Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 So I recently upgraded from a 770 to a 980 and I am running the new card with no overclock. I have attachment my settings and with these conservative settings I am generally getting 45-50FPS at low altitude with microstuters and panning the view with trackir is jerky with ghosting. So other 980 owners how does my performance compare to yours? Jacks System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Hadwell Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 So I recently upgraded from a 770 to a 980 and I am running the new card with no overclock. I have attachment my settings and with these conservative settings I am generally getting 45-50FPS at low altitude with microstuters and panning the view with trackir is jerky with ghosting. So other 980 owners how does my performance compare to yours? Jacks Have you tried turning flat terrain shadows on? turn trees down some too... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 I have tried flat shadows on and it makes little difference. I also use the the no tree shadow mod. System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Bobby-M. Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 So I recently upgraded from a 770 to a 980 and I am running the new card with no overclock. I have attachment my settings and with these conservative settings I am generally getting 45-50FPS at low altitude with microstuters and panning the view with trackir is jerky with ghosting. So other 980 owners how does my performance compare to yours? Jacks Hello Well i´m no expert, but your system specs look allright to me, you got a fast enough system. your Grafic card should be faster than my ... i got the AMD RX 480 and i have higer settings with more average frames... hmmm. so what i would do ist too put the anisotropic filterin down to 8x and the cockpit display to 512 also i would go down with the grass to about 500 put vsync of and give it a try but to be honest i don´t get it i should run smooth
golani79 Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 It should run pretty smooth with your card - I´ve got a 970 and almost every setting on high and I have no problems with microstutters or jerky movement with TrackIR I have the settings for Clutter/Grass, Trees Visibility and Preload Radius lower though. Not sure how much of a difference the CPU is making (got a 6770k) >> DCS liveries by golani79 <<
Nooch Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Set resolution of cockpit displays to 512. It will help the framerate quite a bit. Also Flat Terrain shadows should be ON. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 But with a 980 and a fast CPU should I have to make these comprimises? Surely my system should be capable of running DCS at high settings? System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Hadwell Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 But with a 980 and a fast CPU should I have to make these comprimises? Surely my system should be capable of running DCS at high settings? Well... there are two ways to look at it... 1. It's awesome when developers future proof games, put settings in games that no computer can currently run yet, that way the game still has top of the line graphics going forwards... 2. It sucks when games aren't optimized... DCS is some of each... though i would say more of latter... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
NeilWillis Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 It is more a case of waiting for the 2 versions of DCS World to merge, so we're all using the same version of EDGE than a lack of willingness to optimise frame rates. Give ED a time to get things like that resolved, and you may see some welcome advances in performance come along in the not too distant future. Seriously, do you expect current cards to cope with the most demanding settings in a game that has not long been updated, and will naturally want to exploit fully all the power currently available - and some! If they didn't future proof to some degree, we'd really have cause to complain!!! What would really suck would be a game that even mid-range processing power could cope with!
Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 Neil yes I do expect to be able to run a recently updated game with decent performer since I am only running at 1080p with moderate settings. It is not as though I am running 4K or VR and so a 4.5GHz processor and a 980 should be man enough (in fact they run at 100% in DCS). System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Wrecking Crew Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Hi, Jacks, I'm running a GTX 980 Ti with a i7-6700K @ 4 GHz, no overclocking. DCS is running great at 60 FPS, the adapter is set to 60 Hz, running a Samsung 48" 4K TV JS9000. I have a second 22" monitor connected to this card, at 1680x1050, for TS and other stuff. WC Visit the Hollo Pointe DCS World server -- an open server with a variety of COOP & H2H missions including Combined Arms. All released missions are available for free download, modification and public hosting, from my Wrecking Crew Projects site.
Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 WC, So with those settings you get a solid 60FPS? What does your FPS drop to over the large cities and forests? System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Enduro14 Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Ya bro in basically running it maxed out at 4K and am locked at 60 except for processor moments. That's with single 980 I need sli in 2.0 to achieve the same Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 I wonder why I cannot achieve the same performance? I am getting 45-60 at much lower settings in 1080 System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
JLX Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 I wonder why I cannot achieve the same performance? I am getting 45-60 at much lower settings in 1080 It sounds to me like you may have an issue outside DCS. Try temporarily disabling Anti Virus when you're playing and see if that helps. Any other programs running in the background? For example sometimes people forget to turn off torrents or there may be some other background services stealing CPU cycles. Have a look at process and CPU usage in the task manager and see if you notice anything. It may not be the answer but you never know. It's worth a look. Sent from my LG-V497 using Tapatalk 3570K w/ 16GB, 1070 w/ 8GB @ 1440p, VKB Gunfighter/MCG-Pro & T-Rudder Mk.IV, CH ProThrottle, TrackIR 5, HTC Vive, UniversRadio, VoiceAttack, TacView Pro, DCS Menu Nav F/A-18C, F-5E, F-86F, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, Ka-50, SA342, P-51D, Spitfire Mk.IX, Bf109, Fw190, FC3, CA, Persian Gulf, NTTR, Normandy, WW2 Assets
Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 I will check that out. However my CPU cores never go over 70%. System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Wrecking Crew Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Your settings screen looks to be from DCS v2? I'm still on v1.5. I was running SLI until last w/e when I pulled the second card out, because after an update the FPS went down and fluctuated from 47-54, don't know whether it was a graphics update or DCS that caused it, but I was done with having to reset the SLI profile after updates. The single card actually runs a bit better in clock freq and is in the mid 70°s instead of 80°s in SLI with the cards so close together. Yes, my frames are solid at 60 in DCS. I'll see what happens in the new version after v1.5 and 2.0 merge. No drops in FPS, I'm happy with it. Visit the Hollo Pointe DCS World server -- an open server with a variety of COOP & H2H missions including Combined Arms. All released missions are available for free download, modification and public hosting, from my Wrecking Crew Projects site.
FraserNZL Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Are you playing on the open conflict server by Chance?
Jacks Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 No I am not playing on open conflict server. My settings are from 1.5.4 open beta not 2.0. System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
Justin Case Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 I think the improved FPS in 2.0 is due to a less amount of objects rendered when flying over most of the map. I guess Caucasus in 2.5 won't be much different than in 1.5. http://www.masterarms.se A Swedish Combat Flight Simulator Community.
BitMaster Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 Your CPU usage, despite its only a four core, seems to be too high. I have a constant 22% load on my i7 when I play DCS, so that should double for a i5 aka 44-45%. Where do your 25% ( 1 core maxed out ) come from ?? Virus scanner maybe ?? Can you exclude your AV from being the culprit ?? The performance is not as it should be. I have some higher fps with same or better settings at 1440p. The lowest I drop usually in the Ka-50 ( and that is the worst in fps of all modules ) is like 55fps for some moments, usually it is 62-67fps with peaks in 80's range when there is not much render. I think your performance killer is outside DCS, but set shadows to FLAT ON, 512 cockpit res, and the trees to about middle. Hope this helps Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Jacks Posted July 5, 2016 Author Posted July 5, 2016 One weird thing I find is that view panning is jerky above 60 FP: if I turn VSync off. Is this normal? System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal!
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