TheHighwayman Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I'm having trouble keeping off the grass on the narrow taxiways out of bunkers in 1.5. I generally manage, but now and then I over or under correct. This is embarrassing, and is a problem with proficiency, but it's exacerbated by the fact the grass is also some kind of quicksand. It's most pronounced when the nosewheel enters the grass. Just touching it makes the plane come to a stop and it will not move no matter what. It's terribly unrealistic. I'm experiencing the problem in the MiG 21. Anyone else noticing the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 +1 RightAlt+J turn ON AI, next time turn OFF AI; but unreliable, and fuel hungry GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 That's just how ground modelling has been working in DCS for years. Anything from warbirds up to F-86 can taxi on grass (though F-86 will require high thrust to do so), anything heavier gets stuck in it for good. Just practice not getting off the taxiway ;). Taxi slower, always think and act ahead, remembering that planes react to brakes/rudder/steering inputs with certain delay and after a while You'll be good at it. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 5, 2016 ED Team Share Posted October 5, 2016 if you reduce the weight of your aircraft you can taxi on grass sometimes. Done it many times in the A-10C removed stores and fuel and taxied back on to the tarmac. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) if you reduce the weight of your aircraft you can taxi on grass sometimes. Done it many times in the A-10C removed stores and fuel and taxied back on to the tarmac. It's usually the Nose Gear that gets stuck, Flip off the Gun Safety, Burst the Cannon, lift nose wheel and Throttle up. lol.. j/k, dont do that in real life. :pilotfly: It really depends on the gear setup.. specifically nose gear and weight / CoG Position. ie: F-16 CoG Around Center, Weak, Small, Typical Airforce Nose Gear. Hits the Dirt, Nose Gear sinks, Collapses, plane decides to re-do Landscape: Later that Day, FJ-4, Naval, CoG Shifted to Main Gear, goes through the wet grass easily, though there was another angle that showed the nose wheel did dig into the ground some at first... but the gear did not collapse and the jet continued on rolling, right past the F-16 with it's face in the mud. Edited October 5, 2016 by SkateZilla 1 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 The behaviour of grass is mostly unpredictable in 1.5.4 Even without weapons and minimal fuel. I wait for operational grass airfields. ((And also for highway strips.)) GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 After landing we cannot able to change payload (mostly). GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 After landing we cannot able to change payload (mostly). Technically, you can taxi to the weapon station, use the pop up re-arm menu, remove weapons and a majority of the fuel, then resume taxi to parking. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Ok, i not tested rearm window after a not succesful landing ending on grass, and stucked in. Grassy adventure can end with damage after repair: https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=149344&d=1475612416 GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mop- Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 No Problem... just turn "ground safe" off and pull the red trigger for reverse gear... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Rather than the reverse gear TOWING is a good solution. Please include towing to the ground crew menu.rearm_on_grass_is_not_succesful_when_su27_stuck_in.trk Edited October 6, 2016 by discwalker gear GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurbY Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 if you reduce the weight of your aircraft you can taxi on grass sometimes. Done it many times in the A-10C removed stores and fuel and taxied back on to the tarmac. Scott, how do you remove the fuel? IIRC, the A10-C has no fuel-dump system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 6, 2016 ED Team Share Posted October 6, 2016 Scott, how do you remove the fuel? IIRC, the A10-C has no fuel-dump system? using the rearm window you can ask for a rearm, you can then remove your stores and fuel to suit your needs. Of course you need to be at a friendly airfield :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) BIGNEWY: my previous attached track demonstrates what you said but failed, rearm was done, then without weapons and an almost empty tank the only possible ending is a flameout in the grass, plane leaved stuck in (Repair lift up the plane, but this plane is not damaged.) ((I forget to retract landing gear to try to damage the plane.)) towing is a solution OR the magic "to takeoff position" like key that working on the Admiral Kuznetsov's deck :-) https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=149409&d=1475699298 -> the act not led to success, the file name is not enough precise The track replay obviously need time compression. Airbase grass: Krymsk. Edited October 6, 2016 by discwalker more info + more precision + language GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 6, 2016 ED Team Share Posted October 6, 2016 if you reduce the weight of your aircraft you can taxi on grass sometimes. Done it many times in the A-10C removed stores and fuel and taxied back on to the tarmac. BIGNEWY: my previous attached track demonstrates what you said but failed, rearm was done, then without weapons and almost empty tank ended with flameout in grass, plane leaved stuck in https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=149409&d=1475699298 -> the act not led to success, the file name is not enough precise The track obviously need time compression. Airbase grass: Krymsk. I did say sometimes :) , it depends on weight, so say 2% fuel no gun ammo the SU-27 even when empty is 38905lbs, the A-10C empty is 25190lbs if you get the SU-27 stuck you will not be going anywhere, I have taxied on grass with the A-10c after dropping the weight. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 BIGNEWY: Sorry, I edited several times my previous post, the essence is: Could we get a solution from coders to any type plane with any empty mass in a stuck in scenario? GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 6, 2016 ED Team Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) I will ask, it would be nice to have a tow off the grass :) Edited October 6, 2016 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 IRL, if you taxi onto the grass and get stuck at mission start, even if you towed out or managed to get yourself loose, You would not be flying said mission afterwards. The plane would be towed back to parking and need to be inspected. in which case, LShift+R and start over. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 6, 2016 ED Team Share Posted October 6, 2016 yes there is no "my bad" and carry on, son your ego is writing cheques your body can not cash :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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