OT: JSF Abilities??

[Cobra360]

And last but not least, to realise it needs to have the whole pit layout re-designed. No HUD and that start trek console is a bit overkill and wont be very usefull when you have to touch a particular area of the screen under heavy G's, thats IF the pilot can make anything on that messy screen at all, not to mention what that 6 pound helmet will feel like at 8 G's.

 

Under heavy sustained Gs, your not likely to be using a touch screen or pressing push buttons around a standard MFD for that matter, the pilots hands will be in HOTAS mode with their head on a swivel.

 

Besides, the JSF G-siut is based on the Eurofighter G-suit. When wearing this as in its current form, pilots can sustain 9G with very little effort in keeping blood in the brain and breathing, moving your arms and head will still be tiring though.

 

http://www.codeonemagazine.com/archives/2006/articles/apr_06/front-office/index.html

 

I just checked the above site today for the first time in about a year and found this article on the F-35 cockpit interface.

[tflash]

Same category as the F-22 doesn't mean equal to the F-22. The Raptor is gonna be getting all the best tech the U.S. aviation industry has to offer. The JSF is nothing more than a B+/A- fighter designed from the outset to complement the F-22.

 

F-22 = Batman. F-35 = Robin. Sure, they're both stealthy, but Batman's the master.

 

I'm not so sure. Once the F-16 was produced in thousands, the F-15 community has had hard times getting funding. Over time, the cost savings really count. The israeli's, who normally do not like second-rate material, decided not to buy additional F-15i's but bought F-16i's instead.

 

The same will hold for the F-22. Already now, the cockpit of the F-35 will be more modern than the F-22 one (just like Lockon's F-15C cockpit is ridiculously obsolete compared to a Viper one).

 

You end up with a way to expensive airframe to produce and newer, more miniaturized avionics hitting the street at lower prices. When all the money is gone, the "cheaper" aircraft will be the winner, just like the F-16 was: the best buy ever. If the F-35 comes about, it might be more bang for the buck than the F-22.

[51GRIZZLY]

I have another pic of the JSF here :P

and i agree with people calling them ugly :D

[Shaman]

I have another pic of the JSF here :P

and i agree with people calling them ugly :D

Lol, I love the image. You're crazy man.

[Force_Feedback]

I have another pic of the JSF here :P

and i agree with people calling them ugly :D

 

That's our airforce :P A funny story on the sidenote, I was looking for this coffee shop (here they sell weed in those), and couldn't find it as I have never been there before, needless to say I saw a military truck coming out of a street, and knew immediately where to go to. And indeed, there was a coffee shop in that small street :P

So that cartoon might not be that far off from reality.

[pho3nix]

GG, the bulges under the wing of the f-22 are the control surface actuators, the wing is to thin to house them fully.

 

Due to my scientific involvement in the JSF i have seen videos documenting a full interdiction mission in the f-35 simulator. with regard to the cockpit, it is very well desinged and allows the pilot to mainley be a sensors manager while most of the flight is flown on autopilot, only takeoff/landin and over the target area are flown manualy.

 

interms of having to manipulate the cockpit controls during high G loadings, the pilot will only be using hotas and distorted voice recognistion for manipulating the systems (you dont realy need to change the focus of your sar map while evading an incoming threat).

 

with respect to steath, any capability that allows you to detect and be within weapons range of the enemy is enough stealth for me so if it can detect you at 20nm, so be it. but also as someone said, on the first days of the campaine, focus is on EW and air defences, after these systems have been down graded, external weapns stores become more common, ref 'C4'.

[GGTharos]

Aha, thanks for the correction man :D

[Force_Feedback]

The 360* articulated vision and the helmet itself are the things I'm looking forward to read about, man, that is soo damn Star Trek, no, Stealth, no, wait, errm, Star Trek DS9, where the Vorta control Jem'Hadar ships with this single eye display. That, but even cooler, wow. I hate the performance of that thing, but like the autoeject, ejection seat, MDC lining on the canopy, and it's articulated visual system, which allows to make the whole plane 'transparent'.

 

Too bad there is no such tech that would make some other things transparent ,such as women's clothes.

[britgliderpilot]

Same category as the F-22 doesn't mean equal to the F-22. The Raptor is gonna be getting all the best tech the U.S. aviation industry has to offer. The JSF is nothing more than a B+/A- fighter designed from the outset to complement the F-22.

 

F-22 = Batman. F-35 = Robin. Sure, they're both stealthy, but Batman's the master.

 

Designed to complement it, yes . . . . but remember that the JSF is a younger aeroplane than the F-22.

 

The Raptor was first conceived in 1981. It was selected for production as the ATF in 1991.

 

The Lightning II was much more fluid in it's creation - although the seeds were sown in the mid-to-late eighties, the program kept shifting and goals kept changing. . . . JSF was selected ten years later than ATF.

 

AFAIK they don't change the spec massively between selection and service introduction (see the age of the Raptor's computers for an example) - and although upgrades can be planned, if both aircraft enter service with the capabilities they had at selection then JSF's technology will be ten years ahead of Raptor's.

 

 

We of all people should know how fast technology moves - if you were simming in 1991, remember back and see how the tech's moved on ;)

 

The Raptor is the cream, but purely by virtue of being ten years newer, the JSF has a number of advantages - as a result it's in the slightly bizarre position that some of the developments made for it are going to feed back to upgrades for it's big brother. Cool, no?

[Pilotasso]

I have recently aquired a new Aviation book wich describes all 4rth Gen fighters in more detail than usual.

 

"Superfighters" by Mel williams, AIRtime editor.

 

I may add something relevant later.

[pho3nix]

I got that book too, its not to bad, doesnt go into much depth on the current systems but is a very good read for the X-35 as opposed to the F-35