Ill be fully to VR once its out next month as i have a dk2 and vr is by far the best you can do and again dont listen to naysayers who say resolution this or that cant see anything. This is untrue.

Anyways back to screens i highly recommend a 55 inch or bigger i have a pit as listed in my sig and its great. Also since 3d is working again with Edge for me im using the 1080p in 3d for dcs and its a close second to vr. whenever i go back to 2d its depressing and also boring and thats on a 55 inch 4k.

It depends on user i suppose also with tv's you got to pay to get a good one if you get a old cheapo your response time will be horrible. So if you go that route research your tv's for response time and 4k realm make sure it does hdmi 2.0 at 444 its a beautiful pic. Me personally i can never go back to a small pc monitor trust me when i say when you see your pit on screen as almost the real size it really is its something to behold. Then ad 3d to that and its amazing.

Seeing tgts is better on a large screen for me, its uber easy on the 4k such a clean and perfect picture you see details you never thought where their and 4k works better and the benefits are more pronounced on a large screen aka 55 inch or bigger. 3d enhances it further as depth perception and having true 3d objects your brain and mk1 eyeballs get to the 17% rule much quicker compared to 2d. 3d is a must for me nothing replaces the depth and feelling you get with it ill take the resolution hit anyday to have it.

 

sorry for long post ive used many configs and will always have a large screen when not using VR. Everybody is different and has different standards.

 

 

I just don't have the funds to throw into a 55" 4k TV or a 980 to support those resolutions.

 

I expect the gtx 680 to last me another year or two at the very least.

 

That being said - your 1080p hdtv I'm assuming is 120hz since it's capable of 3d? Are you utilizing it's main hdmi port to do so? A display port? Will I be able to tell what I'm looking at through the TGP in the a-10 or when I'm getting close to something in the air? sorry to be so inquisitive.. just trying t figure out if I want to deal with labels on until I find a way to rake up enough cash to invest in a newer video card/tv. But I'm thinking I can get away with a larger screen for a few hundred bucks and enjoy my simming experience much more.

 

 

I know to look for the lowest response and lag input times as possible within my budget but as far as connections and ensuring the TV will output at high enough refresh rates however I hook it up to get 1080p resolution I'm clueless.

Edited February 10, 2016 by Headwarp

[Enduro14]

I just don't have the funds to throw into a 55" 4k TV or a 980 to support those resolutions.

 

I expect the gtx 680 to last me another year or two at the very least.

 

That being said - your 1080p hdtv I'm assuming is 120hz since it's capable of 3d? Are you utilizing it's main hdmi port to do so? A display port? Will I be able to tell what I'm looking at through the TGP in the a-10 or when I'm getting close to something in the air? sorry to be so inquisitive.. just trying t figure out if I want to deal with labels on until I find a way to rake up enough cash to invest in a newer video card/tv. But I'm thinking I can get away with a larger screen for a few hundred bucks and enjoy my simming experience much more.

 

 

I know to look for the lowest response and lag input times as possible within my budget but as far as connections and ensuring the TV will output at high enough refresh rates however I hook it up to get 1080p resolution I'm clueless.

 

my tv for 3d is sony 802A and i use a edid hack to run it in 3dvision. Which is nice using my oakley 3d glasses nice and comfy.

 

Yes all hdmi

 

http://afriendlyfox.com/2013/02/04/massively-improved-nvidia-3d-vision-on-passive-3dtvs-edid-override/

[Brewnix]

Yeahh I'm actually rethinking the bravia it's vga port does not sound like it's going to be useful.

 

 

*edit* -In regards to searching these forums, that's whats making me determined to find a solution. That lead to me making this post.

 

After doing some research, and ultimately why I didn't buy a 1080p TV for dirt cheap years ago.. was the "PC" input thing. VGA ports are apparently not the way to go if wanting to utilize a TV. And per Nevo's suggestion prior the quoted post - I actually am rethinking this idea AFTER having searched these forums. That's what lead to me wanting to go bigger in the first place. Strictly for flight simming. I'm very content with my 27" @ 1080p for FPS gaming. Prior to that I was using an NEC 20.1" @1680x1050 and while it still is a great monitor (I have it sitting next to my 27" for when I used to run 2 clients in Eve Online at the same time). When I first got the 27" I was like "Wow I can actually see people in *Insert FPS game here*" and became the guy people go after because he just killed your whole team.

 

I was never going for surround or anything.. the gtx 680 4gb handles what's been thrown at it, albeit some games out there these days I might still choose to run without AA and set shadows to low, I feel comfortable to skip the 900 series. I'm just fine sticking with TrackIR for flying rather than jumping on the VR bandwagon. A game like Elite: Dangerous I tend to not have issues because of it's radar system, albeit it can be hard finding smoke trails and little specs moving beyond 6-7KM.. and there are also lasers being shot by the things I intend to destroy in that game often times.

 

But DCS? RoF? The only indication I have of someone being near me (Minus radar in DCS which I'm still learning) is a visual spotting of them. Spare me the "Labels aren't cheating". I'm using them when applicable now..but in the su-25t/su-27 training mission where I have to pick out the helicopter? I've figured out how to kill it in one pass rather than give him time to let his chaffs be effective, but before that? even when I'd hit f5/f6 and see that he was sitting still, I couldn't find him - I even heard him a few times as I flew really close to him.

 

I was watching a video of a guy playing the p-51d module and he'd be like "Oh there he is!" and I wouldn't be able to see the plane he was tracking until he gained altitude and had a clear sky as a backdrop and even then I'd struggle to see what he was seeing.

 

The reading I've been doing has me so confused.. I've never used the HDMI port on my laptop or my desktop.. It has a displayport.. will I be able to get a 60hz refresh rate out of a 60hz 1080p 40" display using display port or hdmi? or a displayport to hdmi adapter? I just want to be able to utilize visibility as a method of target aquisition, especially since I like flying prop planes as well. The bigger screen will be strictly for flying. I'd rather not have that much surface area to look at in an FPS or RTS game. ;)

 

 

Hi, SO i run 3 40inch westing house LCD Tv's via the vga port. It max res if i could make it go that high for vga ports is 1920x1200. currently I am runing at 1920x1080. over a GTX970. There is nothing wrong with the VGA port it works better then the standard HDMI 1.4 port. I have tried multiple times to use HDMI but i have the eyecandy syndrome. And the colors are off and the desktop looks horrible. The Icons are jaggy. So its the cheap option until the make cheap HDMI 2.0 tv's.... The 40in is pretty good size for gaming. my 2 cents thanks

Edited February 10, 2016 by Brewnix

[Headwarp]

Hi, SO i run 3 40inch westing house LCD Tv's via the vga port. It max res if i could make it go that high for vga ports is 1920x1200. currently I am runing at 1920x1080. over a GTX970. There is nothing wrong with the VGA port it works better then the standard HDMI 1.4 port. I have tried multiple times to use HDMI but i have the eyecandy syndrome. And the colors are off and the desktop looks horrible. The Icons are jaggy. So its the cheap option until the make cheap HDMI 2.0 tv's.... The 40in is pretty good size for gaming. my 2 cents thanks

 

But you're actually getting 1920x1080 out of the vga port on that Westinghouse? That's worth looking into.

[SinusoidDelta]

I'm quite happy with my curved 34" Samsung ultrawide. Yes, the total area is equivalent to a 40" TV but I had a 40" Westinghouse HDTV previously and I'd never go back. 3440x1440 via DisplayPort is fantastic. IIRC the ideal head position for the Samsung is ~30cm. Consider the display is curved in three dimensions making any point on the monitor is equidistant from your eyes. Couple this with head tracking and it adds a whole new level of immersion IMHO. Flat displays actually feel wrong now, which has made life at the office quite difficult :)

[Fish]

........the bigger the better ........ No pc monitor will ever give you the perspective nor the sense of actually being in the pic 1/1 size like a large tv.

 

Hmm......

Apart from the response time and refresh rate, dynamic contrast etc, there is a very important factor to consider, which ‘moderates’ the phrase ‘bigger is better’, and that’s retina distance, lets call it RDi. (I for inches) It’s the distance from a monitor at which you can just see (or not see) the pixels on a device. It’s the optimum distance for getting the maximum information for the display. As you move away, the laws of physics limit what you see. As you move close inside this, you don’t get any extra information, only pixel visibility.

Now lets compare a couple of monitors,

 

55” UHD, RDi = 43

27” UHD, RDi = 21

 

If you sat in a pitch black room and viewed these monitors at their respective retina distances the experience (all other things being equal, and assuming 20 20 vision), would be the same. Each would take up the same arc of your vision. You can do the math here. In reality other factors impact our perception of immersion, high dynamic contrast generally on TV’s, Sitting at a desk, as distinct from leaning back on a couch etc. And there might be a benefit in the display being at higher focal distance (close to your long vision).

 

Challenge then for TV or large monitor, is to have it far enough away, on a desk which is maybe only 28”.

 

I created the chart below to help clarify and make comparisons between different viewing options. If you want a copy of the file please PM me.

 

For example, if your viewing distance was around 30”, then you would be better off buying a 27” 1440 over a UHD, as there would be little or no difference to the viewing experience, but you would get a significant FPS benefit.

 

Disclaimer: The RDi is based on an articles I read, and this number can be different for different people, but its not difficult to calculate an approximate value for yourself.

 

[wormeaten]

You completly miss the point I want to say. Forget about AMD/Nvidia stuff here. Personally I could be called Nvidia fan but to be honest last 8 years I'm using AMD GPU simply from my experience Nvidia not justified bigger price so if you want to pay twice much for similar performance your choice.

 

OK lets stay with your 680 as base no new graphic card. Good card and you will be able to use it with 34" ultra wide 1080 height off screen.

 

Comparing it with TV vide is same as 40"TV but the high is smaller. It is like when you wach movie 2.35:1 without this black parts. That is size in inches.

 

Do the test go look your monitor close as you can and in one point you will see grid like screendoor effect in oculus. To notice it you will need on monitor to get close 3 to 5" on TV it is noticeably even on 30" and you don't want this. So 34" monitor even on 1080 is better solution than TV and could be paired with your existing monitor for work and you will be able to play even FPS on it and have benefit from it.

 

For Curved 1440 you will need 970 minimum or reducing some details on 680 it is on edge here. 1440 is better but increase problem with spotting targets. That is up to you to decide what is your priority. Like I say before there is no perfect solution so it is up to you where, how and how much you will compromise.

[Brewnix]

But you're actually getting 1920x1080 out of the vga port on that Westinghouse? That's worth looking into.

 

Yes iam technically it's 5760x1080 got 3 of them. Side note I did have another 40 inch that allowed me thru the custom res section of nvidia control panel to run 2560 x1440 . And then looking at my card specs nvidia states that the VGA port has a max res of 2048x1536.my card is a GTX970

[LC34]

What do you guys think of this monitor? Id assume my 970 should run it fine, still on the fence about widescreen though.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-000D-003Z3

 

Seems like a great price for it as well being 45% off at the moment. Maybe would be ok for the OPs system as well?

[Headwarp]

Alright.. soooo.. funny thing. I didn't know nvidia surround could be experienced with two different sized monitors. I was just playing around w/ nvidia control panel, and noticed the option to enable surround was available. I have an asus 27" 1920x1080 monitor, and an NEC 20.1" 1680x1050.

 

The result was a 3360x1050 resolution. And I'm actually kind of interested in one of those curved widescreen monitors, like the one lC34 linked, and I'm about to start researching them.

 

I've gone back to single monitor flying for now, but my experience was - My cockpit felt huge and realistic on surround, everything was bigger..what I could see on the hud was easier to read, and bigger in general. I could read the HUD fully zoomed out (I have it assigned to an axis). I didn't feel any difference in performance, but unfortunately wiih 2 monitors it resulted in a line in the middle of my screen and cut out vital HUD info in the su-27. If not for that I'd be flying that way right now. That being said.. I have options. Maybe throw another 20.1" 1680x1050, or 2 more 1920x1080, or look into the 34" curved widescreen (hopefully just as awesome an experience)

 

The only con is - no increase in vertical view. But.. with trackIR, everything looked large enough to make me want to upgrade at this point. I'll stick with the 6804gb for now, and hopefully be able to survive the next generation or two of nvidia cards.

[Thick8]

I use 3 40" 1080p TV's at 60Hz. Great for DCS, Skyrim, Sniper Elite 3, and all my other games as well.

[313_Nevo]

Headwarp, you say 2 monitors in 3360x1050?

 

That means you downscaled your primary 27" monitor from 1920x1080 to 1680x1050.. maybe thats the reason you see everything bigger with this config.. ?