Grass airport frequencies

[kobac]

I want to make a mission for the A-10C on the Crimea. I set two grassy Airport Kerch and Oktjabarskoe. I can't seem to set the frequency for them. They can be set only callsigns.

When I enter frequency, after checking this field is blank.

 

Is there some kind of further adjustments?

Edited July 27, 2016 by kobac

[nomdeplume]

I think probably just not fully implemented yet. Do they actually do anything useful in-game?

 

The changelogs don't mention anything about it so they might not have even been "intentionally" made available in our public builds. Only official mention I've seen of them is in relation to the WW2 theatre.

[NeilWillis]

Correct, the grass runway feature is incomplete at the moment.

[kobac]

Eeh, that's pity. It will be a good thing if they do something if grass ap looks like a FARP, a little elevated from the ground so that we can land on that surface. Then in that case we could revive that part of the territory (Crimea), for training, naval operations etc. and it would be good for FPS because there are no cities. :smartass:

[kobac]

Due to the naked eye, grassy airport can't see to land on him, I had to resort to trickery. :smilewink:

 

 

[ViFF]

interesting!

 

what type of surface is simulated for the area that you have outlined as the runway?

 

what are the dimensions?

 

cheers!

[kobac]

You've got it all in mission editor (see pic. in the 1.st post). In the particular case: grass, 3km.

[flo57100]

Maybe this grass runway will enable helicopters to re-arm and re-fuel on REAL FARPS, meaning 3-4 tents near a forest, 3-4 trucks and that's it, no platforms with this big H painted on them ;)

[MasterZelgadis]

Would be nice, also for Su-25, which, iirc, is able to land on (and most importantly take off again from) grass airfields

Maybe ED should import some of the objects currently only usable by mods, as I am not a big fan of mods in DCS, at least not the mods you have to install to run a certain mission..

[kobac]

You can even now land on the grass airfield. Last night I landed on it with the A-10C. The only thing you have no radio contact with ATC, however I'm right next to grassy airport placed a FARP and he gave me instructions to land without problems. The only thing I haven't tried rearming, refuel and repair. I'll try it tonight. I placed all the necessary vehicles.

[Shahdoh]

Do you have any info on its dimensions? does the placement direction matter at all?

[kobac]

I have no other information about the dimensions of a grassy airport, except the length of which is seen in ME, I do not have a way to check. I have set outline in accordance with the length and RWY direction. The width I set arbitrarily, probably too much. So far I haven't had a problem with the landing. It is a pity we can't make a template from structure objects.

Do you want to attach this mission?

[Shahdoh]

Just curious, I will more then likely wait until DCS finishes the object. Thanks

[kobac]

NP :)

[Ripcord]

I noticed these the other day and I wondered what they were. I thought they might be something new to be used with helicopters, but now I suspect they are probably going to be related to WWII era combat.

[SNAFU]

You can even now land on the grass airfield. Last night I landed on it with the A-10C. The only thing you have no radio contact with ATC, however I'm right next to grassy airport placed a FARP and he gave me instructions to land without problems. The only thing I haven't tried rearming, refuel and repair. I'll try it tonight. I placed all the necessary vehicles.

 

Hi kobac,

 

Is it possible to use the grass airstrip as FARP replacement and to rearm and refuel on it, if the necessary vehicles are close?

[Pikey]

The grass airport has lua code currently commented (--) out so it is not functional. It has no model, and I doubt it will before an engine overhaul due to the way objects interact with flat surfaces in the current game. Don't bother using it, it's going to add precisely nothing to the game. There's also other hidden things like the "Single Farp" that is commented out. Finally, only the Farp model has requirements for rearm, refuel, repair. Radio, is a different part of code and i'm unsure on it.

 

I spent many hours puzzling through this on the previous version and remodelled the current farp to be a small plate you can use for aircraft. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2983482&postcount=12 Along with the aircraft starting anywhere hack, this makes for a use, since to activate a farps services you need to be touching the collision model. The entire thing is fraught, and prior to a terrain overhaul there is little hope that grass airfields will appear as a single object. If you want proof of this, simply create a 2km model with no height and watch it float over the terrain.

 

Since grass airfields add little but their services, I don't see a point in them over having a "servicing area", you can simply mark out a landing field with other smaller objects, a light mod, some tents etc for WW2.

[SNAFU]

Thank you Pikey,

 

I am just looking for a way to rearm and refuel helicopters without the FARP object.

[Pikey]

There is no way without touching a farp object or being in an airbase perimiter or ship. Of course you can change the object to be nothing more than a patch on the ground, which I did.

 

I hope that this wont be too long before temporary airfields hit, I suspect they at least have it in Normandy and that has to be close, right?

Thank you Pikey,

 

I am just looking for a way to rearm and refuel helicopters without the FARP object.

[kubanloewe]

BUMP !!!

Normandie is out and it sucks with all these to large (more big as many towns LOL) and bad modelled airfields which in fact were under camo as good as the Luftwaffe could hide them against the Allies.

So i placed some grassairfields with shorter runways in some paces but still NO chance to activate them except of placing a FARP beside but you still have no Frequency , no rearm , refuel,repair unless your wheels are touching the FARB. But that´s a hard task with a Prop plane without getting damaged.

WHY on earth they did not implement nice and proper grassrunways on Normandie ???? ANy ideas to get that fixed for proper use ???

[Grimes]

Still not fully implemented. No ETA for it.