Viggen in air to air situations.

[mrsteel]

So, i am not too familiar with this aircraft, and from what i've seen it will mostly be like a more advanced f5 in the fact that it carries mainly air to surface weaponry. Now, i realize there are people with much more knowledge of this plane, and i am wondering, does the AJS carry any medium range air to air missiles? Or just Swedish versions of the aim9?

[Kelevra9987]

AFAIK the AJS-37 only have the Sidewinder. The fighter variant of it, the JA-37 would have SARH Missiles.

[il_corleone]

Well, the main role of the aircaft is ground strike but if there are not interceptors availible, they could send an AJS37 with 6 sidewinders, using his radar alongside the GCI to intercept the bandits (Bombers or helicopters)

In the case you are chased, you can always run away but you can also defend yourself with more chances of survival than in a F5, using the massive speed but as always, is not recommended.

 

Anyawy, if you can bring down an F15 with a 21, you can always take down a Su-27 with a Viggen no probs if you stay hidden but thats not your role.

[WinterH]

AJS37 is the strike version, can carry 6 Sidewinder equivalents. It's radar has a relatively rudimentary air to air mode. However, it is a good low level supersonic strike aircraft, and a good anti ship strike aircraft. It's radar has ground mapping capability, as well as ability to spot large targets like ships and buildings etc. So it is both very different, and much more than F-5.

 

JA37 is the interceptor variant, and depending on version may even carry AIM-120, but it is not the type the module will depict.

[QuiGon]

So, i am not too familiar with this aircraft, and from what i've seen it will mostly be like a more advanced f5 in the fact that it carries mainly air to surface weaponry. Now, i realize there are people with much more knowledge of this plane, and i am wondering, does the AJS carry any medium range air to air missiles? Or just Swedish versions of the aim9?

 

It's really not a more advanced F-5. They are completly different aircraft, with the F-5 beeing a fighter and the Viggen beeing a striker. We don't have a fast strike aircraft in DCS yet, so it will be something completly new for us.

 

AFAIK the AJS-37 only have the Sidewinder. The fighter variant of it, the JA-37 would have SARH Missiles.

Not just SARH (Skyflash - a british AIM-7+), but also ARH (AIM-120) ;)

[QuiGon]

Well, the main role of the aircaft is ground strike but if there are not interceptors availible, they could send an AJS37 with 6 sidewinders, using his radar alongside the GCI to intercept the bandits (Bombers or helicopters)

In the case you are chased, you can always run away but you can also defend yourself with more chances of survival than in a F5, using the massive speed but as always, is not recommended.

 

Anyawy, if you can bring down an F15 with a 21, you can always take down a Su-27 with a Viggen no probs if you stay hidden but thats not your role.

 

AJS37 is the strike version, can carry 6 Sidewinder equivalents. It's radar has a relatively rudimentary air to air mode. However, it is a good low level supersonic strike aircraft, and a good anti ship strike aircraft. It's radar has ground mapping capability, as well as ability to spot large targets like ships and buildings etc. So it is both very different, and much more than F-5.

 

JA37 is the interceptor variant, and depending on version may even carry AIM-120, but it is not the type the module will depict.

 

6? Are you guys sure? I thought only 2 pylons are usable for Sidewinders.

[renhanxue]

On the AJ, yes, only two. On the AJS all six pylons (other than the centerline) are Sidewinder capable.

[mattebubben]

6? Are you guys sure? I thought only 2 pylons are usable for Sidewinders.

 

on the AJS there are 2 pylons that are Aim-9 only.

 

But the other 4 weapons pylons can also carry the Aim-9s.

[il_corleone]

wingtips are only for aim-9, but as mattebubben said, you can also carry them on the "AG" pylons, 2 per wing.

[drPhibes]

From the manual:

 

The plane can carry:

* 2x RB24J on hardpoint R7

and

* 4 RB24/24J on hardpoint S7 and V7

or

* 4 RB24J/74 on hardpoint S7 and V7

[QuiGon]

on the AJS there are 2 pylons that are Aim-9 only.

 

But the other 4 weapons pylons can also carry the Aim-9s.

 

Ah, right, that's what it was :music_whistling:

[BravoYankee4]

Well, you can shoot down aircrafts with the Rb 05 (AG) missile as well - not saying it will be easy, but doable :)

[QuiGon]

Well, you can shoot down aircrafts with the Rb 05 (AG) missile as well - not saying it will be easy, but doable :)

 

I guess it will be easier to use Mavericks instead (A-10 proven) :D

[Custard]

 

This might be interesting to some here.

[mattebubben]

as for the RB 05 and Air-Air that would only really be used against transports and helicopters but mainly Helicopters and especially if they were flying low.

 

And for that they should be "ok" enough if there is no better suited weapon loaded.

 

I dont think the idea was to Load with RB 05s and go hunting for Helicopters and Transports but rather if you have them loaded and you come across enemy helicopters or transports flying low and slow

then it could be used against them with a decent chance of hitting the target (or Damaging it with a near miss if they were flying low).

 

But the Gunpods or Air-Air missiles were by far the preferred weapon for Air-Air.

 

But in general the RB 05A was a very versatile weapon that could be used against targets on the Land the Sea or in the Air

(Though the first 2 where the more effective areas).

 

And as for the suggestion to use the AGM 65s instead i think it would be very hard to try to get a weapons lock on a aircraft with a AGM-65A while flying when you dont have a targeting pod like the A-10C does

(id think it would be hard getting a lock with Any AGM 65 variant without the targeting pod to lock the target with) and against a slow target that could not do fast evasive maneuvers the RB 05A might actually have been viable,

At least against helicopters and especially against larger transport helicopters (like the Mi-6 and Mi-26) and it would be likely that Helicopters

(and especially the large transport helicopters) could play a significant role in supplying and reinforcing a bridgehead in the initial stage.

 

And Mi-6 and Mi-26 should not have been to difficult targets for an experienced pilot even if using RB 05As

(Since they are very Large and not that nimble)

Edited November 30, 2016 by mattebubben