Question for the X55 Saitek owners

[Lenux]

Please, do me a small favor, guys, if you have 2-3 minutes

Just open the HUD settings, go to ROTARY 2 / ROTARY 1 and do very very small moves

The round pointer is starting to shake / tremble, on some points.

Is this a software bug ??

I wanted to use Rotary 2 or Rotary 1, for zooming in slow \ zooming out slow, but it's very annoying

If i use the aluminium button for zooming in slow \ zooming out slow but it seems to response very slow

In the attached printscreen you cant see that, but the pointer is trembling / shaking

 

Thank you in advance

Edited March 8, 2016 by Lenux

[Lenux]

Does anyone here have the Saitek X65F ?

[Dudikoff]

I have a used X65F, but I don't remember seeing such issues. I do remember seeing the rotaries unstable on the X52 Pro, so perhaps they've put lower quality rotaries on the X55?

 

The hats themselves seem to be of a much cheaper plastic than on the X65F and replacing three hats with simple buttons seems surprising; they can't cost that much and X65F is OOP anyway.

Edited March 9, 2016 by Dudikoff

[Bourrinopathe]

Parkinsonian-rotaries inside©

The X-55 rotaries use 8-bit resolution (256 values/positions). The "shaking" is probably due to the potentiometer oscillating between two values.

I can confirm it can be very annoying using them for the zoom view functions ;)

 

(the aluminium wheel is more like a mouse wheel - each step acts like pressing a button (like an encoder))

Edited March 9, 2016 by Bourrinopathe

[Lenux]

I was able to adjust the controls / settings for IL 2 BoS, i can use the aluminium wheel for zooming, it's working perfect.

But i can't make it work for DCS. When i try to add the mouse wheel, to the mouse section, nothing happent, its greyed out.

I can add some keyboard buttons, X55 stick or throttle, but nothing for the mouse under the DCS settings / controlls

What am I doing wrong ?? For the keyboard i have F11 and F12 for zoom in slow / zoom out slow.

Under IL 2 BoS, i deleted F11 and F12 and instead, i added the mouse wheel, but the settings menu works different under IL 2 BoS

So, the question is : if the aluminium wheel is working PERFECT for zooming, under BoS, shouldn't the same wheel work for DCS as well ???

Edited March 9, 2016 by Lenux

[Gladman]

I use the bottom throttle rotary for zoom on all the modules. There is a shake at center but a simple slight movement forward or aft fixes it. Not a big deal in my opinion.

[Lenux]

I find it annoying, i can use it now the aluminium wheel for zooming, but its not as smooth as the rotary 1 and rotary 2

[Lenux]

Parkinsonian-rotaries inside©

The X-55 rotaries use 8-bit resolution (256 values/positions). The "shaking" is probably due to the potentiometer oscillating between two values.

I can confirm it can be very annoying using them for the zoom view functions ;)

 

(the aluminium wheel is more like a mouse wheel - each step acts like pressing a button (like an encoder))

I wish I could use the aluminum wheel with the smoothness of the rotary button

Under the DCS settings for the mouse, i cant use the view zoom option, only the" zoom in " or something like this

I'm not at home right now but i will attach later a printscreen

I don't know if the aluminum button can work as smooth as the rotary ones, so I have no idea if it's helping me with the DCS settings...

[giei]

Please, do me a small favor, guys, if you have 2-3 minutes

Just open the HUD settings, go to ROTARY 2 / ROTARY 1 and do very very small moves

The round pointer is starting to shake / tremble, on some points.

Is this a software bug ??

I wanted to use Rotary 2 or Rotary 1, for zooming in slow \ zooming out slow, but it's very annoying

If i use the aluminium button for zooming in slow \ zooming out slow but it seems to response very slow

In the attached printscreen you cant see that, but the pointer is trembling / shaking

 

Thank you in advance

 

Same problem!

 

Watch this https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=8E8B6039B58F2FB6!267034&authkey=!AIOfZgff6U8JySI&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

 

We fly probably too much for Saitek engineers :megalol:

 

I fixed to G potentiometer soldering again the purple cable but I see a lot of future cables braking problems waiting me behind the corner.

[Lenux]

I wonder if all the X55 have the same rotary buttons shaking issue ( because of the cables )

As i said, i can send it back, i still have 2 days. I would like to replace the X55, maybe i have more luck with another one.

[Bourrinopathe]

I don't know if the aluminum button can work as smooth as the rotary ones, so I have no idea if it's helping me with the DCS settings...

 

The aluminium "wheel" is not an axis and can't be used as a "(Saitek-)smooth" rotary :music_whistling:

It's a rotary encoder, each step CW sends a button press input and each step CCW sends another button press (buttons 30 and 31 iirc).

 

I find it rather comfortable to select display/sensors ranges (HDD/HUD in the Su-27).

 

Also: thanks for the picture giei. I probably have a similar issue with my X-55: some buttons become unresponsive when my throttle handle is in the middle position.

[Devrim]

For zooming, I always use mouse-stick (for years). Up: Zoom in, down: zoom out. Left/right: Zoom reset.

 

Maybe this way will not faster you expected, but it works flawless.

[Lenux]

Do I have a chance to get ( replace ) a better one, without the rotary issues ?

Are all the same ?

[pepin1234]

Do I have a chance to get ( replace ) a better one, without the rotary issues ?

Are all the same ?

 

Probably with the new X-56. The X-55 is out of stock by Saytek

[KLR Rico]

I have an X52, but have the same problem with poor pots. I found its best to just assign them to key presses using bands.

 

For example:

 

0-33% - some key

34-65% - neutral

66-100% - another key

[Lenux]

Probably with the new X-56. The X-55 is out of stock by Saytek

 

I already have the X55.

Just wanted to know if they are all the same, with the rotary issues.

[Lenux]

So, is it worth to send it back for replacement ??

[Bourrinopathe]

It's hard to tell if it would seem interesting to replace your X55 because if there are several reports about similar issues, some users are apparently satisfied with their unit.

 

From what I've read and asked (fellow users here and there) the quality and reliability is inconsistent.

For example, my metallic encoder on the throttle (the one on the handle) does not rotate freely all the way. It rubs significantly for a part of the 360° rotation - not reliable at all in my book (since day one).

I have a friend with a button on the throttle that stopped working a few days after he took his X55 out of the box. I don't have that problem.

 

Depending and what you can afford and what you expect for your flight sim controls, I'd suggest buying a reliable throttle and avoid Saitek/MadCatz at all cost.

[Lenux]

I got the money back, for X55.

Now the question is : what else should i buy ? I guess, X56 is the same poor quality, only with different colors, so is not worth, imo

I would purchase Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, but i have no rudder pedals, and maybe it would be very difficult to use it for WW2 aircrafts, without Z axis / rudder pedals.

It's really impossible to fly or take off ( WW2 planes ) without pedals / no Z axis ?

What do you think,would be better ?

Thrustmaster H.O.T.A.S. with pedals or X56 Rhino with joystick Z axis ?

Some people says, the joystick option "Z axis" is far behind dedicated ruder pedals

Edited April 28, 2016 by Lenux

[ex81]

How did you do to get your money back ?

Normally they send you a replace part.

[Lenux]

The sent me an e-mail today ...

[ex81]

Lucky you !

Ich habe vor vier Wochen einen FLY 5 zurückgeschickt. Nach zahllosen emails.

Und die haben mir wirklich einen neuen zurück geschickt. Aber ohne Verpackung ! Im Plastikbeutel mit Luftpolsterfolie.

Inzwischen habe ich aber auch einen X-55.

Saitek, MadCatz: immer wieder gut für Überraschungen.

 

About four weeks ago I returned a FLY 5 to the german support center.

And they really did send me a new stick without any package material. Simply in a plastick bag. Boy oh boy, Saitek / MadCatz is always good for a surprise.

[Lenux]

I found this, on some website

This guy modified / removed / the springs

It looks good, i think there is no more squeakings

Edited May 16, 2016 by Lenux

[rogonaut]

I got the money back, for X55.

Now the question is : what else should i buy ? I guess, X56 is the same poor quality, only with different colors, so is not worth, imo

I would purchase Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, but i have no rudder pedals, and maybe it would be very difficult to use it for WW2 aircrafts, without Z axis / rudder pedals.

It's really impossible to fly or take off ( WW2 planes ) without pedals / no Z axis ?

What do you think,would be better ?

Thrustmaster H.O.T.A.S. with pedals or X56 Rhino with joystick Z axis ?

Some people says, the joystick option "Z axis" is far behind dedicated ruder pedals

 

did the same wasnt happy add all with the x55 - sent it back and paid a hundred more and got the warthog. im using ch pedals an im very happy with the setup hopefully for a long time

 

i wont buy another product from saitek again, it was just so shit:D

Edited May 16, 2016 by rogonaut

[Lenux]

I would like to buy the TM Warthog HOTAS, also, but i'm affraid i can't get used with the pedals.