VAD charts departure

[supanova]

I'm planning a departure from Kobuleti, using runway 7. I understand the course will be 64 degrees. I also understand the TACAN channel is 67X. The departure route from runway 7 leads to the CRP near Dziridzhumati.

 

I recognise the radial of 43 degrees from the TACAN to the CRP. The departure route has a course of 39 degrees.

 

I'm unfamiliar with this chart format, and I'm not sure how to apply the information. How do I go about flying this departure?

 

Apologies if this is explained elsewhere, but I have tried every search technique I can think of to learn how to interpret these charts.

[Nu-NRG]

Do you have a picture of the chart?

[Ramsay]

I made some notes on the Senaki-Kolhki chart when someone asked a similar question, perhaps they'll help with Kobuleti.

 

As these are 'suggested' VISUAL APPROACH and DEPARTURE diagrams, AFAIK you should fly using visual clues and landmarks and only use the TACAN distance/bearing as a check that you are where you are supposed to be (in reality you'd be in constant contact with ATC).

 

The blue lines are the approach ground path and the dashed red lines, the departure ground path to/from the entry/exit points of the controlled airspace.

 

 

NOTE: AFAIK the VADs supplied with DCS don't match any real aviation charts for Georgia/Russia. I use a combination of real instrument charts for Georgia/Russia, FAA charts and cockpit pictures i.e. turn to base leg when wing tip is level with threshold, etc. to create my own patterns, etc. In reality, I imagine ATC would be setting spacing, directions, diverts, etc.

Edited November 24, 2016 by Ramsay

[supanova]

Thanks for your help.

 

I use a combination of real instrument charts for Georgia/Russia, FAA charts and cockpit pictures i.e. turn to base leg when wing tip is level with threshold, etc. to create my own patterns, etc.

 

Do you have a source for those charts? Particularly Kobuleti? I have searched for them but so far haven't found anything.

[Yurgon]

These charts come with DCS (and/or some of the DCS modules like the A-10C).

 

Look at the "Doc" folder in your DCS installation directory, default location:

 

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Doc\Charts\DCS_VAD_Charts_A10C.pdf :thumbup:

[supanova]

I mean the real world charts, not these. I'd like IFR charts, too.

[docWilly]

Maybe you are interested in these meanwhile

 

http://http://www.virtual-jabog32.de/index.php?section=downloads&subcat=37&file=1236

[Ramsay]

I mean the real world charts, not these. I'd like IFR charts, too.

 

There's a old thread on IFR & VFR Real Charts for DCS

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=100800

 

AFAIK there's no info on military airbases other than their names, locations and what is derived from looking at Google Earth images, etc.

 

For civilian airfields:

 

For Russia, there is the Russian Federation AIP site

http://www.caiga.ru/common/AirInter/validaip/html/eng.htm

 

 

Georgia info is little harder to find

 

UGTB TBILISI/Tbilisi (UG-AD-2.UGTB-en-GB.pdf)

http://www.aopa.org.il/userfiles/files/AIP/cd/2010-06-03-AIRAC/html/UG-AD-2.UGTB-en-GB.html

 

UGKO KUTAISI/KOPITNARI (UG-AD-2.UGKO-en-GB.pdf)

http://www.aopa.org.il/userfiles/files/AIP/cd/2010-06-03-AIRAC/html/UG-AD-2.UGKO-en-GB.html

 

UGSB BATUMI (UG-AD-2.UGSB-en-GB.pdf)

http://www.aopa.org.il/userfiles/files/AIP/cd/2010-06-03-AIRAC/html/UG-AD-2.UGSB-en-GB.html

 

There's handful of copyrighted Jeppesen charts on the internet but other than documenting some navigation/beacon changes, they aren't really necessary (and can't be linked to for obvious reasons).

 

Other resources I use include

 

SkyVector

https://skyvector.com/?ll=43.9050168011429,40.10668946691874&chart=301&zoom=9

 

FAA publications for general aviation and USA approach plates, etc. US AB and relevant Aircraft Flight Manuals for recommended/realistic patterns, etc.

 

You *might* want to look at the free Garmin 400W/500W Series Trainer - WAAS which includes Batumi, so can simulate approach, departure, etc. but Batumi is fairly straight forward.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/aviation/discontinued/gns-530w/prod8052_010-00416-01.html

 

Note: There are differences between DCS and the real - some approaches/beacons have changed over the years and DCS True North, Lat/Long and Mag declination do not match the real due to how DCS simulates/projects map and aircraft data.

Edited November 25, 2016 by Ramsay

[supanova]

I found those aopa charts earlier. That seems to be about as good as it will get.

 

As far as I'm aware the old thread on charts only has Bautami now.

 

With regard to the included VAD charts, I suppose with Kobuleti you'd takeoff and climb on the runway heading, and head towards Dziridzhumati, using the 043 TACAN radial as a backup reference. Once there you could treat the CRP as a "resume own navigation" point.