SA342 Weapon mod

Hook47 · October 2, 2016

Hahaha I'll take the blame. Hellfires on the Gazelle not only look awesome but actually work! Pretty amazed! I am going to have fun playing around.

Now I think there is a way to move a store using cord pos on aircraft with some type of argument value. I will look around to see what I can find out.

The cannon switch doesn't work sadly, was worth a try!

EDIT- As far as moving stores around so they look correct- Couldn't some variation of this line be used?

,attach_point_position = {-0.007, 0.05, -1.55},

(different cords for each pylon of course!) I feel like that is the right track but no luck yet...

Edited October 2, 2016 by Hook47

Hawkeye60 · October 2, 2016

How about a couple of these?

{ CLSID = "{7B8DCEB4-820B-4015-9B48-1028A4195692}" },

$c:\users\admin\savedgames\dcs\screenshots\screen_161001_232308$

Hook47 · October 2, 2016

Haha- prepare to do a spin after firing one of those puppies!

I am trying to get the Hellfire's to were they look like they belong on the pylons, and if/when I figure out how to do it maybe we should post it up on the Mod forums- I think some pilots would like the extra firepower to have fun with. I've played around with the line I posted but doesn't seem to be working- I might head over to the how-to forums

Hawkeye60 · October 2, 2016

I am trying to get the Hellfire's to were they look like they belong on the pylons, and if/when I figure out how to do it maybe we should post it up on the Mod forums- I think some pilots would like the extra firepower to have fun with. I've played around with the line I posted but doesn't seem to be working- I might head over to the how-to forums

I agree.

Lets find out what works and what doesn't.

Then make a list of codes and weapons they represent.

This is sure to be great fun!

Some More to try!:D

{ CLSID = "M260_HYDRA" },
               { CLSID = "M260_HYDRA_WP" },
               
               { CLSID = "{3EA17AB0-A805-4D9E-8732-4CE00CB00F17}" },
                
               { CLSID = "B_8V20A_CM" },
               { CLSID = "B_8V20A_OFP2" },
               { CLSID = "B_8V20A_OM" },
               
               { CLSID = "M134_SIDE_R", connector = "GUNNER_R_PNTR"},
               { CLSID = "M60_SIDE_R", connector = "GUNNER_R_PNTR"},
               
               { CLSID = "M134_SIDE_L", connector = "GUNNER_L_PNTR"},
               { CLSID = "M60_SIDE_L", connector = "GUNNER_L_PNTR"},
               
               { CLSID = "{37DCC01E-9E02-432F-B61D-10C166CA2798}" },
               
               { CLSID = "{96A7F676-F956-404A-AD04-F33FB2C74884}" },
               { CLSID = "{96A7F676-F956-404A-AD04-F33FB2C74881}" },
               { CLSID = "{3C612111-C7AD-476E-8A8E-2485812F4E5C}" },
               { CLSID = "{37DCC01E-9E02-432F-B61D-10C166CA2798}" },
               { CLSID = "{6DADF342-D4BA-4D8A-B081-BA928C4AF86D}" },
               { CLSID = "{A6FD14D3-6D30-4C85-88A7-8D17BEE120E2}" },
               { CLSID = "{FBC29BFE-3D24-4C64-B81D-941239D12249}" },
               
               { CLSID = "{88D18A5E-99C8-4B04-B40B-1C02F2018B6E}" },
               { CLSID = "{3EA17AB0-A805-4D9E-8732-4CE00CB00F17}" },
               { CLSID = "{FD90A1DC-9147-49FA-BF56-CB83EF0BD32B}" },
               
               { CLSID = "{B99EE8A8-99BC-4a8d-89AC-A26831920DCE}" },

Hawkeye60 · October 2, 2016

BGM_71D Tow

R-73

These mount.

Need to try shooting!:D

Hawkeye60 · October 2, 2016

Gazelle Add On Weapon List

(Reserved for weapon list)

Format, (weapon code) (weapon) (working, issue if any) (non working, issue)

I will up date this list as necessary.

Please add your findings or pm me with the info and I will add it to the list.

Once complete we will post to the mods forum.

Thank you and Have Fun!

Rockets,

{ CLSID = "{FD90A1DC-9147-49FA-BF56-CB83EF0BD32B}" },

(LAU-61 19 2.75' MK151)

{ CLSID = "{637334E4-AB5A-47C0-83A6-51B7F1DF3CD5}" },

UB-32A-32 5-5KO

{ CLSID = "{3DFB7320-AB0E-11d7-9897-000476191836}" },

B-8M1 20 S-8TsM

{ CLSID = "{FC56DF80-9B09-44C5-8976-DCFAFF219062}" },

B-13L-5 S-13 OF

{ CLSID = "{6A4B9E69-64FE-439a-9163-3A87FB6A4D81}" },

B-8V20A-20 S-8KOM

{ CLSID = "XM158_MK1"},

XM158-7 2.75' MK1 Practice rockets

{ CLSID = "XM158_MK5"},

XM158-7 2.75' MK5 HE

{ CLSID = "XM158_M156"},

XM158-7 2.75' M156 WP

{ CLSID = "XM158_M274"},

XM158-7 2.75' M274 Practice smoke

{ CLSID = "XM158_M257"},

XM158-7 2.75' M257 Parachute Illumination

{ CLSID = "B_8V20A_CM" },

8V20A-20 S-8TsM

{ CLSID = "B_8V20A_OFP2" },

8V20A-20 S80FP2

{CLSID = "B_8V20A_OM" },

8V20A-20 S-80M

 { CLSID = "M260_HYDRA" },

M260-7 2.75' MK156

 { CLSID = "M260_HYDRA_WP" },

M260-7 2.75' MK156 WP

Missile's,

{ CLSID = "{6DADF342-D4BA-4D8A-B081-BA928C4AF86D}" },

Kh-2ml

{ CLSID = "{3EA17AB0-A805-4D9E-8732-4CE00CB00F17}" },

BGM-71D Tow-4

{ CLSID = "{88D18A5E-99C8-4B04-B40B-1C02F2018B6E}" },

AMG-114k-4

{ CLSID = "{B919B0F4-7C25-455E-9A02-CEA51DB895E3}" },

AM114 Shturm-V-2

{ CLSID = "{7B8DCEB4-820B-4015-9B48-1028A4195692}" },

AMG-119B Penguin

{ CLSID = "{A6FD14D3-6D30-4C85-88A7-8D17BEE120E2}" },

APU-6 Vikhr

Air to Air,

{ CLSID = "{FBC29BFE-3D24-4C64-B81D-941239D12249}" },

R-73

Bombs,

{ CLSID = "{96A7F676-F956-404A-AD04-F33FB2C74884}" },

KMGU-2-96 PTAB-2.5KG

 { CLSID = "{96A7F676-F956-404A-AD04-F33FB2C74881}" },

KMGU-2-96 AO-2.5 5RT

{ CLSID = "{37DCC01E-9E02-432F-B61D-10C166CA2798}" },

FAB-500 M62

{ CLSID = "{3C612111-C7AD-476E-8A8E-2485812F4E5C}" },

FAB-250

{ CLSID = "{0511E528-EA28-4caf-A212-00D1408DF10A}" },

SAB-500

Guns

{ CLSID = "M134_SIDE_R"},
               { CLSID = "M60_SIDE_R"},
               
               { CLSID = "M134_SIDE_L"},
               { CLSID = "M60_SIDE_L"},

More to try..... all show up on pylons

{ CLSID = "{444BA8AE-82A7-4345-842E-76154EFCCA46}"},

-- amg65d

{ CLSID = "{F16A4DE0-116C-4A71-97F0-2CF85B0313EC}"},

--amg65e

{ CLSID    = "{A4BCC903-06C8-47bb-9937-A30FEDB4E741}" },

--Smokewinder - red

{ CLSID    = "{A4BCC903-06C8-47bb-9937-A30FEDB4E742}" },

--Smokewinder - green

{ CLSID    = "{A4BCC903-06C8-47bb-9937-A30FEDB4E743}" },

--Smokewinder - blue

{ CLSID    = "{A4BCC903-06C8-47bb-9937-A30FEDB4E744}" },

--Smokewinder - white

{ CLSID    = "{A4BCC903-06C8-47bb-9937-A30FEDB4E745}" },

--Smokewinder - yellow

{ CLSID = "{BCE4E030-38E9-423E-98ED-24BE3DA87C32}"},

--mk82

{ CLSID = "{F3EFE0AB-E91A-42D8-9CA2-B63C91ED570A}"},

--LAU-10

{ CLSID = "{69DC8AE7-8F77-427B-B8AA-B19D3F478B66}"},

--AGM-65K

{ CLSID = "{B06DD79A-F21E-4EB9-BD9D-AB3844618C93}"},

--AGM-88C

{ CLSID = "{8B7CADF9-4954-46B3-8CFB-93F2F5B90B03}"},

--AGM-84A

{ CLSID = "{AF42E6DF-9A60-46D8-A9A0-1708B241AADB}"},

--AGM-84E

{ CLSID = "{769A15DF-6AFB-439F-9B24-5B7A45C59D16}"},

--AGM-86C

{ CLSID = "{9BCC2A2B-5708-4860-B1F1-053A18442067}"},

--AGM-154C

{ CLSID = "{B06DD79A-F21E-4EB9-BD9D-AB3844618C93}"},

---AGM-88C

Edited October 3, 2016 by Hawkeye60
List, added guns

Mt5_Roie · October 2, 2016

You've been busy again Hawkeye!

Great list. When I get a chance I'll see if I can test them all out...maybe even make a video.

(Reserved for weapon list)

Format, (weapon code) (weapon) (working, issue if any) (non working, issue)

I will up date this list as necessary.

Please add your findings or pm me with the info and I will add it to the list.

Once complete we will post to the mods forum.

Thank you and Have Fun!

Hook47 · October 2, 2016

I'll keep experimenting and report back to ya, Hawkeye

So far I've confirmed the Hellfire, BGM 71s, Vikhrs and Shturns all mount, fire and guide correctly. Some of them don't look right and clip through the model, but it seems any ATGM from a chopper will work on the Gazelle! Only thing is you have to wait until the last round has hit or cut the line to a new pilot to fire another one

For rocket pods- I'm finding in the M gazelle you can only fire one rocket at a time and then there is a delay until it hits. You also have no reliable way to aim. I did loa S-24 heavy rockets and they all fired well and made a big boom :)

Really excited the Gazelle is so versatile modding wise- I always have a lot of fun making discoveries and trying crazy loud outs- eventually I will try to find some believable mod load outs to push out in a mod like I have with my L-38ZA and M-2000 upgrade mods, as usually I try to push out weapon mods that are somewhat possible, but in the mean time it's a lot of fun to experiment!

You've been busy again Hawkeye!

Great list. When I get a chance I'll see if I can test them all out...maybe even make a video.

Definitely check out those Hellfires while your at it, Poly! It's been my favorite so far and it's super cool to have a gazelle with 8 of those bad boys hangin off the pylons! I massacred a convoy with em last night :)

Once I figure out how to tweak there position just a tad so they look mounted all proper, I'll post the code for it here

Edited October 2, 2016 by Hook47

Mt5_Roie · October 2, 2016

While I won't get to test this until tonight. It would be nice if we had a JSGME version of this.

Hook47 · October 2, 2016

While I won't get to test this until tonight. It would be nice if we had a JSGME version of this.

I will toss together a JSGME version of both my sort of plausible Hellfire mod as well as a separate dump of weapons to try for fun per what Hawkeye is working on, unless Hawkeye would prefer to do that himself! No intention to steal your thunder, Hawkeye :)

On my end I'm focusing on making a Hellfire mod with 2 missile and 4 missile racks mountable to the outside pylons only, and repositioned properly. As soon as I get home tonight I'll put that JGSME together and post!

Hawkeye60 · October 2, 2016

While I won't get to test this until tonight. It would be nice if we had a JSGME version of this.

A mod that works is OK. I would not want someone to download a mod and have it not work.

I will toss together a JSGME version of both my sort of plausible Hellfire mod as well as a separate dump of weapons to try for fun per what Hawkeye is working on, unless Hawkeye would prefer to do that himself! No intention to steal your thunder, Hawkeye

Please, lets make this a group effort!

I do not mind sharing the blame, and glory!

After all Ramsey, YOU started this! I think all should get credit.

I think a dump mod should be kept private until we know it all works.

The main list does not include a few weapons I posted earlier because they prevented the Gazelle's from showing up at all.

Took a little time to sort though them. All on the list will mount on the pylons. Most need to be tested.

I can not test all of these because I'm finishing my home made collective.

Will post pics soon.

If you have a working JSGME mod, do post it. As well as any issues ie: guns not working, etc.

When we get enough weapons that work, we can release a larger mod.

Let me know your findings and I will update first post.

I will also include links to any mods we make.

That way there is a single source for all.

Thanks guys.

This is WAY to much fun!!!!!

Keeps feeding my addiction!:thumbup:

Hook47 · October 2, 2016

Awesome Hawkeye! I've had a bit of a brain storm of making an actual variant of this, based on the fictional adoption of the airframe by the U.S. Army, and I'm rather excited about it :)

I'll send a PM to you

Mt5_Roie · October 2, 2016

Some weapons seem to work better then others in terms of actually guiding to target. Hellfires seem to miss quite often. But vickers and TOW4 seem to work great. I'll keep testing and see if I can find the most lethal combo. Then I'll work on a JSMGE package.

Also weight is a big factor. loading the helictoper up with too much weight makes her harder to fly.

Hawkeye60 · October 3, 2016

Also weight is a big factor. loading the helictoper up with too much weight makes her harder to fly.

This is very true.

While testing I overloaded her and and got into trouble!:D

Those large missiles must weigh a lot.

In sets of 4!

Some weapons seem to work better then others in terms of actually guiding to target. Hellfires seem to miss quite often. But vickers and TOW4 seem to work great. I'll keep testing and see if I can find the most lethal combo. Then I'll work on a JSMGE package.

This info is perfect. Sounds great.

So Poly, Can we put your name on these mods officially?

Just thinking ahead to the mod forum posting.

Thanks guys. I'm starting to giggle more and more.:D

Need to fly Gazelle more....................

Hawkeye60 · October 3, 2016

Mavericks anyone?

bottom of list updated.

Mt5_Roie · October 3, 2016

So me and Ramsey tested a lot of weapons systems last night and found out a couple things:

Hellfire's look awesome, but are not very accurate over 2000m. The theory is that because the motor burns out half way through it's flight, it loses the ability to stay on target. Also the smoke from the hellfire clouds up the TV quite a bit making it hard to track if target is moving.

Vickers and TOW4 worked the best and could be fired from the maximum range the Gazelle would allow (4300 m). Weight was still an issue so keeping it only on the pylon 1 and 2 seemed to help.

Rockets worked great on the L version. Just need to fine tune the positioning.

Air to Air we tested Aim-9x, R-73, Magic II, and R-60 (I might be forgetting one...but I'm sure Ramsey will remind me). Either way - they all worked great.

Will try to download the pictures from my pit machine and upload sometime this week.

Hawkeye60 · October 3, 2016

Either way - they all worked great.

Great news,

Thanks for having fun!

Mt5_Roie · October 4, 2016

Great news,

Thanks for having fun!

Well every now and the you have to have a little fun.

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Mt5_Roie · October 4, 2016

Lots of pictures from testing in the last couple day:

http://imgur.com/a/PF1Hx

Hawkeye60 · October 4, 2016

Nice shots!

(meant both ways!)

You are giving me goosebumps with these.:D

Hook47 · October 5, 2016

Hey guys,

We are still working on the mod- Poly_Roie has been awesome to work with and I really appreciate him imparting wisdom! He and I hope to have something we can push out soon- just testing and modding weapons :)

Here are a couple more screens with liveries I plan on including in the package :) As you guys can see as of these screen shots we have custom re-positioned each store so that it fits correctly and looks good (no clipping) without interfering with the positions or use of the original HOT3s! The two birds show here have Hellfires & HYDRA Smoke rockets for marking targets in a AFAC role!

First the fictional Army OH-16 Arapaho (If the U.S. Army had adopted the Gazelle like it has the UH-72 Lakota by Airbus

image upload no limit

Second the fictional Defense Services Security Contractors Gazelle (Think Blackwater)

image hosting over 5mb

Credit to SkyKnight over at BKS for some of the skin elements and work on the Air Cav skin!

Edited October 5, 2016 by Hook47

gospadin · October 5, 2016

How does the gazelle behave when loaded beyond MTOW like this?

8x AGM-114 missiles weigh about 400kg (50kg/ea), versus 4x HOT which weigh about 100kg.

The 7x FFAR pods weigh about 40kg/ea empty, plus another 114kg (8kg x 14) for the rockets.

Schmidtfire · October 5, 2016

That looks really cool! What about the digital ammo-counter in cockpit, does it display the right amount of rockets etc?

Mt5_Roie · October 5, 2016

That looks really cool! What about the digital ammo-counter in cockpit, does it display the right amount of rockets etc?

Yes. Yes it does.

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Mt5_Roie · October 5, 2016

How does the gazelle behave when loaded beyond MTOW like this?

8x AGM-114 missiles weigh about 400kg (50kg/ea), versus 4x HOT which weigh about 100kg.

The 7x FFAR pods weigh about 40kg/ea empty, plus another 114kg (8kg x 14) for the rockets.

She's heavy and bit harder to fly. Typically about 110% weight. But if you handle her right and off load those missiles quickly the your good.

16 hellfires look awesome mounted, but you ain't getting off the ground.

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