Rockets radius improvement mod

[Einherjer]

Yeah that's what I also would expect

[RabidRider]

MK5, M151, are the two primary ones i can think of that are used on the A10c regularly.

 

Yes, please do these as well

[Enduro14]

I can confirm the mirage uses currently the MK5 and with this mod it makes armor penetration much better. I can take out a t55 tank from 1 to 2 rocket hits on a rear aspect attack. Front i have yet to get to the terminal phase yet.

In the same token i can take out a 5 ton truck with one very very close rocket impact so i find this very good.

[Galwran]

This looks very nice, thanks!:thumbup:

 

However, at least area damage should have propability of efficiency. So that a truck COULD be destroyed 50 meters away from an explosion, but that would not happen always. Kinda like this what I wrote on an another thread.

 

I say that there are about six states that should exist for a vehicle:

 

1)Unit is alive

2)Unit is alive, but unable to move

3)Unit is alive, but unable to fire

4)Unit is still alive, but damaged and will be destroyed after a random time (minutes, not seconds)

5)Unit is not alive, but not visually damaged.

6)Unit is destroyed

 

Currently the sim models only two states; alive or destroyed. But all of these could be scripted.

 

The main point is that there should variety on the effects of weapons. As you can see, states 2 to 6 can be caused by a single hit from a sufficiently efficient weapon. But in states 2 to 5 you might have to attack a second time, because the unit is not destroyed and you are uncertain.

 

Modeling fragments and blast damage can be simplified with probabilities very easily. Here is the real world example: http://fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/docs...t/dam_crit.htm

 

To put in DCS terms: Lets say a MK84 hits near a BMP. MK84 makes at maximum 2000 points of damage, the BMP has 1000 hitpoints.

 

So we might end up something like this:

5m: 90% chance of being destroyed, 95% chance of being unable to fire, 95% chance of being unable to move

10m:70% chance of being destroyed, 80% chance of being unable to fire, 80% chance of being unable to move

15m:50% chance of being destroyed, 60% chance of being unable to fire, 60% chance of being unable to move

20m:30% chance of being destroyed, 50% chance of being unable to fire, 50% chance of being unable to move

25m:15% chance of being destroyed, 40% chance of being unable to fire, 40% chance of being unable to move.

 

All of these could also be scripted with the probabilities and calculating the distance from the explosion. (unit in the zone of explosion)

[Looney]

We just need to make sure the server doesn't shit itself when multiple aircraft decide that a combined rocket run is a good idea....

[Galwran]

My suggestion could be even more simplified; just add randomization of the damage.

 

So a bomb would not always make 300 damage, but something between 200 and 350.

[ESAc_matador]

Hello everyone.

 

Just one question. How this affect the MP game? I mean, i tryied and I can get into servers but, does it work?. Is the server who has to install the file? Or all the clients too?

[Einherjer]

Yes the server needs to run this mod, it will then affect all clients

[Enduro14]

Oh that's cool so only the mission hoster needs to run it? Thought everybody did?

[Einherjer]

That's correct

[dimitriov]

Hi guys, I'm am so compiling the new version, it will be available to download on the first page in the next minutes following this message.

 

To answer your questions :

 

The host needs it, that's all.

 

Rockets Hydra 70 just have two types of Warheads in the .lua, even if there are more version ingame, they are already modified, no worries.

 

This new version is the last test one I posted few pages before.

 

About the randomization of the destruction area : That's a no. Simply because the warheads.lua calls in functions (coefficients) which are defined in another unfound .lua, or even perhaps in the "hidden" code of the simulator. So I cannot do it ;)

 

Anyway, the new version will be up (underlined in red) on the first page ;)

 

Nicolas

[bigbear]

Thank you so much for spending the time on this, Nicolas. You put together a vitally important mod, in my opinion. It is crazy that so much realism is in the game but isn't in something as basic as weapon effectiveness.

[Gliptal]

Agreed, this mod has made low intensity fights a lot more enjoyable.

[Gliptal]

Latest update crashes the game when this mod is active.

[cro_mig_21]

Latest update crashes the game when this mod is active.

+1

[Yuya6104]

+1

 

+2

[ESAc_matador]

confirmed.

 

I became crazy looking for the problem!!

[Einherjer]

It's a new rocket type that came with the update. Copy the entry for the smerch rocket and paste it in the moddet lua will fix it

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Can we get an updated mod polack from the OP for this then or if someone is willing to post it here.

 

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[Erpe]

judging by a quick look the latest release it also seems the changes to bomb explosives from my mod is missing.

[ESAc_matador]

It's a new rocket type that came with the update. Copy the entry for the smerch rocket and paste it in the moddet lua will fix it

 

Could you post the new warheads.lua file??? i am not able to fix it by my own!!;)

[Einherjer]

Will post a new version tomorrow :)

[Einherjer]

Here is my updated one ... maybe that the bombs are even stronger then in the regual version

warheads.lua

[dimitriov]

Ow, just saw the issue, Einherjer you sure this version works ?

 

 

So I will put it on the first page ?

 

Edit : I will make a new release in the next days.

Edited March 18, 2016 by dimitriov

[Gliptal]

Here is my updated one ... maybe that the bombs are even stronger then in the regual version

Why would they be stronger?